Drink Drive Scotland
Perhaps it is just me, but how many are aware that the drink limit for Scotland is 50mg/100ml as opposed to the 80mg/100ml which is the law in England.
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Could cause some confusion if you're around the border.
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No tolerance is my view, and the sooner the UK Government pass it as law the better, we will all be a lot safer on the roads
Admiral
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Thanks rk, it won't affect me as I have a zero tolerance to my own drink/driving. The only way to be sure of not losing your license is by not touching a drop of alcohol before driving. Scotland is heading in the right direction
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The new law on drink driving was introduced here in December 2014 and according to the recent figures released the new limit has meant that there has been a notable decrease in people being charged with drink driving so it does seem to be working and many
people I know now impliment there own zero alcohol policy if they are driving which in my view is a good thing.0 -
Perhaps it is just me, but how many are aware that the drink limit for Scotland is 50mg/100ml as opposed to the 80mg/100ml which is the law in England.
...France is the same as Scotland. I think Scotland originally wanted a zero tolerance level but as someone else has said, it had to be set at 50mc/100ml because of the 'morning after' effect for those having a drink the night before.
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Huskydog, bravo! my tipple when driving is lemonade and Lime, - very refreshing.
BUT before we all jump on the bandwagon of demanding lower limits lets just stop and think for a minute on its possible effect on the good old British Pub. They are already suffering and around my immediate area three have closed permanently in the last
twelve months.The British country pub has been part of our history for Centuries and I for one would not like to see them forced out of business.
I think we do need to adhere to Huskydogs credo, but ensure that there remains enough business to keep the pubs open, - and unique in their rural style.
One area that we perhaps aught to follow is the Japanese system of 'Driver Assist". There the Alcohol limit for drivers is Zero %. A group of people will nominate a Duty driver before they go out and that person may only drink soft drinks all night. But
one the odd occasion he/she has a drink, - perhaps by accident, all they need to do is telephone the local taxi company who will send out a very small two seat Suzuki Alto or similar with two qualified drivers in it. When they get to the "distressed Driver"
the spare driver in the Alto will get into the callers car and drive his/her car back to their home, followed by the little Suzuki. When the caller is home with his car and party all safe. The spare driver will get back into the susuki & return to base. The
service is cheap as it is govt sposored and the Suzuke is very economical.TF
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Should be zero tolerance and if your driving next morning don't drink so much where it would be a problem. Personally I think anyone who is caught driving over the limit should be found instantly guilty with attempted murder and anyone who causes death by
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I agree with fur ball. NO Drinking at all Zero tolerance and if you injure mame or kill defiantly should be attempted murder
after all you knowingly get into a care which becomes a lethal weapon if you have been drinking,
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Me and OH too have a no-drink for the driver, so we take turns. But what I would like to know is just because the law has changed and there seems to be hardly any drink-driving about, is it because there are fewer police about now to catch any potential
over the limit drivers. Many times when we've gone out somewhere, even over long distances, I rarely see police cars about
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Huskydog, bravo! my tipple when driving is lemonade and Lime, - very refreshing.
BUT before we all jump on the bandwagon of demanding lower limits lets just stop and think for a minute on its possible effect on the good old British Pub. They are already suffering and around my immediate area three have closed permanently in the last twelve months.
The British country pub has been part of our history for Centuries and I for one would not like to see them forced out of business.
I think we do need to adhere to Huskydogs credo, but ensure that there remains enough business to keep the pubs open, - and unique in their rural style.
One area that we perhaps aught to follow is the Japanese system of 'Driver Assist". There the Alcohol limit for drivers is Zero %. A group of people will nominate a Duty driver before they go out and that person may only drink soft drinks all night. But one the odd occasion he/she has a drink, - perhaps by accident, all they need to do is telephone the local taxi company who will send out a very small two seat Suzuki Alto or similar with two qualified drivers in it. When they get to the "distressed Driver" the spare driver in the Alto will get into the callers car and drive his/her car back to their home, followed by the little Suzuki. When the caller is home with his car and party all safe. The spare driver will get back into the susuki & return to base. The service is cheap as it is govt sposored and the Suzuke is very economical.
