Oh the shame of it

Boff
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edited February 2016 in Towcars & Towing #1

Yesterday on a muddy field I ended up get towed off by a tractor.  Frst time the Landcruiser has let me down.
Embarassed

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  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #2

    Now  if  you  had  a  winch  mounted  at  front  &  rear  you  could  have  uprooted  a  few  trees  and   got  off  the  mud  as  well  Laughing

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #3

    bump

  • Briang
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    edited February 2016 #4

    Did you have road tyres?

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #5

    Was the Caravan attached?.

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2016 #6

    Didn't think it was possible to get one of those things stuck.

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #7

    bump

    Did you have road tyres?

    No

    Was the Caravan attached?.

    Yes

    Didn't think it was possible to get one of those things stuck.

    Its possible for anything to get stuck. 

  • davetommo
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    edited February 2016 #8

    four wheel drive is not magic

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #9

    Surprised  Thats  not  what  the  adverts  sayWink 

  • davetommo
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    edited February 2016 #10

    when do adverts tell the truth

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #11

    The AA supervisor in our road always says that the only difference between chelsea tractors and cars in poor conditions as most are fitted with normal road tyres,that the end result"accident" it is more spectacularSurprised

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #12

    Just for the record mine is fitted with all terrain tyres. It was uin low ratio and centre diff locked.  Still needed a tractor.  

  • Briang
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    edited February 2016 #13

    Just for the record mine is fitted with all terrain tyres. It was uin low ratio and centre diff locked.  Still needed a tractor.  

    Has to be the driver.

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #14

    As I was the driver why do leap to that conclusion?  

    Maybe the conditions were just too bad for the vechicle to cope with?  It was a field not a life threatening situation if it was I am sure I could have escaped but a large tractor seemed the best option. 

  • davetommo
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    edited February 2016 #15

    dont you just love the expert drivers

  • JCB4X4
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    edited February 2016 #16

    In mud it all comes down to ‘Ground Traction’ or the lack of it.

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #17

    In mud it all comes down to ‘Ground Traction’ or the lack of it.

    Absolutely wheels spinning going no where.  The temptation is floor the throttle and dig a hole.  This just wrecks the ground and you still don't go anywhere.   In this case according to the tractor driver  There is a lot of clay just below the surface so nowhere for the rain we had on Saturday to go. Once your tyres are coated in mud they are turned into slicks, no grip no traction no progress. 

  • xtrailman
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    edited February 2016 #18

    Also seen a discovery towed off the Silver stone caravan site by a tractor.

    But i use AWD dailey on wet roads etc, its not just for mud but for added traction in all conditions.

  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #19

    If i was in this situation the "shame" would not be on the towcar but on myself for getting ito that situation in the first place.If i think there is even a hint of this happening i just wont pitch on grass.I know many prefer grass but i,m afraid its not
    for me unless its bone hard dry.

    peter.

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #20

    No hard standing was available, it would have meant either turning round and going home on Friday or making a run for it as soon as it started to rain on Saturday.  

    Getting towed off wasn't a disaster in didn't ruin my weekend.  Nobody died. I am merely making the point it is possible for anyone / anything to get stuck

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2016 #21

    Ooooh! you made a mistake posting this 'Boff', people love to ridicule and criticise
    Happy It happens and like you said, once the small tread depth of the tyres fill with clay/mud there's no way there will be traction.

  • huskydog
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    edited February 2016 #22

    if the conditions aren't right ,it doesn't matter how many driving wheels you have ,you ain't going anywhere .......

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #23

    The  very  fact  that  Boff  posted  this  in  the  way  he  did  shows  he  was  not  stressed  out,  but  was having  a  laugh  at  himself  !!

    I  say  Well  Done for  that  Boff, 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2016 #24

    Perhaps the question we should all be asking is 'what techniques and tricks would you use if no tractor was available?'

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2016 #25
  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #26

    No hard standing was available, it would have meant either turning round and going home on Friday or making a run for it as soon as it started to rain on Saturday.  

    Getting towed off wasn't a disaster in didn't ruin my weekend.  Nobody died. I am merely making the point it is possible for anyone / anything to get stuck

    Fair comment its no slight on yourself people can pitch their van where ever they like for me and as you say its easy too get bogged down on soft ground.What i,m saying is had it happened to me i would have been extremely annoyed with myself.I drive a large 4x4 but i wont take it anywhere near soft ground as i just dont like the mess.

    peter.

  • Tirril
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    edited February 2016 #27

    Deep mud is just about the most difficult surface to drive through so no shame for the Landcruiser or Boff. Just one tip which can help anyone in the same position if your vehicle is fitted with tyres which have tread extending round the edges of the tyre is to gently turn the steering a little left and right whilst accelerating slowly (you don't want lots of wheel spin). You can get a little extra tract from the side walls biting into the mud.

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #28

    Simple Happy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_noiFPBv398

    Interesting.  It strikes me you could achieve the same with ratchet straps off which I always have a couple lying arround the back of the car.  

    I didn't actually tell the whole story. I didn't get stuck once I got stuck twice but in different ways. 

    The first time I attempt to tow off a friends Pagent. Moved off no problem got about 20ft will spin no forward motion.  Was able to reverse and try again same result.  Part of the problem was the centre of the field was higher than the edges not by a huge
    amount but it was slightly up hill the initial direction.   I am sure with enough attempts I would found a line and got off.  But the tractor was the easier, cleaner and most importantly imho less damaging to the ground. 

    Attempting to get my van off which is heavier than a Pagent with a mptlm of 1900kg on a single axle I managed to tow it exactly no feet and no inches. What happened was as soon as I lifted the steadies which were on planks the wheels just sank and obviously
    the force required to extricate them was greater that the available traction.  

    What could I have done differently?  Stayed at home? Booked some featureless hard standing site.  Both practical possibilities just not very attractive ones for me.  As the wheels sank. I would  consider parking on tracks if similar in a similar condition
    To spread the load. Low ratio would I have been better off without it?  All the torque in the world doesn't count for anything if you have no grip maybe I would have been better trying high ratio high gear start?

    What would I do the same?   Give in gracefully accept the tow and keep smiling.

     

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  • Hakinbush
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    edited February 2016 #30

    Well Bof I know what John Cleese would have done, yep the old toyota gets a sound thrashing with a piece of bush..

  • brue
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    edited February 2016 #31

    Bladon Chains are now loaning mats to the grass pitch users, we were very pleased to use these last year. Our mats are smaller than the ones loaned out.