2016 Lunar caravan build quality

Mkubwa
Mkubwa Forum Participant Posts: 3
edited October 2016 in Caravans #1

In June I bought a dealer spec Lunar Venus - re branded under the dealer name.

First few outings went ok as we found our way around the caravan.  Previous to this we had a good old Conway Crusader.

Nearly two months ago things started to go wrong.  Parts of the caravan started to fall off:  The front blinds, the front window, parts of the decor panelling, the bolts on the island bed fell out and just today, the waste water pipes fell off from under the caravan!!!

There are numerous electrical issues: hot water does not work under electric, lights intermittent.

I am waiting to hear back from the dealer but I really think that Lunar's build quality control is absolutely non existent.

Has anyone else experienced this or have I just purchased a brand new lemon which will become a ball and chain?

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  • howardW
    howardW Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited October 2016 #2

    I have a 2014 lunar clubman saros edition, the screws which hold the front bulkhead wall to the side walls kept undoing even though i retightened them, It was in the dealer last week for this to be dealt with under warranty, fix was to put larger screws
    in and seal them with silicone sealer. Stll ok after 100 mile trip home, I will se how it goes.  On the matter of every thing falling off, this happened on the 2011 swift I had, erver time I went out something fell off or became loose, I spent more time refixing
    things than enjoying a break, when the water heater packed up when it was just out of warranty and the dealer or swift did not wabt to know, I got rid of it.

  • heddlo
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    edited October 2016 #3

    Sadly I think you'll find this just the caravan industry as a whole!  Not just Lunar.  As has been said many times before (on here) if it was any other industry it would have folded years ago.

  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2016 #4

    We have a 2015 Lunar dealer special and our waste pipes fell of the outside of the van after 3 months.  Various other niggling issue but now we are waiting for the floor to be replaced.  I may consider another Lunar in future but it won't be a dealer special!

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #5

    Our Quasar has gone two and a half years without issues. I am afraid Lunar are about average for quality if you read the PC surveys and they all turn out the odd rubbish caravan some more than Lunar.

    On the basis of the survey your best bet by far is an Adria.

  • Tigi
    Tigi Forum Participant Posts: 1,038
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    edited October 2016 #6

    Had a faultless Ariva for three years, now have a Stellar minor catch problem and overheating microwave so no complaints with Lunar at all. Luck of the draw I`m afraid we`ve had four caravans & three motorhomes the two recent Lunars have been the best.

  • Simon100
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    edited October 2016 #7

    I had no problems with either my Quasar or my Clubman. I have had a couple of issues with my current Delta but nothing severe and I won't be put off purchasing another Lunar when the Delta gets replaced.

  • SELL
    SELL Forum Participant Posts: 398
    edited October 2016 #8

    I have a 2013 Quasar and (touch wood) have had no problems with it so far, so from my point of view would recomend Lunar.

  • papgeno
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    edited October 2016 #9

    We have a 2011 Quasar and the only thing to fall off was the handle on the bathroom door. It's a sliding door and the handle fits in a hole in the door. A drop of super glue and it's sorted.

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #10

    I would be reluctant to recommend any British make to anyone as I know sods law being what it is the one they got would be the rogue one.

  • CBRBlackbird
    CBRBlackbird Forum Participant Posts: 184
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    edited October 2016 #11

    I've had my Delta for 18 months (from new) and the only couple of issues have been with third party items, but Lunar parts.

    I also would recommend Lunar (subject to the proviso that all modern caravans are built to a weight and are not as solid as say a 6-7 year old Bailey/Coachman)

  • DaveWales
    DaveWales Forum Participant Posts: 40
    edited October 2016 #12

    My 2002 Clubman was a nightmare initially but once over the problems of the suspension collapsing and the spotlights melting it's been fine ever since! Oh, I forgot, the tyres were shredding after just a years use too. 

  • Kenzo Irl
    Kenzo Irl Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited October 2016 #13

    Our Quasar has gone two and a half years without issues. I am afraid Lunar are about average for quality if you read the PC surveys and they all turn out the odd rubbish caravan some more than Lunar.

    On the basis of the survey your best bet by far is an Adria.

    always amused when i read this kind of stuff... I know it's a generalisation but ... we purchased a brand new Adora Rhine in 2014 and it was a nightmare to own.  And Adria were rotten at customer service.  That was our experience anyway... 

  • SELL
    SELL Forum Participant Posts: 398
    edited October 2016 #14

    Has anyone seen the new Alaria range from Lunar launching at the NEC - 3 models all twin axle all priced £32499 looks a serious piece of kit.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited October 2016 #15

    Nice perhaps but no side dinnete and too long for me to get out of the drive I suspect

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #16

    Our Quasar has gone two and a half years without issues. I am afraid Lunar are about average for quality if you read the PC surveys and they all turn out the odd rubbish caravan some more than Lunar.

    On the basis of the survey your best bet by far is an Adria.

    always amused when i read this kind of stuff... I know it's a generalisation but ... we purchased a brand new Adora Rhine in 2014 and it was a nightmare to own.  And Adria were rotten at customer service.  That was our experience anyway... 

    I agree that Adria turn out the odd rogue. All I am saying is that statistically an Adria is likely to have less problems. No make is perfect and not sure the backup from any is worth writing home about.

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #17

    Has anyone seen the new Alaria range from Lunar launching at the NEC - 3 models all twin axle all priced £32499 looks a serious piece of kit.

