2015 Ford Mondeo TDCI Zetec Econotec problem
2015 Ford Mondeo Zetec Econotec diesel, manual with 11000 miles. .3 months ago when engine started up, two warning lights on the dashboard did not go out. One told me the ESC needed Servicing, and the other pop up box stated my Parking Brake was on when
it wasn't..If I switch the engine off and retry starting mostly this results in those offending warnings, go out as normal...Car already been into Ford dealership and checked and cannot find anything....The problem doesn't happen more than two/three occasions
a month but the Ford garage say that unless it does it while in there possession they can't help which is not much good to me...Does anybody out there have any idea what the cause is likely to be....Appreciate any technical Ford mechanical technicians help
please.
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I assume ESC is a variation of traction control .... not sure how you'd service it. Assuming it is traction control, have a look at the ABS sensors or the 'reluctor' rings that they 'look' at. Reluctor rings tend to rust, swell & then split which confuses
the ABS/ESC electrickery.Hand/parking brake sounds like a switch somewhere ... coud be simply under the handbrake, or a sticky mechanism somewhere. Sorry I can't be more Ford specific
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Thank-you MollysMummy, it's information I can give to the Ford dealership to see if they will start investigation from there.
The trouble these days that the youngsters plug their diagnotic kit in & unless the computer says 'yes ... it's that', then they're clueless as to how to diagnose the old fashioned way of actually looking, listening etc
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This is essentially a new car, under warranty?
If it's a regular fault then I'd wait until it appears then take it to the garage without switching the engine off or clearing any alerts. Then they should be able to read any fault codes which may give a clue.
They should be able to get some technical advice from Ford (which I would insist on) plus I'd contact Ford Customer Relationship Centre and register a problem if you don't feel you are getting satisfaction.
It's best IMHO (based on similar experience) to work with the senior tech at the dealer and build up a relationship with him (or her?)
We once solved a problem of limp mode and "Fuel Rail Pressure High" fault code by reading the code with a cheap PC based code reader whilst the fault was still on and informing the dealer. It turned out to be a bad batch of fuel filters causing restriction in the fuel flow. So even the fault codes need additional knowledge of the actual fault which may be unrelated to the code.
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Thank-you DougS for your helpful input...I agree about the attitude from some dealers that "if the computor says everything is fine then everything is fine"....years ago an "06" plate Mondeo I had was belching black smoke when driving away from a standstill
and I knew from my limited knowledge, that it was in burnt fuel...Main Ford dealership with their computor said no fault found and I had to laugh at that...As it happened I was in a small town near to where I live and a small family run Ford garage , when
asked, said they knew right away what the problem was...Ford had issued a bulletin to dealerships advising of a problem of a batch of faulty units on the "management control" system and to fit warranty replacement?...I went back to my first dealership and
spoke to the Service Manager and showed him a photocopy of the Ford bulletin notification...He checked his files and had no trace of such....He was rather embarrassed to say the least that a small family dealership knew all about it and they, a Ford main dealership
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Up until recently when I changed to a 2015 model, I had a 2012 Mondeo. Intermittently I would get a 'Battery Low' warning light come on. This started happening when the car was only about 10 months old. I took the car to my local main dealer who confirmed
that the battery was in good condition and the charging rate was as it should be. They couldn't offer any explanation, "it's just one of those things". Over the next two years this warning came on from time to time, usually several times in the course of a
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Up until recently when I changed to a 2015 model, I had a 2012 Mondeo. Intermittently I would get a 'Battery Low' warning light come on. This started happening when the car was only about 10 months old. I took the car to my local main dealer who confirmed
that the battery was in good condition and the charging rate was as it should be. They couldn't offer any explanation, "it's just one of those things". Over the next two years this warning came on from time to time, usually several times in the course of a
few days and then nothing for a few months.We have this same issue with our 2012 Mondeo.
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Ford's own website suggests that if the ESC warning light is on in any of their vehicled then it is to be returned to the dealer as it suggests a fault with traction control and or the ABS braking. All safety items I believe. Video the lamps staying illuminated.
Return to the dealer with a copy of the video. A good technician will find the fault logged in one of the ECU's memory The vehicle is under warranty. It is for them to sort. If the .vehicle has been purchased with credit, use the credit companies might to
nudge this on a stage further possibly even suggesting the vehicle is not fit for purpose if you can't rely on it's safety systems. You can't be too nice in such situations.0 -
Hi asda 160,....the Ford dealership says they must see the car with the fault visible in order to plug into their computor diagnostics , with the fault actually still in progress...On arrival at garage I've to keep engine running and phone into service dept
from the car park and they take it immediately into the workshop with the engine still running and fault still showing.0 -
Hi asda 160,....the Ford dealership says they must see the car with the fault visible in order to plug into their computor diagnostics , with the fault actually still in progress...On arrival at garage I've to keep engine running and phone into service dept
from the car park and they take it immediately into the workshop with the engine still running and fault still showing.I'm surprised at that. Most fault codes will remain stored within the ECU for quite a while.
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Hi asda 160,....the Ford dealership says they must see the car with the fault visible in order to plug into their computor diagnostics , with the fault actually still in progress...On arrival at garage I've to keep engine running and phone into service dept
from the car park and they take it immediately into the workshop with the engine still running and fault still showing.I'm surprised at that. Most fault codes will remain stored within the ECU for quite a while.
I know what you mean but I've definitely had some that clear when the ignition is turned off then on again so best to read them straight away just in case they do clear.
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Hi asda 160,....the Ford dealership says they must see the car with the fault visible in order to plug into their computor diagnostics , with the fault actually still in progress...On arrival at garage I've to keep engine running and phone into service dept
from the car park and they take it immediately into the workshop with the engine still running and fault still showing.I'm surprised at that. Most fault codes will remain stored within the ECU for quite a while.
I know what you mean but I've definitely had some that clear when the ignition is turned off then on again so best to read them straight away just in case they do clear.
The management light might well go off when you turn the ignition off, but the ECU usually remembers. SWMBO's C3 displayed an auto g/box fault, and though the flashing lights went off when the ignition was turned off, the gearbox ECU still remembered them.
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