Charging a PHEV via the caravan?

Misshwv
Misshwv Forum Participant Posts: 3
edited July 2016 in Towcars & Towing #1

Hi there

I'm due to visit a Caravan Club site for a weeks holiday driving my Outlander PHEV. The question is, would it be safe to use the 3 pin domestic household charger plugged into the caravan over night to recharge the car? I understand the car draws 10amps during
charging. I will of course check at reception when I arrive to seek permission, but I'm curious as the people's opinion on the matter.

Many thanks.

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  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2016 #2

    There is another thread about this already being discussed.  I said there that I think it ranks alongside taking toilet rolls and soap from the toilets.

  • Misshwv
    Misshwv Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited July 2016 #3

    Ah I did look but couldn't find anything. Looking for practicalities though, rather than ethics tbh.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2016 #4

    There is another thread about this already being discussed.  I said there that I think it ranks alongside taking toilet rolls and soap from the toilets.

    Write your comments here...is that worse or better tban  3 bar electric fire on in your awning? Undecided

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2016 #5

    Probably worse. The toilet roll takers at least, I presume, actually use the rolls later.

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited July 2016 #6

    There is another thread about this already being discussed.  I said there that I think it ranks alongside taking toilet rolls and soap from the toilets.

    Write your comments here...is that worse or better tban  3 bar electric fire on in your awning? Undecided

    Even the awning heater brigade are unlikely to be drawing the juice for such a prolonged period. 

    Whilsr the odd electric vehicle may have little impact, if they proliferate, it will add significantly to CC overheads and consequently to costs for the rest of us.

  • Metheven
    Metheven Club Member Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭
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    edited July 2016 #7

    Probably safe but morally wrong

  • scoutman
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    edited July 2016 #8

    Controversial, I know, but maybe I could ask the warden if I can have some diesel from his tractor, after all I've paid for it in my site fees

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2016 #9

    There is another thread about this already being discussed.  I said there that I think it ranks alongside taking toilet rolls and soap from the toilets.

    Write your comments here...is that worse or better tban  3 bar electric fire on in your awning? Undecided

    Even the awning heater brigade are unlikely to be drawing the juice for such a prolonged period. 

    Whilsr the odd electric vehicle may have little impact, if they proliferate, it will add significantly to CC overheads and consequently to costs for the rest of us.

    ..Different vehicle .... but they reckoned a Vx Ampera was about £1 to charge it

     

  • birderbilly
    birderbilly Forum Participant Posts: 349
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    edited July 2016 #10

    The PHEV has a 9.8kw/h battery.  As has been said on other threads the CC needs to get on top of this issue.

  • Alex Cassells
    Alex Cassells Forum Participant Posts: 159
    edited July 2016 #11

    Hi Misshwv , to answer your question, yes you can. With at least a10amp supply you should be OK. I have contemplated doing the same , provably through the night, with all other appliances off.

    The CC have said that we are not allowed to, but other members have asked wardens on-site and they have been fine with it.

    Non CC sites may allow it too, I suppose.

    Cheers, Alex.

  • EJB986
    EJB986 Forum Participant Posts: 1,153
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    edited July 2016 #12

    Unless there is a specific CC rule stating that you can't....then you can!

    As long as common sense is applied and you are aware of the amount of current drawn just do it!

    Can't imagine why you even askSurprised

  • tigerfish
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    edited July 2016 #13

    Misshwv,

    Really sorry to thread drift a little but there are not that many PHV owners to ask questions of.

    I fully accept that I am one of the last of the Dinosaures, as I just love big diesels, But I am not closed to the concept of the new technology and was interested in the PHV myself. But i was put off by reports that it was not suitable for towing heavy
    vans over long distances.

    Clearly the technology is new and will improve quickly. But how are you finding it?  Was I wrong to be put off?

    TF

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2016 #14

    Knew you'd be back Brian Wink

  • tigerfish
    tigerfish Forum Participant Posts: 1,362
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    edited July 2016 #15

    Only by accident!  I'd given up on CT.

    No one told me it was back!

