Draining Water Tank Over Winter

Ciscokid
Ciscokid Forum Participant Posts: 2
edited August 2016 in Motorhomes #1

Recently purchased 2005 Plate Ducato Savannah Tio, its fitted with Truma Gas / 230v water tank. I assume it needs to be drained over the winter period, can anyone assist as to how to drain it ?

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  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2016 #2

    you need to do two things....

    firstly, drain the fresh tank by opening the tap/bung....

    when the tank is drained, turn on the water pump to drain the taps and pipework, also open the boiler drain valve which will dispel water out through the bottom of the boiler...

    eventually, the taps will start to expel air and the boiler will also run till empty....

    at this point, turn off the water pump....you can leave the taps open to allow for any residual water expanding should there be a hard frost....

  • triky auto
    triky auto Forum Participant Posts: 8,690
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    edited August 2016 #3

    Undecided , It helps if you open ALL taps/shower etc ,before draining down.The water flows out easier . 

  • QFour
    QFour Forum Participant Posts: 442
    edited August 2016 #4

    We use our motorhome all the year round. Winking

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited August 2016 #5

    We use our motorhome all the year round. Winking

    Write your comments here...but that wont stop it freezing the times you re not using it will it or do you live in it 365 days a year or keep the heating on 24*7 when not in use?

  • Ciscokid
    Ciscokid Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited August 2016 #6

    Thanks to all who got back to me, certainly don`t intend to use the  van ALL year, so thanks to Boleroboy and triky auto, just the advice I was looking for.

  • Doug n San
    Doug n San Forum Participant Posts: 92
    edited August 2016 #7

    Slightly tounge in cheek, Take the MH to spain or Portugal, that way there will be little chance of a freeze-up.   (sorry)  :-))

  • vintageb3
    vintageb3 Forum Participant Posts: 65
    edited September 2016 #8

    We use our motorhome all the year round. Winking

    Write your comments here...but that wont stop it freezing the times you re not using it will it or do you live in it 365 days a year or keep the heating on 24*7 when not in use?

    Write your comments here...

    We use our motorhome all the year round. Winking

    We use our motorhome all the year round. Winking

    Like the OP asked, how do you deal with draining down in winter if you use the van through the winter? Do you drain down before and after you have been away?

    Also, my Bailey has a heater on the fresh tank, but not the grey. Any advice for avoiding the grey freezing?  Leave the tap open and drain into a bucket?

    Thanks!

    vintageb3

  • BlueVanMan
    BlueVanMan Forum Participant Posts: 382
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    edited September 2016 #9

    Its actually quite difficult to get the water out from every nook and cranny in the water systems but it is worth the effort because if any residual water freezes it may cause leaks and damage. So for example try to take your shower hose to the lowest point.
    Take particular care to insure that the boiler is fully drained. Ensure that you leave sink/basin/shower taps open in the midway poisition between hot and cold and that you switch the pump off (otherwise the open tap will cause
    the pump to run to destruction). Be aware that your Truma boiler has an automatic valve which will open to dump water at  a temperature above freezing (4C if I recollect) in order to protect the boiler from frost damage . This is another reason why it is best
    to drain assiduously in cold weather between trips. Conversely when reusing the van on winter trips check if the boiler valve is open or closed before refilling water. Obviously it should be closed because If it is open the filling water will just go straight
    through the boiler to the ground. The dump valve is often in an inconvenient location but you need to find it and understand how it works. If it is cold and the valve won't stay closed you may neeed to warm the van up before filling water. Some people use
    a clothes peg to temporarily stop the valve from opening but this is dangerous if you forget to take it off.

    The above may sound daunting but you will soon get the hang of it and proper attention to draining should be repaid by lack of problems. One more thing. If you have an inside fresh water tank (under a bench seat for example) and
    the drain plug is accessesed by unscrewing a bung on the top of the tank and putting your hand in. Rember to put back the drain plug before refilling and screw the bung tight. On an early trip when I failed to tighten the top bung we manged
    to put about 10 gallons on water into our van as opposed to the tank when refilling and only noticed when water was coming out the cab dooors. Fortunately no permanaent damage was done.

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited September 2016 #10

    the freezing of water in winter and its expansion into places it cant expand, is where you will/might get damage...

    once you have drained down and have left taps/tanks open, any freezing of the remaing small amount of water shouldnt be an issue....it will have space to expand...

    however, if the ban is going to be sat when there is a risk of severe/prolonged frost then tne more water you can remove, the better.

    we have two dump valves....one specifically for the boiler and another close by, which is the system auto frost dump, which conveniently sits at the lowest point of the system, so good for getting most of it out.

    however, here in Somerset, we just dont get these severe sub zero temperatures very often, but if we are home for any length of time in Nov/Dec/Jan i will drain down....

  • Fysherman
    Fysherman Forum Participant Posts: 1,570
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    edited September 2016 #11

    It's dead easy to drain the system in either a MH or a caravan.

    Open the drain taps

    Close all the taps after most has come out

    Unscrew the shower head

    Open cold tap in shower room

    Place shower hose in mouth

    Blow until all the water is out.

    Repeat for the hot water side

    Simples (unless you have emphysema then just find someone from CT and ask for some hot airHappy )

  • Quasar524
    Quasar524 Forum Participant Posts: 148
    edited September 2016 #12

     

    .... or keep the heating on 24*7 when not in use?

    That is what we do, our MH is stored at home on a hook-up.  We just leave the heating on with the thermostat at a very low setting, so most of the time the heating is off, but kicks in when temperatures get close to freezing.  The cost so far has proved
    marginal, it adds a bit to our electric bill, but way less than the cost of, say, a new mixer tap never mind a new water heater.