Making the move from Caravan to Motorhome

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  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #92

    TG, most PVCs now have a full bug screen in the sliding doorway, either as std or optional.

    ...and for JVB, an auto closing (nice and quiet) door is generally available....Happy

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2016 #93

    TG, most PVCs now have a full bug screen in the sliding doorway, either as std or optional.

    ...and for JVB, an auto closing (nice and quiet) door is generally available....Happy

    Thanks BB, so sign of a bug screen in the vehicle we saw, hence the question. Might have to go back and have another lookWink or at least ask the
    question. It came with a Thule canopy thoughSmile

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #94

    TG, most PVCs now have a full bug screen in the sliding doorway, either as std or optional.

    ...and for JVB, an auto closing (nice and quiet) door is generally available....Happy

    Thanks BB, so sign of a bug screen in the vehicle we saw, hence the question. Might have to go back and have another lookWink or at least ask the
    question. It came with a Thule canopy thoughSmile

    .....it may be the Conti vans (Adria, Malibu, Pilote, Rapido, Hymer etc) where ive seen them.

    i dont specifically remember them on an AS or an AT or an Autocruise....but not looked there too hard.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #95

    http://www.camping-world.at/967/Malibu_600

    TG, sorry, cant do a photo, but image 39/40 shows the sliding door and bug screen....Happy

  • brue
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    edited July 2016 #96

    Thanks guysSmile not sure if I like them not opening. Might be better security wise but in hot climates, it means you have to have the doors
    open (no good if you are out) or the van is going to get really hot, 3 roof lights might help but even so. How about how to keep bugs out with no screen?

    The AS athermic windows are very good but they are "fixed" so whatever AS you choose the windows are in the same position. So the designs with seats/beds in the back have no opening side windows. The smaller vans are the only ones with an opening window
    near the seats and beds which are at the front. You do have good opening roof lights and can fling open the back doors but they can also feel a bit claustrophobic. Although I really like van conversions (there are other makes with full fly screens) they are
    definitely colder due to having more opening doors. Take a good look at the insulation if considering one. Beware noisy blown air heating too.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #97

    one of the best brands of PVC for the (relative) feeling of space is AutoTrail....their V-line range (now called Sport, as theyve brought in a lower specced SE) has a prorietry GRP roof with large skylight, which raises internal standing height and allows
    cabling/plumbing etc to run under a 'double floor'....

    very nearly went for one when looking for our current van (yes, a bit different, i know....) but havent given up on a smaller van eventually.

    they also have a rear lounge version which would compare well with the Warwick...but doesnt have opening rear doors, however the SE 635 would be almost identical, but the SE doesnt have the high roof nor double floor.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2016 #98

    Thanks guysSmile not sure if I like them not opening. Might be better security wise but in hot climates, it means you have to have the doors
    open (no good if you are out) or the van is going to get really hot, 3 roof lights might help but even so. How about how to keep bugs out with no screen?

    The AS athermic windows are very good but they are "fixed" so whatever AS you choose the windows are in the same position. So the designs with seats/beds in the back have no opening side windows. The smaller vans are the only ones with an opening window
    near the seats and beds which are at the front. You do have good opening roof lights and can fling open the back doors but they can also feel a bit claustrophobic. Although I really like van conversions (there are other makes with full fly screens) they are
    definitely colder due to having more opening doors. Take a good look at the insulation if considering one. Beware noisy blown air heating too.

    Thanks Brue, its the first time we've even looked at a PVC so wasn't really aware of what the pitfalls are. the heating was the same as we have in our current M/H which isn't noisy, why are they noisy in PVC vans. The van didn't feel claustraphobic due to
    its size, we did close the side door to get the feel of it. The windows not opening are problably not such and issue as I think then, we are just used to leaving them on the night vents when its hot and we are out. If we decide to go to PVC we will have to
    do a lot more research I thinkWink

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2016 #99

    Cheers BB for the link, yes it would seem that they can be fittedWink need to do more research if we decide to go that way in the future.

  • brue
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    edited July 2016 #100

    I like the AS designs, we din't feel claustrophobic in our smaller one but I think not being able to open a back window could have that effect. We knew someone who had the lay out and missed opening windows. Having back doors is lovely (and very useful for carrying things) especially opening on to a nice view. I like the V line designs too, calm, streamlined interiors and well fitted.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #101

    I like the AS designs, we din't feel claustrophobic in our smaller one but I think not being able to open a back window could have that effect. We knew someone who had the lay out and missed opening windows.
    Having back doors is lovely (and very useful for carrying things) especially opening on to a nice view. I like the V line designs too, calm, streamlined interiors and well fitted.

    ...again the market is now giving choice here....AT V-line Sport rear lounge version has a one piece 'enclosed' lounge like a coachbuilt, so does the IH version...

    the theory is more strength, less draughts, an enclosed 'boot'.

    the nice thing is that the customer can now choose not only their layout but also how the van is constructed.

    for anyone looking for an 'open feeling' PVC, Murvi have a great layout and a fiercely loyal customer following...

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #102

    Kjell, i know we touched on drop down beds, and i know you felt a fixed bed would be what you wanted, however the latest versons (longitudinal 2m x 1.40m so large) come down to just above seat height....

    i mention this specifically as What MH has just produced a gushing review of the Dethleffs 4-travel T 6966-4 (a long name...!) which gives a huge 8 seater lounge, large kitchen with low oven and tall fridge feezer, a truly palatial wash/changing room with
    wardrobes and separate walk in shower, along with a rear garage/storage area for all your kit.

    this van is 6.99m long also works (just about) on 3500kg and comes in at £52k fully loaded...

    Burstner also produce an idetical model (built at the same factory) which has different external colours and trim...

    the magazine might be worth a few pounds, just tomget the idea of how these 'one-box' designs acheive their space.

    there is a Dethleffs dealer in Ayr (not too far from you in Dumbarton) if you felt this was something worth exploring.

    this seems to give you everything you were looking for, provided that the bed is sufficiently low and easy to access.

    good luck.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #103

    ooops, Kjell, its actually £62k .....sorry...Sad