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  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited March 2016 #32

    I spoke to both Bailey and WSL at the show, and both advised that the same bolts are used on both alloys and steel spare with the same torque,and there is plenty of room in the hubs to take the extra "length" when useing the thinner steel spare wheel ,

    And the Milenco telltales also fit the WSL bolts,so still no requirement to check torque ,just a quick glance is all thats needed 

    In the case of both my Hymers the WSL would not be suitable for use on the spherically seated steel wheels, but note their reply was re Baileys.

    Tell-tales in no way off-set the need to check the torque, the tension can relax in the bolting long before a tell-tale shows a bolt to have turned.

    Thankfully due to the much better energy retention that the WSLs have, the tension is that much less likely to have relaxed to dangerous levels, if fitted correctly.

    Write your comments here...If a bolt "relaxes" it must have turned? which is what telltales are for and as fittted 

  • Trepanner
    Trepanner Forum Participant Posts: 33
    edited March 2016 #33

    Like checking tyre pressues checking wheel bolts for me (albeit perhaps not as frequent) is good practice and given I have experienced a wheel coming off my caravan many moons ago it is not something I want ever to experience again so armed with a decent
    torque wrench it takes little time to satisfy my, perhaps, overly cautious attitude.

  • RichardPitman
    RichardPitman Forum Participant Posts: 127
    edited March 2016 #34

    From my Ford handbook. Car is fitted with alloy wheels, but has a steel space saver spare.

    " Do not install alloy wheels using wheel nuts designed for use with steel wheels.

    Note: The wheel nuts of alloy wheels and spoked steel wheels can also be used for the steel spare wheel for a short time (maximum two weeks)."

    Sufficient to 'get you home', I'd say.

    Same torque setting (96ft lbs) specified for all wheel types.

     

  • ocsid
    ocsid Forum Participant Posts: 1,395
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    edited March 2016 #35

     

    Write your comments here...If a bolt "relaxes" it must have turned? which is what telltales are for and as fittted 

    Not true unfortunately, any give in the clamped surfaced which includes within the threads causes relaxing of the tension in the bolt. The reality is they only start to turn when that tension becomes very low indeed. The best the indicators tell you is that
    one or so bolts have come so loose to have turned; with just 5 on a caravan that is leaving it far too close. With 12 plus bolts they are a bit of use.

  • Trepanner
    Trepanner Forum Participant Posts: 33
    edited March 2016 #36

    From my Ford handbook. Car is fitted with alloy wheels, but has a steel space saver spare.

    " Do not install alloy wheels using wheel nuts designed for use with steel wheels.

    Note: The wheel nuts of alloy wheels and spoked steel wheels can also be used for the steel spare wheel for a short time (maximum two weeks)."

    Sufficient to 'get you home', I'd say.

    Same torque setting (96ft lbs) specified for all wheel types.

     

    Write your comments here...Interesting that. A couple of weeks ago I had a puncture and went to fit my 'steel' normal size spare and was looking for the bolts to use given I had in my mind that the alloy bolts would be a no-go however when all else failed
    I checked the handbook which confirmed that I should use the same bolts but at a lower torque setting hey ho when all else fails and as a certain actor would say "read the bl**dy handbook" well if were not a man with some 58 years of motoring experience behind
    me I might just have done that in the first place....

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited March 2016 #37

     .......Interesting that. A couple of weeks ago I had a puncture and went to fit my 'steel' normal size spare and was looking for the bolts to use given I had in my mind that the alloy bolts would be a no-go
    however when all else failed I checked the handbook which confirmed that I should use the same bolts but at a lower torque setting hey ho when all else fails and as a certain actor would say "read the bl**dy handbook" well if were not a man with some 58 years
    of motoring experience behind me I might just have done that in the first place....

    Different manufactures & different wheels makes the difference. My last few cars (all big Vauxhalls have used the same bolts for the alloys wheels as for the steel spare. My current Merc uses shorter bolts for the steel spare than for the normal alloys.
    My neighbour's Peugeot uses the same bolts for both, however they have two shoulders on them, one for the alloy & the other for the steel space saver spare.

    And I think the phrase you were looking for is RTFM Innocent

  • davebakerpurton
    davebakerpurton Forum Participant Posts: 69
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    edited March 2016 #38

    They sell just about every wheel bolt size/head angle

    http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/wheel-nuts-bolts/grayston-wheel-bolt

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