Paintseal Direct Protection

derekbarrier
derekbarrier Forum Participant Posts: 14
edited December 2015 in Caravans #1

I have a new Bailey van due in the new year. 

Am considering whether to have the aintSeal Direct teflon coating applied. 

Any experience of its' effctivness from others who have had it please?? 

Thanks

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2015 #2

    Expensive but very happy with its effectivenes. We would certainly have it done on any future new van. It makes it very easy to clean the van and even most black streaks easily wipe off. Through the summer months the occasional thunderstorm usually washes
    most of the grime off, meaning all you have to do is wipe off with a damp micro fibre cloth and some clean water to have a gleaming van. Ours also included treatment of the upholstery and carpets. Any marks or spills on these have easily washed off.

  • paul56
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    edited December 2015 #3

    Not had it done on a 'van but have had similar on cars in the past - suggest you haggle with the price. We did get loads off. May be guessing but if I remember right it started around £300 and ended up well less than half.

  • TheAdmiral
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    edited December 2015 #4

    As SteveL says, expenive but worth it, they also do the interior upholstery. Whilst they were doing the van I asked them to do the car as well as both of them were new at the time. Less bother washing the van/car dirt seems t slide off.

    Another company that has rave reviews is Tourershine, maybe worth having a look on their web site

    Admiral

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited December 2015 #5

    These paint/upholstery protection systems are huge revenue and commission earners for dealers for something that costs a few quid. Shop around the internet for the best price and get your dealer to price match, if not get it done elsewhere. They wont like
    it but it's your money you are spending, not theirs.....

  • richardandros
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    edited December 2015 #6

    I've had a couple of cars done with a similar product in the past.  Don't know if I was expecting too much but found that after a few months the 'protection' seem to disappear.  Since then, I have always given new cars two or three coats of Auto Glym, finished
    off with the resin sealer.  This seems to be just as good at a fraction of the price.  Did the same to our new Bailey and it's still gleaming after almost a year.

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited December 2015 #7

    Waste of money

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2015 #8

    Waste of money

    Would be interested as to why you think it a waste of money. Did the product not perform to your expectations? Our still seems to be working well at 2 years.

  • stephen p
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    edited December 2015 #9

    Waste of money

    Would be interested as to why you think it a waste of money. Did the product not perform to your expectations? Our still seems to be working well at 2 years.

    Same here

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited January 2016 #10

    I knew somebody that sold it..complete con emperer's new clothes and all that, stick to auto glym sorry

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2016 #11

    Well I can only comment from personal experience and we would have it applied to any new van we may buy. I'm not desputing there may be cheaper ways of getting it done than by the selling dealer, that's just convenience. On our old van we did use one of
    the polymer polishes. Yes it did work to some extent, but was nowhere near as effective as the paint seal.

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited January 2016 #12

    Not saying it does not do anything... But when he was selling brand new audi cars an extra 300/400 quid on top of 25000 quid car was an easy after sell, ( you want to look after your car don't you sir) but in truth he was buying it in at £10 a bottle now
    a bad turn around, use auto glum it cheaper and better

  • TheAdmiral
    TheAdmiral Forum Participant Posts: 506
    edited January 2016 #13

    Well I can only comment from personal experience and we would have it applied to any new van we may buy. I'm not desputing there may be cheaper ways of getting it done than by the selling dealer, that's just convenience. On our old van we did use one of
    the polymer polishes. Yes it did work to some extent, but was nowhere near as effective as the paint seal.

    I'm with you Steve, Paintseal is a great product and have had it on our last two vans and will have it on the third should we change

    Admiral

  • EJB986
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    edited January 2016 #14

    Everybody who has used it say it's fantastic.

    Everybody who hasn't used it say it's rubbish.

    Is that 'an unbiased report'????

  • TheShipmans
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    edited January 2016 #15

    Had it applied to current car, as previous one suffered from staining to upholstery from spillages. No noticeable benefit either inside or outside. Wouldn't bother again. New Baileys with fibreglass bodywork very easy to clean compared with aluminium. 

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2016 #16

    It was included as a package on a new car I bought, thought it was great at first but after a few washes I can honestly say it didn't convince me that it really made much of a difference.  

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2016 #17

    Had it applied to current car, as previous one suffered from staining to upholstery from spillages. No noticeable benefit either inside or outside. Wouldn't bother again. New Baileys with fibreglass bodywork very easy to clean compared with aluminium. 

    If there was no noticeable benefit I  would begin to question if it was applied or not. When we had it on our new X Trail  18 months ago, there was very much a noticeable difference. All the dust and pollen you get during the summer months, just washed off
    in any significant rain, leaving a shiny vehicle.  At 18 months it is still working, although in winter it just makes it easier to clean.

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited January 2016 #18

    The main benefit is for the dealer, throw it for free £300/£400 worth it ,bargain

  • Tigi
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    edited January 2016 #19

    Are you sure this paint seal is`nt just Fenwicks Bobby Dazzler in a different bottle?

  • TheAdmiral
    TheAdmiral Forum Participant Posts: 506
    edited January 2016 #20

    It was included as a package on a new car I bought, thought it was great at first but after a few washes I can honestly say it didn't convince me that it really made much of a difference.  

    Don't you find that the dirt just slides off, sometimes I just stick the hose on it and it's sparkling

    Admiral

  • TheAdmiral
    TheAdmiral Forum Participant Posts: 506
    edited January 2016 #21

    Are you sure this paint seal is`nt just Fenwicks Bobby Dazzler in a different bottle?

