Van conversion

ATDel
ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
edited November 2016 in Motorhomes #1

A few months ago I asked some questions re converting a van into a small camper.

Well first stage has arrived as yesterday I bought a 65 plate Ford Custom swb Limited. Collect next Saturday. Part exed the tow car so the van will do towing with the caravan and when converted (by middle of next year) will a stand alone camper for a bit of w/e wild camping.

First job will be removing the bulkhead and putting in side and rear windows so it doesnt look like a conventional van, then next year will start on the inside Happy

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  • obbernockle
    obbernockle Forum Participant Posts: 616
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    edited November 2016 #2

    Will the taxtion class change? Will it require any certification? Have you enquirer about insuring such a conversion. It sounds like a great project to do.

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited November 2016 #3

    The only certification will be by the conversion company who will install the electrics and gas during our fit out. Once finished you can apply for a change of use to the DVLA  to change to a motorhome. It must have a fitted sink unit and a bed! photos along
    with the certification should be sufficiant.

    The insurance when done is based on the base van plus any extras you need to add on, once you have the change of use via DVLA it can be insured as such.

    Wellhouse will charge upwards to £48k for a new van conversion, costing this out I can convert minus the roof bed for about half the cost

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #4

    Kevin, I would urge caution if you are removing bulkheads, side support bars etc because they are fitted to strengthen the vehicle's structure. If they are not replaced by some other means of support the vehicle's safety and, possibly, legality may be affected
    and its crash resistance could be impaired. I would strongly suggest getting expert advice before embarking on this project. 

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited November 2016 #5

    Thanks Tinwheeler, already checked out, the bulkhead in the custom is not structural, its not like the VW range which is welded in, it is fitted using 10 bolts only, and does not affect the integrity of the van when removed

    No support bars will be removed

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #6

    I'm pleased to hear that, Kevin. You've obviously done some research and are aware of the pitfalls. 

    Good luck with the conversion.

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited November 2016 #7

    Had to do research first as im not buying a cheap old van to pull apart, im buying a quite expensive van and doing a decent job to last us a few years. No rushing or corner cutting, it needs to be propper as it will be MOTd when due in 2 years as a motorhome
    so it has to be right.

    Kev

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #8

    It sounds good, Kev. You'll end up with a quality product.

    A proper job.Cool

  • peegeenine
    peegeenine Forum Participant Posts: 548
    edited November 2016 #9

    Sounds great, at least you will end up with a van that will be exactly what you want. Will it require an IVA test before it can be registered as a motorhome now that type approval is upon us?

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited November 2016 #10

    My neighbour did a conversion last year. Really good proffesional job

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #11

    good luck, KevHappy

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited November 2016 #12

    Sounds great, at least you will end up with a van that will be exactly what you want. Will it require an IVA test before it can be registered as a motorhome now that type approval is upon us?

    To get the V5 changed you need to prove that the van has been fitted with sink, cooking facilites and sleeping facilities all permanent. You can apply in writing along with photos to the DVLA. You may be required to take the van to a DVSA (vosa) station
    to be inspected but its very uncommon.

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited December 2016 #13

    So this is what we bought 4 weeks ago and then the first stage of the conversion done, windows fitted smile

     

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited December 2016 #15

    Insurance was ok until I said the word conversion well one would have thought I was trying to insure a war tank or something!

    Adrian Flux came through with a great policy, make any alterations and continue with a conversion, when complete let them know, all for just over the price I had the car insured for, so a good result in the end

  • ABM
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    edited December 2016 #16

    From  your  pics,  the  motor  appears  to  fit  nicely  into  the  marked 

    parking  space  and  without  the  High  or  elevating  roof 

    you  should have few  if  any  restrictions  on  where  you

    can  park  !  Great  news  especiqally  if  you  can  get  under

      the  height  barriers  which  seem  to  vary  according  to

      the  height  of  the  installer  yell    !!

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited December 2016 #17

    Yes short wheel base for the reason of getting around and fitting into parking spaces and didn't want an elevating roof, but may change our minds when we start using it, well wait and see.

    Kev

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2016 #18

    Thanks for the update, Kevin. It's looking good.

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited July 2017 #19

    Well it's been a long time coming but the van went to be converted Tuesday last week and we should get it back as a campervan by the end of next week. So exited to be able to get out and about on our days off as we now live in the caravan working for the camc.

    will post some pics when we get it back

    Kev

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2017 #20

    Cheers, Kevin.

    Can I ask what company are you using to do the conversion?

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited July 2017 #21

    Yes we are using ecowagon based near Portreath, met them at the Motorhome show in Exeter, they have won awards for their VW conversions. Ours will be their first transit custom so having to make all the templates as they go.

    Kev

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2017 #22

    I know the place, Kev. It used to be the second hand tool seller. I saw the VWs there a few weeks ago and wondered what it was all about.

    It'll be interesting to see the finished product.

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2017 #23

    My neighbour did his van conversion himself two years ago. Lovely! He used the same insurer

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited August 2017 #24

    Well the van is now complete and looking very smart. We are very pleased with the job done by ecowagon and would highly recommend their workmanship.

    just got to get a small drive away awning as it is and was always going to be a bit tight with 2 adults and 2 dogs, but it is just for a night or two at a time so big enough as it's our car as well

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #25

    Thanks for the update, Kevin.

    It's good to hear you're happy with the end result. It looks good.

    I hope you have many happy trips in your van.

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited March 2018 #26

    Time has moved on and we have had some great nights and w/e away in the camper. As we have 3 to 4 months off each year (camc off season) we went to Spain this year jan and feb. As a day van/weekender it is great but any more than that too small especially travelling to Spain through France with it raining non stop for 2 days and 3 nightswith 2 adults a Labrador and kit for 2 months So............. although we still love the van it has been sold and we have ordered a Motorhome so we can tour Spain and Portugal in the off season and not stay in apartments.

    We have ordered an Elddis sunseeker (autoquest dealer special) 155 4berth with fold away seats for occasional use which is perfect (I hope) for us.

    we didn’t loose much on the custom, the dealer was very impressed with the conversion so gave a very good price.

    we pick up the new one 8 April 😀