Levelling your caravan
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So if the statement can't be true I must be telling lies!!
----than call someone who is just trying to give someone some information a lier
There are various scenarios why one might make a statement that is untrue.
My thoughts at the time were, and remain, a great deal more generous than you assumed.
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So if the statement can't be true I must be telling lies!!
----than call someone who is just trying to give someone some information a lier
There are various scenarios why one might make a statement that is untrue.
My thoughts at the time were, and remain, a great deal more generous than you assumed.
what have I to gain from not telling the truth.
let me say again, in my opinion and its only my opinion we feel NO difference between the van being on the ground or one side being on the LnL. if you dont like or believe that, that is your choice but please dont come on here and accuse someone you dont know of telling untruths, if you had experience of the LnL you could give an opinion but by your current comments you dont, so how could you possibly know
As I said if you want to see for your self buy one.
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Galileo had this problem.
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Galileo had this problem.
What problem??
Truth/Fact v Perception = Confrontation.
I suspect that Navigateur is referring to his brush with the Roman Catholic Church, when he proposed that the Earth is not the centre of the universe.
Dedicated Lock’n’Level fan.
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Galileo had this problem.
What problem??
Truth/Fact v Perception = Confrontation.
I suspect that Navigateur is referring to his brush with the Roman Catholic Church, when he proposed that the Earth is not the centre of the universe.
Dedicated Lock’n’Level fan.
Thanks for that.
I dont have a problem Navigator!!!!!
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Ah, but don't forget that Galileo muttered under his breath "It moves just the same" so was he referring to LockNLevel?
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Never thought I'd see the day that the humble 'lock n level' would stir up emotions as much as the Brexit debate.
I'm a twin axle lock and leveller and think it is a superb piece of kit. We left our caravan on a site for 3 months and it didn't lose any air but to be on the safe side we put old awning skirt underneath and on top to reduce the already low risk of a puncture.
None of the alternatives can compete with it and I've tried them all. My one and only complaint is the stuff sack that comes with it. You would have to spend hours squeezing every drop of air out of it, to fit it in the bag so that now gets used to hold the
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Ah, but don't forget that Galileo muttered under his breath "It moves just the same" so was he referring to LockNLevel?
Nice –one !!! Cyberyacht
I should have known that someone would draw attention to that fact and use it in that context, especially when I deliberately avoided its inclusion.
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Have just watched how lock n level works on utube and have got to say it makes levelling from side to side very easy , was thinking of getting a milenco leveller that the tyre sits in as have just come back from warwick and i had to try and level the van
cos hubbys hurt his back ,i dont think i did a very good job because the floorboards were a bit squeeky (i hope i didnt damage chassis ) tried not totighten steadies too hard
cheers mrs bc ps warwick a nice site you can walk into town and theres a common
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Never thought I'd see the day that the humble 'lock n level' would stir up emotions as much as the Brexit debate.
I'm a twin axle lock and leveller and think it is a superb piece of kit. We left our caravan on a site for 3 months and it didn't lose any air but to be on the safe side we put old awning skirt underneath and on top to reduce the already low risk of a puncture.
None of the alternatives can compete with it and I've tried them all. My one and only complaint is the stuff sack that comes with it. You would have to spend hours squeezing every drop of air out of it, to fit it in the bag so that now gets used to hold the
Christmas lights. Nothing's wastedTotally agree with all your comments. I just fold ours up and put it inside the upturned step, just inside the door, when we are travelling.
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Galileo had this problem.
What problem??
Write your comments here...
His problem was having a new idea. But he soon changed his mind - when his detractors showed him the rack. Does the CC have a rack to rent, an hour should be enough, whatever your initial opinion.
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For me, the lock and level is the easiest, and most convenient levelling system I have ever used. I was one of the first to purchase one and in 2 days time it will be with me as we travel to the IOW.
It can always be a standby lifejacket if the ferry sinks, Merve.
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Galileo had this problem.
What problem??
Write your comments here...
His problem was having a new idea. But he soon changed his mind - when his detractors showed him the rack. Does the CC have a rack to rent, an hour should be enough, whatever your initial opinion.
