School holiday now?
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No they are not they get paid holidays during those five weeks, its in their contract, that is what they are entittled to. Our contract does not have any mention of holidays, only working 195 days, that is all we're paid for. we could get other employment
if we so wished or simply do nothing.Listen just because you left school with so few qualifications, don't let it get to you, you've not done too bad, of course if you hadn't played truant to listen to American pie (which you confessed to) you might have done better.
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to make things worse barnsley council are now taking about cutting the summer holidays down to five weeks from six , Some people have enough trouble getting there holiday dates as it is. cutting the hols will make it even harder. when I was woking always
had to take my two out of school on the last week of term becuase of getting holiday dates at work. of course last week of term nobody did much in school so never hd any hassle malc0 -
No they are not they get paid holidays during those five weeks, its in their contract, that is what they are entittled to. Our contract does not have any mention of holidays, only working 195 days, that is all we're paid for.
we could get other employment if we so wished or simply do nothing.Listen just because you left school with so few qualifications, don't let it get to you, you've not done too bad, of course if you hadn't played truant to listen to American pie (which you confessed to) you might have done better.
I sincerely doubt it.
No, I don't let it get to me. I have no complaints about what I was paid.......you seem rather bitter and just a little too keen to impress though. Should have tried for a proper job, maybe? You can but dream........
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No they are not they get paid holidays during those five weeks, its in their contract, that is what they are entittled to. Our contract does not have any mention of holidays, only working 195 days, that is all we're paid for.
we could get other employment if we so wished or simply do nothing.Listen just because you left school with so few qualifications, don't let it get to you, you've not done too bad, of course if you hadn't played truant to listen to American pie (which you confessed to) you might have done better.
I sincerely doubt it.
No, I don't let it get to me. I have no complaints about what I was paid.......you seem rather bitter and just a little too keen to impress though. Should have tried for a proper job, maybe? You can but dream........
you're repeating yourself Ian you made the same point on page 11 (that's in binary) maybe your memory is failing. I'm not sure what a proper job is, or how it's measured. All I know is that thanks to my advice given to me my my dad about finding a job that
you love I really have never worked a day in my life.0 -
No they are not they get paid holidays during those five weeks, its in their contract, that is what they are entittled to. Our contract does not have any mention of holidays, only working 195 days, that is all we're paid for. we could get other employment if we so wished or simply do nothing.
Listen just because you left school with so few qualifications, don't let it get to you, you've not done too bad, of course if you hadn't played truant to listen to American pie (which you confessed to) you might have done better.
I sincerely doubt it.
No, I don't let it get to me. I have no complaints about what I was paid.......you seem rather bitter and just a little too keen to impress though. Should have tried for a proper job, maybe? You can but dream........
you're repeating yourself Ian you made the same point on page 11 (that's in binary) maybe your memory is failing. I'm not sure what a proper job is, or how it's measured. All I know is that thanks to my advice given to me my my dad about finding a job that you love I really have never worked a day in my life.
Write your comments here Surprisingly .I really believe your last sentence Corners .Thanks for being so honest.-------- There we have yet another positive friendly and adult discussion . Its good to discuss with a proper knowledegable school.teacher.
K
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Political correctness in Schools-one of the latest diktats has decreed the word 'gullible' should no longer be used & has been replaced by the word-'innocent'
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Political correctness in Schools-one of the latest diktats has decreed the word 'gullible' should no longer be used & has been replaced by the word-'innocent'
some people will believe anything
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It's official!!!
Corners has never worked a day of his life!
Thanks for the confirmation of what we had long thought, old friend.
No I haven't, depends on your definition of work of course. You don't do 'work' when you love your job, I'm lucky but I feel sorry for people like you that didn't and saw each day as 'work'! How did you drag yourself out of bed, oh yes, of course for the money, seems a poor way to live your working life
As my instructor used to say - its seems a shame to draw the flying pay today
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Good post, Corners, and I think it sums up the whole debate superbly. Those of us who have spent the best part of 40 years in teaching didn't do it for the pay or the holidays. We did it because we saw it as a vocation; we were proud of what we were doing, making a difference to young lifes. It was a vocation we loved and the testament to our success is the number of former students who still keep in touch today, long after they moved on.
I feel rather sorry for those who didn't experience the same joy from their working lives. Some are so up tight about it they won't even admit to others what they did for a living!
Still, we must treat them with respect since we probably know as little about what their work involved as they do about ours!