    The big mistake for me is that front lounge faces the wrong side. Essentially if you put up an awning you will have to look into it, if the lounge was the other way round you will have a view into the site. Possibly they assume a caravan that size has so
    much room you do not need an awning.

  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2016 #18

    Good news at last, the materials have been received by the dealer to replace the floor so just got to wait for a date for it to go into the workshop.  They think it will take 3 dasys of workshop time.

  • anothersunrise
    anothersunrise Forum Participant Posts: 264
    edited October 2016 #19

    Has anyone seen the new Alaria range from Lunar launching at the NEC - 3 models all twin axle all priced £32499 looks a serious piece of kit.

    The big mistake for me is that front lounge faces the wrong side. Essentially if you put up an awning you will have to look into it, if the lounge was the other way round you will have a view into the site. Possibly they assume a caravan that size has so
    much room you do not need an awning.

    Write your comments here...we didn't like the tall side window. Thought it looked like a travellers van. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #20

    Has anyone seen the new Alaria range from Lunar launching at the NEC - 3 models all twin axle all priced £32499 looks a serious piece of kit.

    The big mistake for me is that front lounge faces the wrong side. Essentially if you put up an awning you will have to look into it, if the lounge was the other way round you will have a view into the site. Possibly they assume a caravan that size has so
    much room you do not need an awning.

    Write your comments here...we didn't like the tall side window. Thought it looked like a travellers van. 

    With an L shaped lounge you will always get that window. We have had two of these lounges and both had that window although one was far deeper than the other. It is how you spot them on site.

  • SurreySimon
    SurreySimon Forum Participant Posts: 18
    edited October 2016 #21

    Sorry to hear of your problems with your Venus. I think you have just been unlucky. You have to remember that unlike cars, caravan construction is very labour intensive, they are assembled by hand. we are on our second Lunar a 2015 model and no problems
    apart from the Dometic fridge (not Lunar's build issue) but another story of really awful disinterested after sales service by Dometic, and a fridge with an in built design fault. In 2005 we bought a new Swift Challenger and it was a nightmare almost ruined
    our main holiday which was island hopping in Croatia, thanks to the Caravan Club Red Pennant major problems with the road lights got temporarily sorted out in Germany. We had a list of problems that were so long, I part exchanged it for a new Coachman at the
    end of it's first season. I lost a lot of money, but couldn't stand the stress every time we went away as something else broke or fell off! My advice would be to get rid of it, take the hit on the depreciation and move on to another new caravan. However, I
    think all makes UK or foreign are the same, you can get a duff one, but in general British built vans are amongst the best in Europe for build, spec and value don't be fooled into thinking everything German is wonderful.. It's a myth!

  • Mkubwa
    Mkubwa Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited March 2018 #22

    An addition to the caravan story about the Lunar in the original post. In hindsight I should have chopped it in as soon as things started going wrong - they still are:

    bulkhead screws came undone

    front window cracked

    heating element packed up

    water ingress where front bulkhead meets roof and down the sides 

    water ingress in the rear bathroom

    Just back from a trip to the New Forest at the Centenary site (excellent stay) and had to drop the caravan off for more repairs on the way home. 

    Seriously this caravan is not fit for purpose and has been a complete waste of money, time and unnecessary heartache. 18 month’s ownership and it is back at the dealers for the 5th time having repairs. A complete joke. 

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2018 #23

    You certainly have been unlucky, only trouble I have had has been screws into hinges overtightened and lost the thread, had to infill with matchsticks laughing

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  • Tigi
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    edited March 2018 #25

    Our caravan is parked on a drive which results in the caravan sloping to the rear offside corner water never "sits"on the roof around skylights or along awning rails, I have a long piece of rubber about a foot deep fitted at the awning rail at the corner which directs the water clear of the caravan side. So far the two Lunars we have owned at this address over five years have not had damp issues. 

  • Mkubwa
    Mkubwa Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited March 2018 #26

    I store the caravan on our drive with it sloping forwards so as to prevent water pooling on the roof. The problem is that the joint between the front bulkhead cowling and the roof had apparently an inferior joint (which I am told has been modified on subsequent models) whereby the screws were insufficient for the job and possibly not enough sealant put in. There is a replacement strapping that joins the two more effectively - with lots of sealer. 

    Having slept on the problem I now have no option but to have a meeting with the directors of the dealership to find a way forward. The anxiety of ownership is playing on my mind to much and I have no peace of mind as to what will go wrong next. 

    Unfortunately my first caravan ownership experience has not been the best, memories are not of happy holidays but of what has gone wrong or broken. This is not what caravaning is all about. 

     

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2018 #27

    not good Mkubwa. I sent a damming e-mail to lunar and threatened them with legal action, as been waiting for the new floor to arrive so repair can be done. the damp 60% was spotted first week in December, over 3 months. got a reply that they have just received new floor and ready for delivery to repair company on Monday 19/03. fingers crossed it will go in sometime next week but think I will be going through all this again in 9 months after next service. also sent email to the NCC to say that they should be doing more for the customer not the dealer/manufacturer. yet to hear back from them. I am disgusted at the whole caravan industry and them lazy sods that control it. rant over.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #28

    Not sure what the point of threatening Lunar with legal action is as I cannot see that they have any legal obligation towards you.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #29

    I’m voting with my cash, won’t be buying another Lunar

  • ct955
    ct955 Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited March 2018 #30

    We have had the same water ingress problems as many other Venus owners. Ours was a 2016. We have sold it back to the dealer as we don't want the aggro of repeated repairs. Bought another make in hope of better things.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #31

    Which is pretty much what I did with Swift