Manual v Automatic

Scottishlunarman
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edited March 2016 in Towcars & Towing #1

I suffer from a rare Muscle Wasteing Disease and Diabetis, I drive a manual car to tow my caravan, but I am thinking ahead of my illnesses progression, I am wondering if I should change to an Automatic, I was wondering if anyone else has done this and how
they feel about the change.  

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  • Unknown
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  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited March 2016 #3

    The search facility here is worse than useless, but if it worked, you'd find a few threads on auto vs manual. you'll find a few die hards here that 'want to be in control' but 2 pedals are the way forward! Cool Auto
    every time for me, but you need to have a drive of different types ie full torque converter type eg Mercedes or automated manuals eg VW's DSG .... they drive different, the choice is yours. Did I say that auto is best? Kiss

  • Boff
    Boff Forum Participant Posts: 1,742
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    edited March 2016 #4

    Automatic every time it is easier and less fatiguing   

     I hope that those that bang on about control also disable their abs,power steering and brake servo as well to get the true experience of being in control

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited March 2016 #5

    Whilst I know motormovers have taken much of the pushing and shoving out of caravan ownership, perhaps in view of your developing issues it might be worth considering a motorhome.

  • asda160
    asda160 Forum Participant Posts: 87
    edited March 2016 #6

    I've  just gone from manual to a Suzuki Kizashi CVT auto. It has hill assist and I can manually select all 6 gears for control on the downhill bits.

    Will not be going back to manual in a hurry.

    I now get on site feeling relaxed instead of frazzled, Traffic jams are doddle, no left leg ache, hitching up and reversing feels easier.

    For the curve ball life has thrown at you I think an auto would be a good way for you to keep on keeping on caravanning.

    Good luck and keep us updated.

     

     

     

  • Colr
    Colr Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited March 2016 #7

    I'm another great fan of autos, born of many business and leisure trips to USA, renting autos every time. Presently tow with 2.0 TDI Mondeo with 6 speed powershift box. (Same ratios as manual but uses twin concentric plate clutch system electronically operated.)
    Much superior to previous manual in my view - tows like a dream, and reversing is easier without needing left foot clutch control.

    i hope you find a suitable auto and carry on caravanning

  • EmilysDad
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    I've  just gone from manual to a Suzuki Kizashi CVT auto. It has hill assist and I can manually select all 6 gears for control on the downhill bits.

     .....

    If it's a Continuously Variable Transmission, how are there 6 gears to select manually? Undecided

  • asda160
    asda160 Forum Participant Posts: 87
    edited March 2016 #9

    Mollysmummy, excellent question....

    It has a 'manual' position on the lever (which is also selectable from the steering wheel) and it allows you to select and hold 6 of the theoretically infinite ratios. Quite a clever bit of kit but you'd have to drive/witness it to completely grasp it. Subaru & Toyota use it too.

    Hope that helps.

  • EmilysDad
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    Mollysmummy, excellent question....

    It has a 'manual' position on the lever (which is also selectable from the steering wheel) and it allows you to select and hold 6 of the theoretically infinite ratios. Quite a clever bit of kit but you'd have to drive/witness it to completely grasp it. Subaru
    & Toyota use it too.

    Hope that helps.

    I believe Audi do a similar ting then using electrickery. The only CVT car I've driven was a Fiesta (Ford's version of DAF's Variomatic) ... let's just say it was strange to drive. Laughing

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited March 2016 #11

    The Audi CVT box is unreliable, expensive to repair, unloved in the used motor trade and was quietly superseded. Not a good example of German engineering and I am a VAG fan. 

  • bluerocket5
    bluerocket5 Forum Participant Posts: 43
    edited March 2016 #12

    I have just bought hyundai santa fe auto after driving manuals and towing for 4 years now. This is my first autobox and Judging by the comments on here I can look forward to a much more relaxing time whilst towing my van  can't wait for our trip out to cheshire
    over easter to gauge the difference 

  • volvoman9
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    edited March 2016 #13

    Towing or solo its auto for me everytime.Happy

    v9

  • flatcoat
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    edited March 2016 #14

    Apart from the Santa Fe I looked at earlier today every car I have viewed this weekend was an auto of some sort and (shock, horror) I am quite looking forward to driving one. 

  • commeyras
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    Have driven a DSG (VW) for 7 years now.  It's Auto/DSG for me everytime and add cruise control for maximum relaxation.  Will not go back to manual

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #16

    Another vote for automatic!

    Our Volvo automatic lets you select gears (bit like a manual but without a clutch) - I've never used that option as I've never found it necessary.

    There really is no downside.

