No store bonus cards

bestboy
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edited December 2015 in General Chat #1

In Iceland today at the till OH was asked if she had a bonus card . "No," she replied and quick as a flash the teller inserted a card into the reader thing from under the counter.

Who's card ?  no idea but..

 Was this dishonesty, fraud. Or what!

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  • ivorwetwun
    ivorwetwun Forum Participant Posts: 59
    edited December 2015 #2

    Not dishonest, nor  fraud, but someone on the minimum wage using their initiative.

    Who cares?

  • bestboy
    bestboy Forum Participant Posts: 302
    edited December 2015 #3

    Oddly I care, Ivor!

    I have no problem with the teller gaining, albeit next to nothing, from the transaction instead of me, but I don't like the slyness of his action. 

  • ivorwetwun
    ivorwetwun Forum Participant Posts: 59
    edited December 2015 #4

    Well I don't. There aren't many jobs that don't have perks.

    Did you have a perk in yours?

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2015 #5

    I would not think the stores management would be very impressed. Very often if the store is giving away vouchers for schools they have a box you can put them in that goes to a local school. However, this does not sound anything like that and in my opinion
    is wrong.

  • bestboy
    bestboy Forum Participant Posts: 302
    edited December 2015 #6

    Well I don't. There aren't many jobs that don't have perks.

    Did you have a perk in yours?

    No 

    but I'm an O.A.P .

     

    hang on .I got a bus pass!

  • rogher
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    edited December 2015 #7

    We all have to pay for these schemes. The cost of all overheads, like stock shrinkage and credit card commission, has to come out of profit. I’d much prefer simple low prices rather than mischievous schemes of any kind. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2015 #8

    We all have to pay for these schemes. The cost of all overheads, like stock shrinkage and credit card commission, has to come out of profit .... 

    The Co-op did pretty well with stamps Wink

  • Oneputt
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    edited December 2015 #9

    Well I don't. There aren't many jobs that don't have perks.

    Did you have a perk in yours?

    Most shops tend to give their staff a discount on purchases don't they?

  • brue
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    edited December 2015 #10

    BB, I wondered if they were using their swipe card to sign in or sign off before/after using the till? Quite a few till workers have to do this procedure when starting or finishing their work session.

  • volvoman9
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    edited December 2015 #11

    Well I don't. There aren't many jobs that don't have perks.

    Did you have a perk in yours?

    Well on this point i always say a job without perks aint worth a light.I certainly made my own perks in my job but anyway on the subject in question i,ve seen a similar thing at a Shell petrol station where i get my petrol.They always ask me if i have a
    shell points card and i say no give the points to someone else or have them yourself but they are not allowed to do that which i think is a bit sad really.

    peter.

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited December 2015 #12

    Depending on whose card received the bonus points, it could be classed as pecuniary advantage if they didn't ask if they could have your points.  Manners to ask though.

    I usually request that the cashier give my points to somebody else if I'm not collecting them myself.

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  • ivorwetwun
    ivorwetwun Forum Participant Posts: 59
    edited December 2015 #13

    It was done openly, therefore cannot be dishonestly obtaining a pecuniary advantage.

  • David2115
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    edited December 2015 #14

    It was done openly, therefore cannot be dishonestly obtaining a pecuniary advantage.

    Write your comments here...not sure how you can say. Points to prove for theft are 

    " dishonestly appropriate property with the intention of permanently depriving another of it"

    on the facts given non of the above can be proved or disproved without further information..

    dishonest... Depends on store policy and what was said 

    appropriate ..... Take as own 

    property.... Points... Were they added to another persons card 

    intent.... Why was the person doing it, 

    permanently deprive.......who has been deprived, the shop? The customer? What was the person going to do with the points?

    Further questions needed I think 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2015 #15

    I doubt there are many people on this Planet that hasn't done something as 'minimally not honest' to be fair. If they were taking a few loyalty points from me I'd not lose sleep over it, nor even give it a second thought.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited December 2015 #16

    Surely if the operator was doing this for every customer that didn't have a loyalty card it would soon be picked up on, how many times a day the card is swiped?

  • brue
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    edited December 2015 #17

    TG I agree, I think most till operators in large stores which have points cards would be logged into the system when they start and finish their shift. On till receipts there is usually a till operator number so that everything is traceable. Quite a few receipts would show the points too so I'm not sure how they could be added to the till operators account?

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2015 #18

    Might it be that all unclaimed points are collected on a store's card and at some stage a donation made to a charity?

    (Or am I being ridiculously naive?!!)

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2015 #19

    You would be amazed at the silly things people do. You look at it and think, they must know they were going to get caught, the system will flag up an anomaly. However, still they go ahead and do it. Just don't think I suppose.

  • TheTakman
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    edited December 2015 #20

    I very much doubt that it was some kind of fraud because Iceland don't offer points of any kind!. The bonus card enters you into a monthly prize draw when it is used. It also gives you access to home delivery and allows you to save money onto it like Tesco Stamps. 

    I hope nobody here is scanning their Iceland card everytime thinking they are collecting points Sticking Tongue Out

  • ValDa
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    edited December 2015 #21

    It's probably a card to swipe to say 'Yes I've asked the customer if they've got a loyalty card and they've said No'! This will prove to the Iceland 'quality auditors' that all the Checkout Operators have been properly trained in Loyalty Card useage and
    are doing their jobs correctly!

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2015 #22

    I very much doubt that it was some kind of fraud because Iceland don't offer points of any kind!.

    I thought about going to Iceland next year, but if there's no point I'll probably opt for Croatia again!

    Laughing. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • David2115
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    edited December 2015 #23

    It's probably a card to swipe to say 'Yes I've asked the customer if they've got a loyalty card and they've said No'! This will prove to the Iceland 'quality auditors' that all the Checkout Operators have been properly trained in Loyalty Card useage and
    are doing their jobs correctly!

    Write your comments here...really!you think so. Not likely. 

  • Graydjames
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    edited December 2015 #24

    "I’d much prefer simple low prices rather than mischievous schemes of any kind. "

    Mischievous? In what way is a loyalty card scheme "mischievous"?  

  • ValDa
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    edited December 2015 #25

    It's probably a card to swipe to say 'Yes I've asked the customer if they've got a loyalty card and they've said No'! This will prove to the Iceland 'quality auditors' that all the Checkout Operators have been properly trained in Loyalty Card useage and
    are doing their jobs correctly!

    Write your comments here...

    It's probably a card to swipe to say 'Yes I've asked the customer if they've got a loyalty card and they've said No'! This will prove to the Iceland 'quality auditors' that all the Checkout Operators have been properly trained in Loyalty Card useage and
    are doing their jobs correctly!

    Write your comments here...really!you think so. Not likely. 

    I forgot to add the Wink

  • David2115
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    edited December 2015 #26

    It's probably a card to swipe to say 'Yes I've asked the customer if they've got a loyalty card and they've said No'! This will prove to the Iceland 'quality auditors' that all the Checkout Operators have been properly trained in Loyalty Card useage and
    are doing their jobs correctly!

    Write your comments here...you had me worried

    It's probably a card to swipe to say 'Yes I've asked the customer if they've got a loyalty card and they've said No'! This will prove to the Iceland 'quality auditors' that all the Checkout Operators have been properly trained in Loyalty Card useage and
    are doing their jobs correctly!

    Write your comments here...really!you think so. Not likely. 

    I forgot to add the Wink

    Write your comments here...you got me worried