Torque

Markphil
Markphil Forum Participant Posts: 24
edited March 2016 in Towcars & Towing #1

Would I be correct to think that the higher it is the better the car will pull your van.  When checking the gocaravaning.com website, it gives such examples as "As a towing vehicle it delivers 135 lb/ft of torque"   I can often find that the 85% for a vehicle is good yet the torque aint so great.  

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  • commeyras
    commeyras Club Member Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭
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    edited March 2016 #2

    Hello Markphil.  Basically the higher the torque the better and if it is produced at low revs even better that is why most tow with diesel cars.  The 85% you mention is a guide ratio of caravan to car the more experienced tow up to 100%; but, the weight
    of the caravan must NEVER exceed the max towing weight of the car.  We could get more technical and will if asked!!!

  • ChrisRogers
    ChrisRogers Forum Participant Posts: 435
    edited March 2016 #3

    Higher the better, my 2.0TDi 138bhp VW engine (just to confuse things) is 320nm @ 1,750-2,500rpm, and for my unit pulls very well.

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited March 2016 #4

    Would I be correct to think that the higher it is the better the car will pull your van.   ....  

    As above, yes, and at low engine revs

  • Lutz
    Lutz Forum Participant Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2016 #5

    Actually it's horsepower that shifts the outfit up the hill, not torque, but lots of torque at low revs makes for more relaxed driving as it requires less gear changes. Horsepower is basically torque times revs so if you haven't got the torque you need lots of revs and conversely, if you haven't got the revs, you need lots of torque..

  • GeordieBiker
    GeordieBiker Forum Participant Posts: 45
    edited March 2016 #6

    Good post, Lutz! What makes for even more relaxed towing is a flat torque/speed curve. Even better is a curve where the torque droops slightly at higher revs. This means that if you're towing in the higher rev region and start to slow down on a hill then
    the torque rises as the speed falls so that power stays more nearly constant.

    Diesel engines tend to have this type of torque/speed curve which is what makes them good for towing. Petrol engines, by contrast, tend to have torque/speed curves which peak at, or near, max revs so suffer from both falling speed and torque as the revs
    fall so needing gear changes to maintain both revs and torque and hence power.

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited March 2016 #7

    Petrol engines are simply all talk - diesel engines however talk the torque! 

  • Lutz
    Lutz Forum Participant Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2016 #8

    Petrol engines are simply all talk - diesel engines however talk the torque! 

    I think one does have to qualify that statement a little. Take the BMW 3.0 litre diesel and compare it with its 3.0 litre petrol counterpart, for example, and you will see that although the diesel develops 500Nm of torque as against the 400Nm of the petrol, but that maximum torque is achieved across a much broader band and much earlier on the petrol compared with the diesel.

    Petrol max. torque from 1200 to 5000rpm

    Diesel max. torque from 1750 to 2750rpm

  • commeyras
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    edited March 2016 #9

    Markphil.  Warned it could get technical! 

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited March 2016 #10

     .... and much earlier on the petrol compared with the diesel.

     .....

    Diesel max. torque from 1750 to 2750rpm

    hence the need for umpteen gears in the diseasal to keep it 'on song'

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited March 2016 #11

    My Apologies for trying to introduce some humour into a technical discussion..... Hey ho. 

  • volvoman9
    volvoman9 Forum Participant Posts: 1,053
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    edited March 2016 #12

    My Apologies for trying to introduce some humour into a technical discussion..... Hey ho. 

    If its supposed to be "funny" stick a funny face on it and then people might get the "joke"
    Happy

    peter.

  • Lutz
    Lutz Forum Participant Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2016 #13

    I somehow missed the punch line.