TF
Write your comments here...I think that good old English Pub died decades ago. It's very hard to find the one today and then people can't understand why they don't serve food, or coffee! They question why they don't have karaoke or quiz nights! In my day it was darts, skittles, bull ring and pickled eggs in a bag of crisps(with a blue bag of salt inside) which was downed with copious jars of weak beer by today's standards! Many would drive after a night of such 'fun'. These pubs have just changed with the times as have the laws!
Like the idea of the assist drivers mind!
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The Scottish Government has made the right decision on the drink driving limits for our nation.
It has alread changed the driving habits of many people by bringing awareness that with even one drink, a driver could be convicted and sentenced to a year's driving ban and a hefty fine.
This can only reduce accidents and encourage people to adopt a Drinking OR Driving policy.
We will still be a nation of drinkers, so going to the pub or resturant wont be affected. It will just mean that we walk, take a taxi, or arrange a lift from a sober pal.
Scotland leads the way on this, let's hope the other home nations follow suit.
K
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Hi Folks, sorry for jumping in feet first to make my 1st post but this zero or not limit is interesting.
Many moons ago I was seconded to an outfit installing gear for making whisky mash into cattle feed at a distillery in Edinburgh.
My colleague advised re drinking a lot of tea at the job (as if!) Apparently the atmosphere was so loaded with alcohol it was absorbed through the skin and drinking a lot of fluids made it enter the blood stream quicker. Some
occupational hazard!We had to commute back to Glasgow in heavy traffic so behaved
Anyway, good to be on the site here, better go and introduce myself!
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I am just wondering if the Brewers/Licensed Vintners Association are thinking of investing in ‘Driverless Car Technology’. I think this has the potential to lead to the revival of the 'Great British Pub'. No doubt, although no one will actually be driving, someone will be charged with being ‘Drunk in Charge of a Motor Vehicle’.
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The lack of Police patrols is very likely to be one cause of the reduction in offences recorded. The numbers of dedicated Motorway patrols are a fraction of what they once were, The civilian "Patrol Officers" in the Back & Yellow chequered vehicles are a
wast of time & dont count!The other problem for the Police is the fact that when you have very few officers out on Patrol anyway, when one of them then carries out a positive breath test on someone and of course an arrest will then follow, thats a further reduction of officers available
to deal with anything.TF
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Most, if not all of Europe has a 50/100 limit and it would make sense for the UK to fall in line.
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A Zero limit is barely practicable. A small helping of trifle, a liqueur chocolate, Christmas cake, or even a fruit salad that has been around too long and fermented would be enough to register. Some mouthwashes also have alcohol in them....and I know you
don't drink it but rinsing may be enough.Peter.
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I'm sure that if you ate your fermented fruit salad and then washed your mouth with one of the few remaining mouth washes that contain miniscule amounts of alcohol as you opened your car door and sucked on a chocolate liquor as you started your car and then
got pulled as you drive of the drive you may just about register something on the breathalyzer, however when you were then taken to the police station for a blood test which I believe is the standard procedure I think you would be fine. However I would advice
against the steak and ale pie as a main before your trifle!!!!0 -
A Zero limit is barely practicable. A small helping of trifle, a liqueur chocolate, Christmas cake, or even a fruit salad that has been around too long and fermented would be enough to register. Some mouthwashes also have alcohol in them....and I know you
don't drink it but rinsing may be enough.Peter.
All very true......and your body produces a very small amount of alcohol naturally anyway......hence a zero limit unworkable.
As for the ale in a steak & ale pie......well there ain't no alcohol in it. ...just the flavour of the ale.
Alcohol boils at 72 degrees Celsius so anything cooked above that temperature has had the alcohol (literally) boiled off.
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Zero drinking if driving, majority of my friends and colleagues have stuck to this. Both of us have been known to have a glass of wine if out for a meal or a beer or a wine spritzer if either of us have been driving as we knew it was OK. Since the law
has come in neither of us will have anything to drink of we are driving. If driving the next morning will restrict alcohol intake to ensure safe to drive wihtout worries. I know there are people who still drink and drive and who do not worry and they get
away with it. we are happy with this however when my son came up from England he was unaware of the change in limit. As i sit here on my second glass of wine on Friday night - no work on Saturday and no early start in the morning.0
