Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV
Has anyone got any experience or knowledge on the towing capability of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV?
According to its spec, max load is 1500kg.
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This has been asked a number of times on here in the recent past. Even Mitsubishi dealers themselves privately admit the diesel is better for towing and will give better real world economy. unless you are buying through a business to benefit from 100% tax
write down i wouldn't bother.0 -
Has anyone got any experience or knowledge on the towing capability of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV?
According to its spec, max load is 1500kg.
Write your comments here...I had quick look at the outlander diesel & was disapoonted with the low kerb weight 1600 ish
Making my van a 95% match
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Changing my 2010 Shogun LWB and have looked hard at the Outlander PHEV, conclusion is that it wont do the job (our van is a Conqueror 570). Mitsubishi Dealer has been totally up front on this and as a result we have gone for the 2016 GX4. I know we will
miss the Shogun, its been a superb tug but only manages mid 20's mpg, I expect low 30's with the Outlander. Will post once its arrived and has done some work ! I did fancy the idea of a Hybrid but the PHEV just wont give any safe margin when towing the Swift.0 -
Changing my 2010 Shogun LWB and have looked hard at the Outlander PHEV, conclusion is that it wont do the job (our van is a Conqueror 570). Mitsubishi Dealer has been totally up front on this and as a result we have gone for the 2016 GX4. I know we will
miss the Shogun, its been a superb tug but only manages mid 20's mpg, I expect low 30's with the Outlander. Will post once its arrived and has done some work ! I did fancy the idea of a Hybrid but the PHEV just wont give any safe margin when towing the Swift.Did you take up the £1500 discount that's one of the CC's offers?
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No, discussed it with the dealer and he was able to offer a substantial discount and a good part x on the Shogun so very comfortable with the deal. Should collect this coming weekend.
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It will be good to hear what you think, after you've had a chance to tow with it.
BTW did you just go direct to a local dealer or did you find it through one of those car search sites?
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I am never comfortable with a deal until I have explored all the discounts available. As I understand it the CC offer is available over and above any other deals negotiated. It's your money so why would you willingly let the dealer have it?!
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Notso swift, l am about to do the same thing swap the Shogun for the outlander diesel, always towed with shoguns so a little worried wether we should change. like you looking at the outlander GX4 and the GX3 2016, we wont be swapping until later this year,
so would appreciate some feed back. l am not bothered about the fuel its the road tax that winds me up especially how vw conned everyone, green emisions to me is just another goverment money maker.Like you will miss the shogun, my fear is that when we go to
change and see a new shogun at the side of the outlander l may wimp out and stay with the good old shoggy.Nige
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Straight to the dealer who has serviced the Shogun, they are really excellent (surprising I know but...)
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Have had the car since Friday and have already clocked 150 miles, love it as a car, so much smoother and less "agricultural" than my dear old shogun, will report back soon on towing as we have a long trip planned for early April. So far Its reading 37.3
mpg and its not been on the motorway in cruise yet. Expecting good results, even when towing, its not significantly smaller physically and certainly pulls as well if not better unladen, as you all know, the test will be as a tug.0 -
Nige, Road tax is daft, I have just had the notice to renew on my XKR, £505, its on an 08 plate, meanwhile my 69 Viteese pays nothing ! The Jag does less than 2000 miles a year, why dont they just put the duty on fuel, at least then the people (non company
car users to whom it makes no odds) who do the miles pay the bill.0 -
.... why dont they just put the duty on fuel, .....
How much duty do you want on your fuel? There's already something like 80 pence in the pound by the time it gets to the pump/ And my Merc is also in the £500 bracket .... it was around £800 for our 3 vehicles
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Fuel tax is 60% of the cost of a litre of petrol or diesel but the argument for increasing fuel duty and abolishing road tax has strong backing. Road tax evasion continues on a large scale, estimated by some sources to be as much as £450 million annually,
despite efforts to catch the evaders ( NPR systems etc) so raising the fuel duty would ensure that everyone who uses the roads pays as we all need fuel. There is also a strong argument that if you choose to drive a large uneconomical vehicle (my Jaguar for
example) then you pay more than if you drive a more frugal car, the same argument applies to milage covered, the more you do, the more you pay. Seems a more equitable solution to me.0 -
why dont they just put the duty on fuel,
It`d be very difficult for the Government to do this now. For ages they`ve been promoting low emissions as the saviour of the planet (eco this, bluemotion that etc).
So, for the average punter who traded in their old car (which probably had many years of life left...) to buy some low emission car so they could save a few quid on RFL it`d look like they were lied to....