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Good post, Corners, and I think it sums up the whole debate superbly. Those of us who have spent the best part of 40 years in teaching didn't do it for the pay or the holidays. We did it because we saw it as a vocation; we were proud of what we were doing,
making a difference to young lifes. It was a vocation we loved and the testament to our success is the number of former students who still keep in touch today, long after they moved on.I feel rather sorry for those who didn't experience the same joy from their working lives. Some are so up tight about it they won't even admit to others what they did for a living!
Still, we must treat them with respect since we probably know as little about what their work involved as they do about ours!
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Very true there Mr M. Many a time I've been somewhere busy, shopping centre, football matches... and my old pupils have come up and said hello and some even say how I actually changed their lives, sometimes by teaching by them going on to further study which
they had never considered, sometimes by sorting out their home problems. We are very lucky.0 -
Oh dear, - have you not heard the phrase " self praise is no honour."
Still I suppose that if nobody else will, its the only way that people in boring uninteresting jobs can hear any good comments.
On the radio,this morning there was a discussion about a council somewhere in yorkshire, (Barnsley I think) who have come to the conclusion that the long school holidays are having a detrimental effect on children's education and have started to address
this by shortening the summer break. A step in the right direction obviously. I did enjoy the discussion as we drove to the garden centre, especially the contributions from knowlegable people who were agreeing that the current school holidays should be greatly
reduced. Something I have been saying for years.K
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You're a bit behind the curve on that one, K.
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Barnsley (if you look back I brought this subject up a few pages ago) are not reducing school holidays, they're simply shortening the summer break and lengthening the October half term. When it was reported on TV several days ago (it's not a new story) they interviewed some parents - what was the first response they got? "Oh well I'll just take my children out of school in July anyway"!
Secondly, and not for the first time, it seems you are contradicting yourself - if teachers don't express pride and enjoyment in what they do you condemn them and if they do you call it "self praise".
Of course, in all the debates we've had about this over the years, you yourself have never made it clear what your working life comprised - did you enjoy it? Were you successful? Did you have a sense of pride in what you achieved? It would be nice to now more than just "private sector". We could then heap praise on you and move on from this constant obsession of yours (which I'm guessing by now is far more of a wind-up than a serious attempt to debate issues!)
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You're a bit behind the curve on that one, K.
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Barnsley (if you look back I brought this subject up a few pages ago) are not
reducing school holidays, they're simply shortening the summer break and
lengthening the October half term. When it was reported on TV several days ago (it's not a new story) they interviewed some parents - what was the first response they got? "Oh well I'll just take my children out of school in July anyway"!Secondly, and not for the first time, it seems you are contradicting yourself - if teachers don't express pride and enjoyment in what they do you condemn them and if they do you call it "self praise".
Of course, in all the debates we've had about this over the years, you yourself have never made it clear what your working life comprised - did you enjoy it? Were you successful? Did you have a sense of pride in what you achieved? It would be nice to now
more than just "private sector". We could then heap praise on you and move on from this constant obsession of yours
(which I'm guessing by now is far more of a wind-up than a serious attempt to debate issues!)yes me too
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When someone is not open with me about what their jobs were in life I am forced to asume that they spent years in eith a penal or a psychiatric institution and as a precaution I treat them accordingly.
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When someone is not open with me about what their jobs were in life I am forced to asume that they spent years in eith a penal or a psychiatric institution and as a precaution I treat them accordingly.
Of course, they could just be too embarrassed to let folk know. Nothing wrong with that, of course - not everyone can be one of life's achievers!
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When someone is not open with me about what their jobs were in life I am forced to asume that they spent years in eith a penal or a psychiatric institution and as a precaution I treat them accordingly.
Write your comments here...Hi Nav, When I was interviewing prospective job applicants and there were unexplained gaps in their employment record , that was something I was obliged to consider. HOWEVER -
This forum, quite rightly does not require that its members give out personal details like their past employment, their shoe size, how much money they have in the bank, how much they are earning, or the last time they gave money to charity as a requirement of membership. If it ever becomes a requirement I would expect a rapid diminution in forum members
IMO If anybody chooses to boast about their job all over the internet, then they should not complain when others discuss or are critical of that type of work.
As I have so often said on this forum, I am a pensioner Thats my job and that's what I get paid for.
K
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As this thread has, for several pages, become an area of wind up posting, rather than start the task of deleting numerous posts,I'm suspending it and asking our Community Manager to consider its future.
Many thanks.
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