    Brian

    (TF)

  • DORMAN12Q
    DORMAN12Q Forum Participant Posts: 90
    edited July 2016 #16

    Couldn't you get a generator to charge your car ? 

    Or maybe one of those solar panels and an inverter whilst it is parked?

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited July 2016 #17

    Generator, solar panel......UndecidedI cant decide whether to laugh or cry......

  • TonyIshUK
    TonyIshUK Forum Participant Posts: 296
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    edited July 2016 #18

    Bit of a problem touring on the continent , where campsites are running 5 to 8 amp supplies ?

     Rgds 

  • Clare Moreton
    Clare Moreton Forum Participant Posts: 11
    edited July 2016 #19

    I drive an Outlander PHEV and have charged on a CC site (Alex above referred to my post).  The wardens were more than happy to allow me to charge - I would suggest you ask though rather than assume that you can.  I don't think it takes the mick really - I charge my car each night and it costs 44p.  Surely the club will have negotiated a good bulk discount rate? 

    With regards towing with the PHEV I am more than pleased - I pull a Pegasus GT65 Rimini so its close to the maximum weight limit, and it pulled like a dream.  No issues at all - in fact much easier than my previous CRV.  I would say perhaps tigerfish you were a little too reticent.  I have a 30 mile commute each way and use only a dribble of petrol on the way home (can charge at work).  On a long journey from North Devon to North Somerset at the weekend my average for the trip was 70mpg.  The overall average for the last tank worked out at 132mpg for 880miles (with 2 long trips at weekends on petrol) - so all in all I am very pleased.  Towing mpg went down to 25/26mpg which was comparable to the diesel CRV.

  • SELL
    SELL Forum Participant Posts: 398
    edited July 2016 #20

    I drive past a Mitsubishi garage each day on my to/from work and tonight there was a line of 8 PHEV all for sale with plates 64 and 15, makes you wonder why so many on sale

  • Stevesie
    Stevesie Forum Participant Posts: 73
    edited July 2016 #21

    I drive past a Mitsubishi garage each day on my to/from work and tonight there was a line of 8 PHEV all for sale with plates 64 and 15, makes you wonder why so many on sale

    Write your comments here...Ex contract hire cars.  Most phevs are company cars (tax advantage for user) so seem to be going out on contract.  The 15 plates will probably be pre-reg stock that got superseded by the face lift last October.

  • Randomcamper
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    edited July 2016 #22

    Ah I did look but couldn't find anything. Looking for practicalities though, rather than ethics tbh.

     

    Missed this till now sorry...........

    I'm sure the Club will be thinking hard about the issues....

    http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/community/discussions/club-talk/club-products-services/Charging-of-Electric-Vehicles-on-Site/rt/1513961/

  • Misshwv
    Misshwv Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited July 2016 #23

    Well thank you to the few that actually answered my question, much appreciated! In the end I bought an adaptor for the electric hook up so I could plug the car directly into it. When I arrived on site I asked if it would be ok to charge my car overnight
    and told them how many amps it would require and that I was more than happy to pay the approximate  £1 it costs to fully charge the battery. However they were quite happy for me to plug in free of charge so happy days! It's saved me from doing approximately
    42mpg without the battery to about 90mpg with it.

     

    Tiger fish: I don't tow I'm afraid, my parents have a touring caravan and I use it once a year for a cheap holiday. That said I'm extremely happy with the car (even though I get a lot of grief from random men when plugged into a charging point!). I work
    as a District Nurse in my local town and as such do a lot of short/stop start driving which massively impacts mpg. At present with the long hours of daylight and warmer temperatures I'm doing the 20-30 miles at work on battery alone, in the winter the results
    are a lot poorer but this has been reflected with all the cars I've driven in the job. The car will be 1 year old mid September and it's looking likely to be averaging 70mpg, which I'm happy with. My green line skoda yeti averaged out at 47mpg over the 3 years
    I had it.

     

    Towing wise I would be happy to tow with it, but I'd not be comfortable too close to the 85% ratio as I think it may struggle on steep gradients. For me the car is the perfect mix of good town mpg and a large 4x4 for the light off roading in I do in the
    winter.

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