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Very difficult for the goverment Ha!, has long has the car manufacturers are telling the truth how many more like VW. Has far has l am concerned l have been paying for those cars on suposedly low emissions to the the tune o £300 a year on avererage
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Notso swift, l am about to do the same thing swap the Shogun for the outlander diesel, always towed with shoguns so a little worried wether we should change. like you looking at the outlander GX4 and the GX3 2016, we wont be swapping until later this year,
so would appreciate some feed back. l am not bothered about the fuel its the road tax that winds me up especially how vw conned everyone, green emisions to me is just another goverment money maker.Like you will miss the shogun, my fear is that when we go to
change and see a new shogun at the side of the outlander l may wimp out and stay with the good old shoggy.Nige
Write your comments here...I too have been considering the Outlander. The drawback is that it ha a low kerb weight by comparison with vehicles of a similar size. The other possible choices are a Volvo XC60, a Discovery Sport or a Ford Edge.
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Now done a 650 mile trip (without the van I'afriad) but have averaged 45.7 mpg, cant say I am dissapointed with that ! Drives really well and am missing the Shogun less and less, I like the driving dynamics, smooth, very comfortable and love the "more car
like" feel it. Sat nav and info systems are great and the electric tail gate makes loading / unloding a lot easier especially as the rear door open upwards and not sideways like the Shog. Taking the Van away mid March so will report back. Nige, its looking
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I am interested to read this as I am considering one. the other choices are a Discovery Sport or a Volvo XC60. It looks to me as if the Mitsubishi is a lot less money. On the other hand both Land Rover and Volvo dealerships are 15 miles from home whereas
we are 40 miles from a Mitsubishi dealer which is a long way to go when it comes to service time and so on.0 -
Getting better as time passes, I really like the GX4 Outlander. The fuel consumption is quite remarkable when compared to my dear old Shogun, I must admit to a heavy(ish) right foot but when cruise and eco mode are selected I am getting low to mid 40's this
in North Devon where we are short on motorways. A trip to west sussex saw 47.8! Towed the trailer the other day and with a ton of top soil, which I then had to spade out into the new Devon Band at the back of the house, was still getting 31+mpg. Next week
we are using the caravan so will be a huge test. Had the Outlander for a month now and done over 1500 miles, the history button on the trip tells me I have averaged 35.4mpg. Love the car and am very pleased we changed.0 -
.... why dont they just put the duty on fuel, .....
How much duty do you want on your fuel? There's already something like 80 pence in the pound by the time it gets to the pump/ And my Merc is also in the £500 bracket .... it was around £800 for our 3 vehicles
Write your comments here...Why do some vehicles get off with no road tax,they use the road or do they float above the tarmac.
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...." why don’t they just put the duty on fuel," .....
If one chancellor transfers the duty to fuel, how long will it be before another chancellor, seeing the opportunity, reintroduces it on vehicles without removing it from fuel?
A win-win or loose-loose situation, depending on which side of the equation you are on.
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Update on the Outlander's towing ability as we have just been away for a long weekend. Didnt travel too far, 230 miles round trip and averaged 31.7mpg, when compared to the low 20's I was getting with the dear old Shogun cannt say I am that disappointed.
The Outlander is a 2.2ltr against the Shoguns 3.2ltr and as you would expect the engine worked harder to provide similar performance but I did not feel that I had to thrash it to get what I wanted. Outbound I didnt balance the van well enough and as the hitch
loading is 80kg against the Shouguns 110kg I did have a minor "tank slapper" that the ATC on the van dealt with as soon as it began. Inbound I was more careful with loading the van and getting the hitch load correct, NO issues at all once set up properly so
my fault not the cars. Changed direction well with no issues and the breaking was as before. Bearing in mind that the van is roughly 1700kg loaded and we had quite a bit of first season run kit in the car overall I was suitably impresed. So I see this as a
worthy replacement for our old Shogun even though it works a little harder to get the same performance. As we tow perhaps 25% of the time the huge improvement in mpg when not towing more than justifies the change in my mind, any sheer grunt issues that loosing
a ltr in engine capacity may give are not limiting to having a great new tug.0 -
The hitch on the caravan, if it has an Alko chassis, is restricted to 100kg. So if your nose weight was 110kgs you were over the caravan hitch limit. Also not sure why you got a 'tank slapper' (Not withstanding the fact you weren't on a motorbike) because
your nose weight was 80kgs, on our old car it was only 75kgs and I had no problem at all.Interesting info on the Outlander though because I've been looking at them myself. Wanted a PHEV but with a towing limit of only 1500kgs it was pretty pointless for what we need it for.
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The PHEV never runs on petrol power, the engine only drives the generator to charge the batteries, which in turn drive the traction motors that drive the car, it always rune on electric power.
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The PHEV never runs on petrol power, the engine only drives the generator to charge the batteries, which in turn drive the traction motors that drive the car, it always rune on electric power.
Write your comments here...I should have said "...under indirect petrol power...". I wonder if any club members have experience of towing with a PHEV. I did see an English couple in France with a PHEV and a fairly large looking Swift 2 berth. I was hoping
to ask them how they got on but they left the site before I was able to. I have just looked at the towcar.info web site and in theory a PHEV should be able to tow our van.0