Could you repeat that Please!
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For me, the lock and level is the easiest, and most convenient levelling system I have ever used. I was one of the first to purchase one and in 2 days time it will be with me as we travel to the IOW.
It can always be a standby lifejacket if the ferry sinks, Merve.
Write your comments here...It was like a mill pond Cyber!
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I'm picking up my caravan on the 10th september. So I've had plenty of time to research. The upshot of my research is that the lock 'n level is the solution for "my" problem, but it's not for everyone.
Here's why it's the solution for me. Firstly, the caravan that I'm picking up next week is my first caravan. So, needless to say I have no experience, other than the CC driving course that I completed last week.
I'm going to be using my caravan alone, so am not likely to have much help when it comes to pitching everything.
I will be using an excalibeur wheel lock, which for insurance purposes does need to be fitted. (Hopefully, this will fit to either wheel, to make things really easy).
I'm one of those people that are really pedantic about getting things set right.
So, I said that I looked at lots of solutions. Here's what I considered.
1. piece of pipe and plank of wood.
This is the home made approach that some use to make a ramp, you can use bricks etc to increase the height. For me this feels like a Heath Robinson solution.
2. Wheel ramps.
There are several kinds - the flat ramp (fiamma) and the ones with steps (milenco) I personally have an issue with driving my caravan up onto a ramp that is the same width as the tyre. Just feels to me that the tolerance is very small. The stepped version that I saw when researching put me off as this means that the caravan could roll back.
I've since seen that you can easily chock the wheel whilst on a flat ramp, but even so, I didn't really like that he wheel would be on a ramp to start with.
The stepped versions made me wonder about the safety, also as you can only use one of three heights, would it be possible to miss the height needed for levelling and go too far in one step?
3. Lock 'n level.
As I said, this the solution that I ended up with.
Firstly, I can drive on to the bag, check that it's straight before I start to level. Can set 28 psi on my pump to ensure that it'll never overfil the bag. Next, all that I'd need to do is turn on the pump and weight for the van to level out.
I can chock the other wheel front and back, so there's no danger of the van rolling. Also if the van isn't fully inflated, the wheel does sit in a natural chock anyway so I'm sure that wheel won't roll off (I tried it last weekend at a course, using a caravan shell)
The bag looks to be make of very thick material, and the construction makes me feel confident that it's not likely to puncture under my use - especially if I pick up a door mat from pound stretcher to put under it. Don't think I'd need anything on top, but it won't hurt to do that as well.
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I'm picking up my caravan on the 10th september. So I've had plenty of time to research. The upshot of my research is that the lock 'n level is the solution for "my" problem, but it's not for everyone.
Here's why it's the solution for me. Firstly, the caravan that I'm picking up next week is my first caravan. So, needless to say I have no experience, other than the CC driving course that I completed last week.
I'm going to be using my caravan alone, so am not likely to have much help when it comes to pitching everything.
I will be using an excalibeur wheel lock, which for insurance purposes does need to be fitted. (Hopefully, this will fit to either wheel, to make things really easy).
I'm one of those people that are really pedantic about getting things set right.
So, I said that I looked at lots of solutions. Here's what I considered.
1. piece of pipe and plank of wood.
This is the home made approach that some use to make a ramp, you can use bricks etc to increase the height. For me this feels like a Heath Robinson solution.
2. Wheel ramps.
There are several kinds - the flat ramp (fiamma) and the ones with steps (milenco) I personally have an issue with driving my caravan up onto a ramp that is the same width as the tyre. Just feels to me that the tolerance is very small. The stepped version
that I saw when researching put me off as this means that the caravan could roll back.I've since seen that you can easily chock the wheel whilst on a flat ramp, but even so, I didn't really like that he wheel would be on a ramp to start with.
The stepped versions made me wonder about the safety, also as you can only use one of three heights, would it be possible to miss the height needed for levelling and go too far in one step?
3. Lock 'n level.
As I said, this the solution that I ended up with.
