When I got home
today when i got home after 9 hours of work , i washed up 7 cups , 5 pint Glasses , one baking tray ,enough cutlery to feed 5 people , brought the washing in off the line , brought the bin in off the road side , oh yes , got washed and changed first ! prepped
tonights tea , now cooking it , had one cuppa , three of us live at home all over the age of 24 ! and some for us parents 
but one
of us got home around 9am after starting work at 5am ,then sat watching tv until 3pm when he went back to work GGGGRRRRR , before you say it is not me or Helen , must admit the boy is looking at his options to move out . 
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Just tell him that them as don't work don't eat and then offer to help him pack Golly.
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i must admit he is very keen to move out but can not afford to right now ,it would mean a large cash input from his girlfriend too , we do fly off the handle sometimes and he does all you ask of him ,he does help in other ways too like go post things for
me for the farm , let me use his car , takes us to Costco , bought us al the food we need for christmas , and a few other bits , but yes it will be nice when he leaves but strange too , if i have the time i will help him move , just not financially , i can
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They need to learn to look after things before they move out into their own places. When my elder two were at university and stayed at home I cooked tea, did their washing, they had a roof over their heads, food in their belly's but I would not moddle
coddle them. They had to do their own ironing, tidy their rooms, if they were not in when it was our tea time they had to fend for themselves - the exception being if they were working. They both left home when they finished Uni move away and are now fully
self sufficient, can cook, clean and look after themselves and they said it helped that I encouraged them. They have friends who are still staying at home and do not cook, clean or wash their clothes at 28 as their mum still does it! Scary thought. Enourage
said child to start helping around the house in preparation for moving out you will be doing him a favour
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I'd have a quiet word in his ear. I bet you anything it hadn't occurred to him to do it or he hadn't noticed. I've been training my hubby for getting in for 40 years but its amazing what he doesn't see or he was going to do it later. However no one else
is having the benefit of all my training, its still a work in progress! Both of our children, one of each, seem to be the chief organisers and doers in their households -started their training at birth0 -
I'd have a quiet word in his ear. I bet you anything it hadn't occurred to him to do it or he hadn't noticed. I've been training my hubby for getting in for 40 years
but its amazing what he doesn't see or he was going to do it later. However no one else is having the benefit of all my training, its still a work in progress! Both of our children, one of each, seem to be the chief organisers and doers in
their households -started their training at birthNever do anything today that can be put off until tomorrow....or in this case..... laters.......
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I'd have a quiet word in his ear. I bet you anything it hadn't occurred to him to do it or he hadn't noticed. I've been training my hubby for getting in for 40 years
but its amazing what he doesn't see or he was going to do it later. However no one else is having the benefit of all my training, its still a work in progress! Both of our children, one of each, seem to be the chief organisers and doers in
their households -started their training at birthNever do anything today that can be put off until tomorrow....or in this case..... laters.......
I think that's Holly's point in the OP
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My advice is to get a dishwasher.
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It all about how they are bought up
It was made clear as our children grew up, we are their perants not their slaves
After the age of 16 our chidren stopped coming with us, and we never came back to a mess, even after they had mates and friend across for a non party
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A clip round the ear a boot up the backside and scream at him to shift his butt or get out
then after thirty seconds when looking at his pitiful face
and realising he doesn't have a clue what he's done or haven't done as the case
maybe ! Say sorry give him a hug and get on with the chores yourself
there sorted not worth all the stress is it 
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he mostly cooks for him self as he works varied hours ,so it is not often we all eat together , he has one black wall the rest magnolia , he does keep his room tidy ,just does not do much in the line of washing up, we know he knows how because he does it
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No he don't he's kidding you , or you haven't heard of takeaways that comes in carton's or plastic tubs
eating out and paper
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he may be glad to move out!
