How can we liven this section up?
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It strikes me that the Champions are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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I think that sometimes what is seen as 'hijacking' a post can be unintentional! After all, most normal conversations 'in the flesh' so to speak can go this way too.....down to 'having a conversation' as opposed to having a 'debate'!
. Maybe a little more tolerance could be useful as after all, the OP has the opportunity to repeat their original post, if necessary, in the same thread! 0 -
TW, Not sure what you meant, but for clarity I certainly was not complaning about JillWJ. Who is always on the ball.
But your comment certainly makes me think that it would have been better if I hadn't raised the subject, and just accepted the fact that "General Chat" today carries little serious interest, compared to a few years ago.
TF
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Agree with you tigerfish, don't contribute as I used to, but what spoils a post for me is half way through someone decides that they want to be centre of attention and posts comments that is not relevant to the thread instead of starting their own post.
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I think that sometimes what is seen as 'hijacking' a post can be unintentional! After all, most normal conversations 'in the flesh' so to speak can go this way too.....down to 'having a conversation' as opposed to having a 'debate'!
. Maybe a little more tolerance could be useful as after all, the OP has the opportunity to repeat their original post, if necessary, in the same thread! Partly cos it's so flaming difficult to find the original thread on this forum.... and some of the threads here eg the one I started FAO ADP 1963 is something that should be done via PM ..... but we still don't have that facility
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I suppose that to make general chat interesting we ought to have a sub section for Poli...., reli.... and comment on how 'the law' demonstrates to one and all, that it is an ass afterall.
The club could point out, to all and sundry, that opinions given therein are members own thoughts and not those of the club. That should keep the legal eagles at bay and stop management from shaking in its boots.
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Totally agree general chat used to include humour, lively debate with differing views that often would enhance your knowledge. Where if we are allowed would we discuss the referendum for example.
Good point H the most important vote for many a year.
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Looks like you have created a lot of interest Tigerfish, 703 views way above any other topic, in a. Very short time.
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Totally agree general chat used to include humour, lively debate with differing views that often would enhance your knowledge. Where if we are allowed would we discuss the referendum for example.
Good point H the most important vote for many a year.
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Write your comments here...Indeed it is, but the forum manager has put a total ban on any reference to politics. As members we either comply with this or go on to another forum where grown up discussion is allowed.
K
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Totally agree general chat used to include humour, lively debate with differing views that often would enhance your knowledge. Where if we are allowed would we discuss the referendum for example.
Surely 'general chat' is just that? Is this not the place for off topic banter and whatnot? Just checking as it is hard to stay on topic on 'serious' threads so one would think this section would be the place to say whatever takes your fancy. Within reason
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Bugs, part of the problem IMHO, seems to be the almost unholy delight that you appear to have in swooping almost immediately on honestly placed GC posts, and then bumping them off into the backwoods where they then whither & die.
That is a shame because I know that is not what you are really about. There really does need to be a liitle more leeway in the way T&C's are interpreted. Nelson demonstrated real leadership when he applied his telescope to his blind eye.
The saying "Regulations are for the guidance of the wise and the rigid adherance of fools" must surely apply here. You are certainly nobody's fool. So lets have a little leeway.
I didn't intend to set such a rabbit running, so I will now exit this thread stage left!
TF
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Bugs, part of the problem IMHO, seems to be the almost unholy delight that you appear to have in swooping almost immediately on honestly placed GC posts, and then bumping them off into the backwoods where they then whither & die.
TF
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As you know, the Champions have been asked to move posts to the correct Forum Section.
A discussion on caravans is more likely to get useful responses if it is in the Caravans Section.
The correct Forum Sections are not "backwoods where they then whither & die" - on the contrary, as I pointed out earlier, those Sections are thriving!
Cheers
Bugs
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"I'm merely pointing out that just because you follow the orders doesn't make them right in the first place."
In life we all have to follow 'orders' otherwise chaos ensues, and if they are not to your liking there is always a road open to ask for change. You want to join the Forum by which you have accepted the T&C's, then decide you don't want to abide by them. Best is to get on your bike and go elsewhere where anarchy reigns.
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Surely a section entitled General Chat is the backwoods of any forum?
Why is there such a fuss about posts being put in the right place? There's an enormous amount of activity outside General Chat.
