Bonfire night

IanH
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edited November 2016 in General Chat #1

While getting the caravan ready for setting off this morning, I found the remnants of a firework in tbe back garden. Then I found a rocket in the narrow gap at the side of the caravan - it may well have bounced off the caravan (probably did). Then I found
another rocket embeded in the lawn.

Surely it's time that the nonsense of selling these incendiary devices to irresponsible people must end.

Ban firework sales, I say.

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  • Jood
    Jood Forum Participant Posts: 120
    edited November 2016 #2

    I think it's time they were only sold to organised displays, for use on 5th November (and maybe New Year's Eve) only

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    edited November 2016 #3
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  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited November 2016 #4

    I think it's time they were only sold to organised displays, for use on 5th November (and maybe New Year's Eve) only

    ...And all the other "festivals" that cannot be "disriminated" againstWinkUndecided

  • G Cherokee
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    edited November 2016 #5

    Ban them,

    Ban them all for everything!, 

    It`ll stop idiots using them to cause damage and mischief.

    They upset animals, some of them are faulty, and it tears me up when kids are hurt when they have been doing nothing but attending others to watch.

    As previously stated the are incendairy devices, you know, like small bombs.

    Ban them I say! ban them all!

    (Yes I know they`ve been around for centuries, but I still want them banned)

  • redface
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    edited November 2016 #6

    Sorry to be contrary but I rather like them. Reminds meof years gone by and all the fun that was to be had as a nipper.

    No - I disagree and say keep them.

     

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  • Rubytuesday
    Rubytuesday Forum Participant Posts: 952
    edited November 2016 #8

    I agree only sell to registered displays, and no foreign imports, these imports legal or not we're on sale around our area, large boxes enormous fireworks writing/ instructions not in English much much cheaper than legal shop stock, no wonder strapped cash
    parents are tempted, safety !!! sorry to say goes out the window as for bonfire NIGHT   More like bonfire 2 months Yell

  • Hakinbush
    Hakinbush Forum Participant Posts: 286
    edited November 2016 #9

    I wouldnt ban em, but Ive often thought how rockets are fired up in the sky by normally law abiding fathers without any cares where they might land or what damage they do but would be aghast at a child firing a cattapoult into the sky  with the same abandon..

  • Whittakerr
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    edited November 2016 #10

    I’m not in favour of a ban. My family spent a very enjoyable couple of hours on Saturday night in the garden with a small fire, some fireworks and a few games.

    As with most things in life there is always some inherent risk, but if used responsibly and with care the risk can be greatly reduced.

  • volvoman9
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    edited November 2016 #11

    In my view we should not ban fireworks as many people enjoy them and it would just be a case of the majority penalised for the behaviour of the minority.Now as regards who they are sold to i,m not sure what would be best.We have to balance the issue without
    seeming to encroach on peoples freedom of choice.Its always going to be a difficult one.I dont agree with smokeing for instance but i would not vote to ban the sales of cigarettes.Just an example.

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  • tigerfish
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    edited November 2016 #12

    I suspect that G Cherokee"s post was a bit "tongue in cheek", but I do think that we are in danger of becoming a   "I dont like it so lets ban it"  Society.

    TF

  • tombar
    tombar Forum Participant Posts: 408
    edited November 2016 #13

    I love them.  My mum and dad would buy me and my two brothers a box of fireworks each and we would light them (under their supervision of course), and this led us to be responsible and know how to handle them properly.  To be truthful, fireworks are much
    safer now than they used to be - remember rip-raps, they would jump about on the floor, then there was another which had a (very small) wooden handle that you could hold - no stepping away for 100 yards when lighting the blue touch paperHappy

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited November 2016 #14

    I’m not in favour of a ban. My family spent a very enjoyable couple of hours on Saturday night in the garden with a small fire, some fireworks and a few games.

    As with most things in life there is always some inherent risk, but if used responsibly and with care the risk can be greatly reduced.

    How do you fire a burning rocket, filled with explosive material that burns at an extremely high temperature, into the air, with no means of controlling it, responsibly then? 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2016 #15

    I’m not in favour of a ban. My family spent a very enjoyable couple of hours on Saturday night in the garden with a small fire, some fireworks and a few games.

    As with most things in life there is always some inherent risk, but if used responsibly and with care the risk can be greatly reduced.

    How do you fire a burning rocket, filled with explosive material that burns at an extremely high temperature, into the air, with no means of controlling it, responsibly then? 

    Ian, your logic can't be faulted nor disputed. That's exactly what happens.

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited November 2016 #16

    Thank you, Rocky. Smile

  • trellis
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    edited November 2016 #17

    I wouldn't want a blanket ban , but some of the imported fireworks need a closer inspection by trading standards . Some I've seen and definitely heard wouldn't be out of place on a artillery range .

  • redface
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    edited November 2016 #18

    The thing about a rocket soaring into the air is that, whllst being powered by "explosive material that burns at an extremely high temperature," on the way up, it is merely a hollow cardboard tube plus a small stick on the way down that is not on fire. OK
    so maybe a small dent in the caravan roof but that, I suspect, rarely happens.  

  • trellis
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    edited November 2016 #19

    The thing about a rocket soaring into the air is that, whllst being powered by "explosive material that burns at an extremely high temperature," on the way up, it is merely a hollow cardboard tube plus a small stick on the way down that is not on fire. OK
    so maybe a small dent in the caravan roof but that, I suspect, rarely happens.  

    Write your comments here...Not so sure about "merely a hollow cardboard tube".My neighbours had one smash and burn it's way through their conservatory roof .

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2016 #20

    There was a case of this local to me as well so not as rare as might be supposed.

  • Hakinbush
    Hakinbush Forum Participant Posts: 286
    edited November 2016 #21

    And you wouldnt want your old granny to get hit on the head with one either..

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited November 2016 #22

    The thing about a rocket soaring into the air is that, whllst being powered by "explosive material that burns at an extremely high temperature," on the way up, it is merely a hollow cardboard tube plus a small stick on the way down that is not on fire. OK
    so maybe a small dent in the caravan roof but that, I suspect, rarely happens.  

    A dent in my caravan roof, due to someone's irresponsible behaviour is acceptable then?

    Strange values.........

  • G Cherokee
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    edited November 2016 #23

    The thing about a rocket soaring into the air is that, whllst being powered by "explosive material that burns at an extremely high temperature," on the way up, it is merely a hollow cardboard tube plus a small stick on the way down that is not on fire. OK
    so maybe a small dent in the caravan roof but that, I suspect, rarely happens.  

    Write your comments here...

    We went to discount warehouse last weekend and there was a massive array of fireworks on display for sale.

    There was a rocket, I bet it was 2mtrs long and the business end was the size of a 2ltr pop bottle!!

    I thought, where in gods name are you going to find a milk bottle for that!!

  • brue
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    edited November 2016 #24

    Not to mention the thatched roofs in our village that it might land on (they don't all go up vertically as intended!) Sad