Bailey 2 berth motorhome

Elsa
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edited October 2016 in Motorhomes #1

Hi, Had anyone got a Bailey 2berth motorhome we seen one like the look of it, just wonder any good point and bad point as well, Thanks Elsa

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2016 #2

    Elsa

    Which model number, is it a 625?  We have the larger 740 which we purchased in 2013 and we have used it quite extensively. If its the 625 I think that is the one that Tammygirl has so I am sure she would be happy to give her insight.

    David

  • Jeday
    Jeday Forum Participant Posts: 18
    edited October 2016 #3

    Just ordered the Autograph 68-2. Hope it's as good as it looks.

  • Tammygirl
    Tammygirl Club Member Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭
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    edited October 2016 #4

    Hi Elsa, David is correct in that we have the 2012 625SE 2 berth Bailey motorhome. What is you would like to know?

    We have done 28000 mls in it so far both in europe and uk. There is loads of storage space in the overhead lockers and under the beds. The heater is very good as is the fridge. Beds are comfy and roomy.

    I have and do drive the van but OH is the main driver (he hates being a passenger, in any vehicle) Good mpg (we think)

    ASk away if its this version you have been looking at and I'll happily get back to you.Smile

  • Elsa
    Elsa Forum Participant Posts: 51
    edited October 2016 #5

    Hi Tammygirl,

    Thanks, That sound good so far, I think that is the model we are after two long bench seat, glad to hear the heater is good and the fridge , is the fridge larger than the caravan? as we can get most thing in the fridge for 7 days apart from bread, may get
    a elec bike for shop ! When you park up for the week and got the heater on do you get cold air coming from the engine apartment, What is the cost of the road tax, and last the shower is it fully mould, not the wallboard as I don't like them,

    Once again Thank you for your time, Elsa

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2016 #6

    Hi Tammygirl,

    Thanks, That sound good so far, I think that is the model we are after two long bench seat, glad to hear the heater is good and the fridge , is the fridge larger than the caravan? as we can get most thing in the fridge for 7 days apart from bread, may get
    a elec bike for shop ! When you park up for the week and got the heater on do you get cold air coming from the engine apartment, What is the cost of the road tax, and last the shower is it fully mould, not the wallboard as I don't like them,

    Once again Thank you for your time, Elsa

    Hi Elsa, the fridge we have is a Dometic, its certainly big enough for us for a couple of months away, the freezer compartment can be removed altogether giving a bigger fridge area. The freezer on ours is so good that even on a 24 hrs ferry the food I had
    in there was still frozen solid on arrival.

    When parked up with the heater on? no there is no cold air coming from the engine, however you can get a draught from the cab area if you leave the cab heater set to freshair instead of recirculate, this shuts it off. We also have a set
    of Taylormade screens for the cab that have the longer bib at the front which covers the vents to the cab, this helps cut out the draughts. We also in the deepths of winter stand a small oil filled radiator at the cab end to help keep a balance within the
    habitation area.

    We both have folding Ebikes and use them all the time while away, they are great fun and you can go for miles.

    Road Tax, is £235 at the moment.

    Shower, ours is a complete moulded shower.

    Hope this helps, ask if you want more info.Smile

  • Elsa
    Elsa Forum Participant Posts: 51
    edited October 2016 #7

    Hi Tammygirl, Thank you for the info, I will write down the note you said, handy to know, The Bailey we looking at is 620se model, But I can't get over that you have to change the cam belt every 5 years even if you only do 2000 miles a year more or less
    ? I have been talking to Motorhome owner I find them very helpfull better than Caravan owner, odd really ! Thanks Tammygirl

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #8

     ...., But I can't get over that you have to change the cam belt every 5 years even if you only do 2000 miles a year more or less ?  ...

    Vauxhall cars were 4yrs or 40000 miles, which ever came sooner. 

  • mark674
    mark674 Forum Participant Posts: 10
    edited October 2016 #9

    Hi, Had anyone got a Bailey 2berth motorhome we seen one like the look of it, just wonder any good point and bad point as well, Than

    Hi, Had anyone got a Bailey 2berth motorhome we seen one like the look of it, just wonder any good point and bad point as well, Thanks Elsa

    Write your comments here...I have a 635 2 berth works for me loads of room inside

  • EJB986
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    edited October 2016 #10

    A Motorhome that is static for long periods, as most are, don't do cam belts any good at all.

    The cost over 4 or 5 years really isn't much compared with a new engine!........that's my philosophy anywaySmile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #11

    The cam belt issue will have nothing to do with it being a Bailey. You do realise that, I hope, Elsa.

  • Randomcamper
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    edited October 2016 #12

    Are you sure it has a cam belt......?

    Most of the Baileys use the Peugot badged derivative of the "Sevel" sisters which is(or was) a Ford engine  with a cam chain.......

    Fiat multijets have a cam belt and I know some manufacturers swap from Peugeot to Fiat if you spec the Comfortmatic (auto) gearbox..........

     

  • Skyerod67
    Skyerod67 Forum Participant Posts: 40
    edited October 2016 #13

    Hi Elsa,

    Just seen your request for info on the 620se. 

    We have had one for three years now and have done 12000 miles in it. It is a great piece of kit and the double/single bed arrangement is huge whichever way you use it.

    Most of the other kit is similar to the 620se  already described.