Firstly, I can drive on to the bag, check that it's straight before I start to level. Can set 28 psi on my pump to ensure that it'll never overfil the bag. Next, all that I'd need to do is turn on the pump and weight for the van to level out.
I can chock the other wheel front and back, so there's no danger of the van rolling. Also if the van isn't fully inflated, the wheel does sit in a natural chock anyway so I'm sure that wheel won't roll off (I tried it last weekend at a course, using a caravan
shell)The bag looks to be make of very thick material, and the construction makes me feel confident that it's not likely to puncture under my use - especially if I pick up a door mat from pound stretcher to put under it. Don't think I'd need anything on top,
but it won't hurt to do that as well.Personally as a solo caravanner I would invest in a motor mover & a pair of decent plastic ramps. Much easier than reversing the caravan wheel onto a bag, which you will need to do on most pitches. But each to thier own.
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I have managed with the same two bits of board - one thick, one thin - for the last 40 years. Sometimes I use one, sometimes the other, and sometimes both. But complicated wheel clamps on a campsite as well? No need surely?
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eurotraveller many insurances stipulate that both wheel and hitch locks sure fitted and I take that to mean anywhere. But I admit to not always bothering with the wheel lock. However my insurance says I cannot "leave for more than 3 hours unattended". Would
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Thanks Pippah. Your insurance may indeed say that - but not mine. So we are off to France again in a few days time - with both bits of floor board and a hitchlock. Regards to you.
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eurotraveller many insurances stipulate that both wheel and hitch locks sure fitted and I take that to mean anywhere. But I admit to not always bothering with the wheel lock. However my insurance says I cannot "leave for more than 3 hours unattended". Would
they really pay up at a Mway services?You need to read the exact wording and many are very strict. If the policy allows you to leave the caravan unattended for three hours without the locks then it does not matter if it is a motorway services or anywhere else it is covered. Insurers cannot say
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I have managed with the same two bits of board - one thick, one thin - for the last 40 years. Sometimes I use one, sometimes the other, and sometimes both. But complicated wheel clamps on a campsite as well? No need surely?
Write your comments here... I do the same as Eurotraveller. Not only is it very cheap but it is easier to run the wheel along the board to get the exact alignment required to fit the Alko wheel lock. That is much harder to do when the wheel is on a steep
ramp. I actually have two short planks of different thicknesses which used singularly or both together offer 3 different height options and it is surprising how easy it has been to judge what is needed.0 -
We use a spirit level.
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I use the multi “plank” leveller, and the spirit level placed on the van’s side for across axle levelling.
Judging what height I need is then child’s play, in my case and I suspect most others, I need a plank(s) that are 8 times the gap I can see at the end of the spirit level, when the vial is set for it to be vertical. So if it is an 1/8th” then it needs a 1” plank, 1/4”, then two inches.
Its not rocket science and so easy to constructively estimate what will be needed.
Like many I have a 2.3 metre wide caravan and the wheel track of this is 80” +/- a couple of inches; and my standard hand level is 10” long, so a ratio of 8:1. If you buy the standard 250 mm 10" spirit level no one will be significanly different to me.
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I have just recieved my new L&L The Service from L&L was superb and the new one compared to the old one is a vast improvement. Much wider allowing the tyre to miss the valve by a good margin. I am in Wales at the moment with it in place. 3 people have already come over to look at it and fortunately, L&L sent me some leaflets with the product allowing me to hand them out. To all those who "don't trust them" I say this. Once you have used your L£L with consummate ease to level your van, you can, for your peace of mind, place a sissor or hydraulic jack behind it under the axle. You will still have the wonderful experience of easy levelling but also know that if you spring a leak( which has not yet been known I believe) you have the assurance of the jack holding it. Just a thought as I have done this in the past so best of both worlds!
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We always carry a bottle jack (and a Bulldog leveller which is brilliant) but just reading that last comment made me wonder, wouldn't it be just as easy to use the jack in the first place? Your thoughts ladies and gentlemen!
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One thing I do not follow with this device is that if one is using it on the near-side to fit wheel locks, and the pitch spot slopes to the off-side is one not actually making it worse, or does one purchase TWO sets to ensure a level van?
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