    (you just need to remember in the early days to leave your left foot on the foot rest. Don't on any account try to use both feet Wink)

  • volvoman9
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    edited March 2016 #17

    Same here we have sequential manual if needed but i,ve never used it.As said there is no downside to auto,s these days.

    peter.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #18

     ...... Don't on any account try to use both feet Wink)

    That takes practice Wink

  • tigerfish
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    edited March 2016 #19

    But remember, Auto's are best on larger engines. Some smaller ones do not have adequate transmission oil cooling so make sure that any car that you do buy can tow reasonably well.  Just ask the dealer. The above is especially valid if you are headed for
    the southern parts of Europe.

    TF

  • Metheven
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    But remember, Auto's are best on larger engines. Some smaller ones do not have adequate transmission oil cooling so make sure that any car that you do buy can tow reasonably well.  Just ask the dealer. The above is especially valid if you are headed for the southern parts of Europe.

    TF

    If only they could be believed, unfortunately dealers will tell you anything for a sale, it really is up to the customer to do his homework.

    Anyway, Auto is the choice here, both for towing and for solo driving. Auto's have come on in leaps and bounds from yester year, with negligible power loss and comparible economy. Manual selection is there if needed and a 'Sport' selection to hold onto gears if solo and in a 'stig' mood.

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2016 #21

    Although I have always insisted, in the past, on a manual - when I switched to a VW Touareg (with the auto, DSG gearbox) - there was no alternative.  Best decision I ever made - ultra smooth - don't know it's changing gear other than for the change in engine
    note plus it can be manually over-ridden for long descents etc.  Very relaxing to drive and a very capable tow-car. I certainly would never go back to a manual again.

  • tigerfish
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    edited March 2016 #22

    Agreed, And for clarity,  I have used Auto's since 2001 on 4 different waggons. I would never go back to manual!

    TF

  • Briang
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    edited March 2016 #23

    Auto's for me Land Cruiser LC4 3.0 TD Auto and the option to go manual if needed ie: going down steep hills.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #24

     .... and the option to go manual if needed ie: going down steep hills.

    That option has always been there, even on older 3 & 4 speed torque converter autos ... you move the transmission from D to 3 or 2 or even 1

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #25

     .... and the option to go manual if needed ie: going down steep hills.

    That option has always been there, even on older 3 & 4 speed torque converter autos ... you move the transmission from D to 3 or 2 or even 1

    Write your comments here...Once again Molly you have educated me .My Lexus has that gearbox,I did not know it was called Torque Converter.I have only ever had to use it once coming out of Lyme Regis stuck behind a bus that was struggling.I am sure I could
    have gone up Everest after dropping down a cog!.

  • EmilysDad
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     .......Once again Molly you have educated me .My Lexus has that gearbox,I did not know it was called Torque Converter.I have only ever had to use it once coming out of Lyme Regis stuck behind a bus that was
    struggling.I am sure I could have gone up Everest after dropping down a cog!.

    Torque converters can also be refered to as fluid flywheels. If you think of a bucket of fluid & stir it hard enough, the bucket will eventually try to turn in the direction that the fluid is turning. That is a very simplified torque converter. DSG and other
    automated manuals are just that, a manual gearbox with clever electrics that press a clutch(es) & change gear for you

  • Briang
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     .... and the option to go manual if needed ie: going down steep hills.

    That option has always been there, even on older 3 & 4 speed torque converter autos ... you move the transmission from D to 3 or 2 or even 1

    I have 5 manual gears on my Land Cruiser LC4. Move the transmission from D and it will go in the gear you are already in. ie: 5th into 5 then touch the gearstick up or down to the gear you want.

  • ADP1963
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     .......Once again Molly you have educated me .My Lexus has that gearbox,I did not know it was called Torque Converter.I have only ever had to use it once coming out of Lyme Regis stuck behind a bus that was
    struggling.I am sure I could have gone up Everest after dropping down a cog!.

    Torque converters can also be refered to as fluid flywheels. If you think of a bucket of fluid & stir it hard enough, the bucket will eventually try to turn in the direction that the fluid is turning. That is a very simplified torque converter. DSG and other
    automated manuals are just that, a manual gearbox with clever electrics that press a clutch(es) & change gear for you

    Write your comments here...Hold on  Molly, you were the Tiff,that is going straight over the top now .My little single cell is on melt down .  Laughing

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #29

    .. Hold on  Molly, you were the Tiff,that is going straight over the top now .My little single cell is on melt down .  Laughing

    Wink

  • PJMEG
    PJMEG Forum Participant Posts: 180
    edited March 2016 #30

    I recently switched from manual to auto and oh boy life is so much easier my Santa fe 2.2 diesel tows my van like its not there, smooth gear changes with ability to switch to manual gear select only uses 4 of the 6 available gears tho handy for steep downhill decents instead of relying on the brakes only, one thing I have found is that the MPG is not quite as good as a manual in my opinion but this is my only small moan, hope this helps.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #31

     ...... Don't on any account try to use both feet Wink)

    That takes practice Wink

    Only just spotted this MM.....Laughing