    The payload is over 700 k gs so it's unlikely you will overload it even with the rear kitchen arrangement.

    The only issue is it is slightly susceptible to side winds on motorways,  but aren't they all.

    Last trip we got 30mpg.

    I would highly recommend it but be quick as ther aren't many around of this configuration - Bailey stopped producing them, can't understand why!

     

  • Skyerod67
    Skyerod67 Forum Participant Posts: 40
    edited October 2016 #14

    Sorry, meant 625 se alternative - typo error.

  • Elsa
    Elsa Forum Participant Posts: 51
    edited October 2016 #15

    Hi All Thanks for the reply, Glad it a cam chain, do Bailey do a fix bed model with a garage underneath it? Thanks Elsa

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited October 2016 #16

    Hi All Thanks for the reply, Glad it a cam chain, do Bailey do a fix bed model with a garage underneath it? Thanks Elsa

    Write your comments here...best place to look would be on their website....

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2016 #17

    they are supposed to be releasing one (79-6G?) imminently...

    i thought at the NEC but it didnt make it....

    ive not seen any pictures, only the reports in mags that 'its coming soon....'

    remember, this will be Bailey's first attempt at a garage model, and that there are many, many, continental brands who have been doing this for years....

    have a good look around....

  • Aspenshaw
    Aspenshaw Forum Participant Posts: 611
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    edited October 2016 #18

    Like other manufacturers, you will find posts on the motorhome forums questionning the build quality of Baileys and in particular, leaks. You will also find many happy owners.

    Make sure you can get your vehicle serviced, or at least any warranty work done, by a Peugeot dealer who has experience of motorhomes. Some Peugeot dealers cannot deal with motorhomes. Fiat based motorhomes are serviced by the Fiat Professional garages,
    most who have experience of motorhomes that require a different service schedule to commercial vans. Some dealers can service your motorhome. They say 70% of motorhomes are based on a Fiat.

    Also check out the loading margin especially if you are adding electric bikes and other accessories [should be OK though]. If its one of the wider Baileys, it'll be the same width as the smaller buses and 15" wider than a standard panel van so be sure you
    can cope with the width.

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2016 #19

    there is a 68-2 in the new range, rear lounge 2 berth with 450kg payload.

    moving up to the 75-2 french bed 2-berth version payload falls to an 'unusable' (IMHO) 315kg

    the 79 series sits on a 3850 chassis.

    no indication from Bailey as to what is (or more to the point, isnt) included in the MIRO for this range.

    with the trend for manufacturers to 'miss out' things like fresh water, i would be very wary about the 75 series and would even be having the dealer weigh the 68 series prior to any decision.

    Baileys are very wide vans, and wider vans, like longer vans, add weight....

    if your licence covers you beyond 3.5t, no problem...

    if not, check the weight for yourself.

    remember, it will almost certainly be the rear axle limit that is breached before the MTPLM.....so, you might think you have (say) 350 kg to spare, but adding (say) just 200kg might take the rear axle over the limit.

    again, if youre thinking about a rack and electric bikes, this is exactly the loading place that will do the most damage, weightwise.

    check and check again....

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2016 #20

    I think a good thing to consider apart from weight is design.  British MH's design are mostly based on their caravans which they take and then plonk it on the back of a chassis.  IMHO the Euro MH's are designed as a MH from scratch so make best use of the
    space available.  Also build quality, look at the drawers on a Bailey or SWIFT and compare to a Knaus, Carthago or Hymer, or the partition walls, seats etc.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2016 #21

    they are supposed to be releasing one (79-6G?) imminently...

    i thought at the NEC but it didnt make it....

    ive not seen any pictures, only the reports in mags that 'its coming soon....'

    remember, this will be Bailey's first attempt at a garage model, and that there are many, many, continental brands who have been doing this for years....

    have a good look around....

    Not quite their first garage model BB, they did do one before think it was the 650Undecided it had twin singles over a garage, the garage doors were not as big as some makes. We looked at it but hought it a bit flimsy, there was no over head lockers in the bedroom and the wardrobes were not much good either. We thought they would work on it and come out with something the next year but the didn't, hopefully now they have put a bit more thought into it.

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2016 #22

    TG, thanks, yes youre right....i remember looking at a very small Bailey (6m ish) which had a rear locker but probably not deep enough (as you say) to be an actual garage...most suggest an internal height of 1m to qualify....

    i also agree that there were other issues with that van which we werent happy about...

    AFAIK, i have a feeling that this new model will be quite long, either the '75' (7.5m) range or the '79' (7.9m) so quite a bit of van to haul around....and with that large storage area at the back, a '75' on 3.5t will be tight on that rear axle.....

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2016 #23

    TG, thanks, yes youre right....i remember looking at a very small Bailey (6m ish) which had a rear locker but probably not deep enough (as you say) to be an actual garage...most suggest an internal height of 1m to qualify....

    i also agree that there were other issues with that van which we werent happy about...

    AFAIK, i have a feeling that this new model will be quite long, either the '75' (7.5m) range or the '79' (7.9m) so quite a bit of van to haul around....and with that large storage area at the back, a '75' on 3.5t will be tight on that rear axle.....

    We've not seen any of the 2017 models yet other than online, but they all seem to be on the big side, I like the look of the higher backs to the seating, how they will perform in real life time will tell. The rest I will have to wait until I can see one
    in the flesh.