I for one am glad posts are moved out of this section as there have been some interesting and informative discussions that I would never have seen if they stayed here
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Dave If you have a dinner party do you provide your guests with a set of rules for the after dinner discussions or do you let it flow. I suppose you could provide an agenda that spells out when certain topics can be discussed. The changes to this forum occurred
due to a few antagonists that needed controlling being allowed to disrupt discussions. The T&Cs should have been able to control them so free discusson could continue.0 -
Dave If you have a dinner party do you provide your guests with a set of rules for the after dinner discussions or do you let it flow. I suppose you could provide an agenda that spells out when certain topics can be discussed. The changes to this forum occurred
due to a few antagonists that needed controlling being allowed to disrupt discussions. The T&Cs should have been able to control them so free discusson could continue.Mr H, do you have an open door policy at your dinner partys to allow any passing individual to walk into your Home to listen to your discussions, that is what the CC do with the forum. All discussions on here are public.
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Rocky, I understand fully and would not participate, without knowing any contributions go far beyond the bounds of this forum. My point is that when you have a general discussion the topics vary during the duration and providing someone is not deliberately antagonistic it is fine by me. The difficulty is when somebody expresses something you dislike and not being able to contain yourself. Rocky I have not always agreed with some of your views on topics, but I would defend your right to express them unless you were to make them 'personal' Why is it unacceptable talk about issues like the referendum which is on just about every media format, just because it is politics?
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A radical rethink should take place on this forum.. As the forum is supposed to be about our hobby, We dont need any of the sections under the heading of The Social Room or as it has been described in the past, the AntiSocial room. Just remove them
Those non relevant subjects are superflous to this caravan/motorhome forum. Yes it will reduce greatly the Forum post count but better to have interesting quality posting. Leave the "fluff" for social media sites.
K
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Hi MrH
Rowena has explained the reasoning behind this decision on a number of occasions - here's a recast of a post she added last November:
When launching Club Together the resource was outlined for caravanning and motorhome chat. We are The Caravan Club and that's what the forum is for. The alternative would be not to have a forum at all.
When we did have political and religious debate there were some extrememly offensive comments made and so many heated arguments, which is why The Club asks people to stick to on topic chat. I know there are people that remember this and are grateful
for the decision The Club made. There are other off topic areas of the community but these don't generate arguments or need moderation in the way the religious and political discussions did. We could remove these areas but I don't want us to be cutting off
our nose to spite our face so to speak, but perhaps this is something that needs to be reviewed if poeple do find this confusing.I fully appreciate people enjoy debate and we have explained in great detail many times before why we don't allow this type of discussion to the few that find this frustrating. It's also outlined in the guidelines with explanations as to this decision.
Everyone on the community has agreed to abide by these.As has been pointed out, we are not the only caravanning forum that does not allow this type of topic, however I fully appreciate people want to discuss certain topics which is why I always say, please recommend other forums for this type of debate.
I hope this helps explain. There's not much more I can say on this but appreciate the support from those who have respected and understood the reasoning behind this decision for our caravan online community.
Cheers
Bugs
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Were you not around in the bad old days when such things were discussed, Mr H? Discussions degenerated into slanging matches with insults abounding. People seemed incapable of discussing issues rationally without making matters personal. Topics such as politics and religion were banned because of posters' behaviour. Remember that the forum acts as a shop window for CC.
Edit: Cross posted with you, Bugs.
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Your choice, Mr H. You didnt actually need to return to make the second post.
"Build absent friends"???
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Hi everyone,
Please can I ask that this discussion is free from insults as we have removed a post that caused offence and was reported by members. We need to ensure the conversation is constructive and friendly, regardless of difference of opinion.
I won't go into why we banned political debate as this has been discussed on many occasions in the past and reiterated on this discussion previously, as well as being clearly outlined in the Community Guidelines and FAQs.
I think General Chat may not appear to be as 'lively' as previously because we don't just have the one area to post now like in the past. We created new sections within the social room so people can go directly to what interests them as such discussions
are just not all in one place anymore. This means that General Chat may not seem so active but the Social Room as a whole certainly is still busy with some good conversations for people to get involved with.Mr H, we all very much enjoy your contributions and hope you continue to contribute in other areas of the social room and community.
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It strikes me that the Champions are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
I'm damned if I know what's going on.
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