    Definitley not, tried the Fenwicks product which is good, but not as good as Paintseal

    Admiral

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2016 #22

    It was included as a package on a new car I bought, thought it was great at first but after a few washes I can honestly say it didn't convince me that it really made much of a difference.

    Don't you find that the dirt just slides off, sometimes I just stick the hose on it and it's sparklingly

    Admiral

    Write your comments here...I guess I would have needed to buy two identical cars, one with and one without and exposed them to the same conditions and cleaning regime to prove or disprove this. Initially it did appear good and I had hoped it was a given and a real noticeable difference would be noticed for at least a couple of years but I do not 'think' it did.

  • L Bradley
    L Bradley Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2016 #23

    Hi, I purchased a new Bailey pursuit in Feb last year - it's gone for 1st service to find 30% damp in the toilet area - BEFORE handing over any money I would demand a damp test at the time of purchased and be allowed to see the readings for yourself as I
    now have the problem of water which has reached the plywood floor and the dealer say's that with the Alu-tec bodies thay cannot say for certain if the remedial work they have done has resolved the issue as they cannot tell exaclty where the leak is coming
    from.

  • JohnM20
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    edited February 2016 #24

    I've always considered that if these treatments were so good then car manufacturers and similar would apply them at the point of manufacture when the cost would be minimal. The same goes for oil additives that are offered at an extortionate cost when the
    car goes in for service. I'm sure that, as has been mentioned earlier, £300 for Diamond Brite or similar, when sold when handing over many thousands of pounds for the new car, doesn't seem very much but, in my opinion, is totally money for nothing.

    I use both Bobby Dazzler or Demon Shine both of which seem to make the car and / or caravan easier to clean especially after these treatments have been applied two or three times. They are both very cheap to use. I have found that the most convenient way
    of using them is to make up a solution in a spray bottle. A one litre spray bottle of the diluted solution is enough to do the car about five times.

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #25

    When I bought my Lexus RX I had Diamond Bright applied. As far as I am concerned it was a complete waste of money, a regular application of Autoglym suits me fine and the vehicle looks good also.

  • DICE
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    edited April 2016 #26

    Hi, I purchased a new Bailey pursuit in Feb last year - it's gone for 1st service to find 30% damp in the toilet area - BEFORE handing over any money I would demand a damp test at the time of purchased and be allowed to see the readings for yourself as I
    now have the problem of water which has reached the plywood floor and the dealer say's that with the Alu-tec bodies thay cannot say for certain if the remedial work they have done has resolved the issue as they cannot tell exaclty where the leak is coming
    from.

    Write your comments here...just had my first servie on my bailey pursuit 530 45% water ingress around shower area floor & wet locker area under fixed bed will be contacting bailey caravans today.

  • Wayne and Judie Seaborn
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    edited April 2016 #27

    Amazed by the attitude of some members, just about to have our new 2ndnew van in a row done. It saves polishing, well for those of us that care about standards of appearance. It makes streaks just wipe off and for £500 its a bargin on a £25k new caravan.

    For those who sugest its Fenwicks they ned to see the application process. First the van is rewashed with a active cleaner (just watch what comes off) then the Paitnt Seal is applied with a small linen pad as the liquid fills the paint pores, too much aplied
    and it leaves crystals which are had to remove. Its then polished. Guess its about a days work. For for those who think its Bobby Dazzler simply get real and remain in a sad looking caravan or motorhomes or read up on the science !! 

  • Surfer
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    edited April 2016 #28

    Amazed by the attitude of some members, just about to have our new 2ndnew van in a row done. It saves polishing, well for those of us that care about standards of appearance. It makes streaks just wipe off and for £500 its a bargin on a £25k new caravan.

    For those who sugest its Fenwicks they ned to see the application process. First the van is rewashed with a active cleaner (just watch what comes off) then the Paitnt Seal is applied with a small linen pad as the liquid fills the paint pores, too much aplied
    and it leaves crystals which are had to remove. Its then polished. Guess its about a days work. For for those who think its Bobby Dazzler simply get real and remain in a sad looking caravan or motorhomes or read up on the science !! 

    You may have noticed that all the averse commenst coem from people who have never had the Paintseal application done, but can offer expert opinions.

    If we got a new caravan without doubt we would have the Paintseal application done as have not read any bad commenst by people who have had it applied.

  • coachmanbutch
    coachmanbutch Forum Participant Posts: 38
    edited May 2016 #29

    My 2012 Coachman VIP 460 we purchase just a year ago, has had the Paintseal treatment. Cleaning is dead easy and the roof gets none of the green algi that all my other vans have had. In a year of ownership I have cleaned the roof twice just washes off apart
    from the two solar panels, not  treated, do need a bit of rubbing. The rest of the van is simply a quick hose and shammy down.

  • DSB
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    edited May 2016 #30

    There appears to be two different coatings that paintseal can apply: Teflon or ceramic.  For those who have had the paintseal treatment on the outside, it may be worth saying which treatment you have had.

    David 

  • MJ730
    MJ730 Forum Participant Posts: 184
    edited May 2016 #31

    Just had my new van done by Tourershine.It doesn't realy look much different,but may be a bit shinyer, but it definitely feels much smoother.He also pointed out where a couple of repairs had been done that I hadn't noticed and even improved the paintwork
    on them before treatment.Very pleased with it.

    Mike