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Merve you have put your finger firmly on what ails the Police Service of today. A lack of basic training, not only in the law and the essential points to prove in any court of law, but also proper training in the art of discretion and of dealing with members
of the public who might have with no guilty intent infringed against minor legislation.The service today is failing to carry the public with it, and as a result is creating problems for itself in the future, and is also failing in its responsibilty to the public at large.
I can identify a number of key areas of failure, but as the failings are predominately due to abysmal Home Office and ministerial organisation, it will only result in the thread being pulled!
TF
Write your comments here...Is this forever the truth and problem with many so services and buisnesses today.
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Dont see the problem. The law about number plates is clear enough. Have the plates made up correctly by accredited people and no action will be taken by the forces of law and order. ------------- Simples !!!
What fun is there in that !!
Admiral
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Forgot to mention I have stopped my contributions to The Police Treatment Centres as i am so p----d off with the situation, I have always supported the Police who do a difficult job that would not think of doing ever
Admiral
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Over and Out
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Personally, I can't see the point of personalised registrations.
My registration, as came on the vehicle, is personal to me. Nobody else has that one. It didn't cost me extra to buy it or transfer it.
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I was offered a choice of about 20 numbers by the dealer and told to choose one I could easily remember! THAT very nearly caused me to go elsewhere with my trade - I may be a female of advanced years but I have always remembered the numbers of the car
I own! I nearly asked if they offered the same choice of numbers to male customers!0 -
AP 05 ERS or P 155 OFF
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We still have not had it revealed why the mark was displayed as "MR 13YNG".
If this was a mistake by the plate maker surely there would be some redress to be obtained from them? If it has been requested that the characters be spaced in that manner, then no.
What possible significance could there be in 13YNG? It was stated earlier that it was not a name. YNG is a name though.
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I was offered a choice of about 20 numbers by the dealer and told to choose one I could easily remember! THAT very nearly caused me to go elsewhere with my trade - I may be a female of advanced years but I have always remembered the numbers of the car
I own! I nearly asked if they offered the same choice of numbers to male customers!Don't why you were offended .... I can remember the reg of the car I passed my test in, but have to think what I had for breakfast .... I'm a mid 50's man
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AP 05 ERS or P 155 OFF
or FU 2...
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We still have not had it revealed why the mark was displayed as "MR 13YNG".
If this was a mistake by the plate maker surely there would be some redress to be obtained from them? If it has been requested that the characters be spaced in that manner, then no.
What possible significance could there be in 13YNG? It was stated earlier that it was not a name. YNG is a name though.
Just Google "Battle of Menorca 1757" it will then become clear
Admiral
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Well well !! I've said it before and I'll say it again surprising what oh learn on here , and not always anything to do with caravaning ect
Thank you Admiral Byng
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CBRBlackbird, The problem is that we have a very silly method of vehicle registration! Ask your self what is the purpose of a registration number ? To Identify the vehicle? NO! The vehicle has a VIN no or chassis no to do that!- It is to identify the
owner, so that due process can be sent to him/her in the event of a transgression. Today we are almost the only country that persists with our outdated system.The better way is to register Owners, Not vehicles! So that whatever number you have now is yours for life, and whenever you change your car, you move the number that identifies YOU to the new vehicle. Then everyone has a personalised plate.
Companies have a block of numbers and move them through the fleet as it is renewed etc. The system works very well in the States, Australia New Zealand, Canada, France et etc. So why do we use our stupid and outdated system? I am known for my wishing to
stick to the old ways but even I can see the merit in registering owners Not vehicles! As I said vehicles already have a VIN number which is much more reliable as an identifier of the vehicle!TF
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The other great thing about the French system is that when you insure your car it is the car not the person who is insured. So, any owner can allow anyone without traffic offences to drive their car and still be fully comp insured. Great when family and friends come to stay and want a day out on their own. Its also possible to drive a French car anywhere in the EU for as long as you like without the 30 day or 60 day maximum trip nonsense that UK insurance firms generally insist upon. TF is right. We can learn a lot from our European neighbours on this one.
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AP 05 ERS or P 155 OFF
or FU 2...
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The better way is to register Owners, Not vehicles! So that whatever number you have now is yours for life, and whenever you change your car, you move the number that identifies YOU to the new vehicle. Then everyone has a personalised plate.
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And what about when you have more than one car?
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Simples! You have two - or even more numbers all allocated to you. Some companies can have blocks of several hundred numbers. All registered to that company.
You can have any number of registrations allocated to you. - provided of course that you pay the annual charge!
TF
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Getting back to 13YNG, I'll take a bet that the 1 and 3 on the admirals plate were closer than they should have been. Correct?
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Getting back to 13YNG, I'll take a bet that the 1 and 3 on the admirals plate were closer than they should have been. Correct?
Wrong, the space was between R and 1, apart from that no other changes to the layout, now can you see why I was incenced
Admiral.
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Why pick on the officer. At the end of the day he did not commit the offence!!
What a stupid comment...
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I wonder if the constable concerned had noted this incorrect plate earlier and had done some research on what it might mean (using the "1" and "3" as a "B") and discovered the story of Admiral (not Mister) Byng.
Noting that this individual was executed for not having done his job, in a way that Voltair expressed as
pour encourager les autres, he decided rather wittedly to do just that with the vehicle's driver/owner.0 -
Sadly you are giving the officer credit for too much thought! I suspect that for whatever reason he saw the opportunity to add some more process to his score and went for it. Having been a member of RTD for some time I am aware that officers were monitored
on the amount of process they submitted. Not for any dreadful or black arts reason but merely that there was always a backlog of officers waiting to join the traffic division.Everyone knew that it was a target rich environment out there, so any officer with a poor history of process was a prime target for going back on the beat. So Admiral you might have fallen foul of that scenario.
Only you know in your Heart of Hearts that your number plate was exactly as required, but if it was as you say, perfectly unaltered I really do suggest that you take a picture of it, and submit a complaint to the Forces Professional Standards Dept. I can
assure you that they will look into it properly and if they find in your favour, or even decide that it is in the public interest to do so can quosh the fixed penalty notice!TF
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At least the PC did'nt touch your windows!
I'll sort you out in June Jimbo
..Admiral
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