Fuel economy question

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  • Metheven
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    edited February 2016 #32

    Daisy hill near where we live will test your cars power, think 'Rocky' might know its challenge.

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #33

    I don't have a big one so can't compete with you lot....in fact I didn't really want toHappy

    I did the Monte once though!!!!!!

    Write your comments here...Was The Field Marshall impressed ?.  Surprised

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #34

    I remember coming down Porlock Hill in the 50s with my old Dad,driving a Bedford lorry.That was scary even for a young un!.

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #35

     .......That will be with uniforms on then.  Laughing

    They were in a bag in the boot Wink

    Write your comments here...Tomorrow night (Monday) Ch 4 9 Oclock.............different to when we took The Queens Shilling !.  Foot in Mouth

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #36

     .......That will be with uniforms on then.  Laughing

    They were in a bag in the boot Wink

    Write your comments here...Tomorrow night (Monday) Ch 4 9 Oclock.............different to when we took The Queens Shilling !.  Foot in Mouth

    I saw last weeks ....... I joined up across the road from Raliegh though Wink 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2016 #37

    I know the place. It's closed down now. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #38

    I know the place. It's closed down now. 

    I know Don't cry some kind of business park isn't it?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2016 #39

    I know the place. It's closed down now. 

    I know Don't cry some kind of business park isn't it?

    I believe so. Trevol Business Park, I think.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #40

    I know the place. It's closed down now. 

    I know Don't cry some kind of business park isn't it?

    I believe so. Trevol Business Park, I think.

    It would seem so Sad

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #41

    http://thefisgardassociation.org/nostalgia/set3/793/793.shtml

    picture 3 of 9 793 entry Lane 1 ..... 3rd from left back row Surprised

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #42

    http://thefisgardassociation.org/nostalgia/set3/793/793.shtml

    picture 3 of 9 793 entry Lane 1 ..... 3rd from left back row Surprised

    Write your comments here...Nice one Molly .liked that! Laughing. I bet your parents were there biteing their lips holding back the
    tears as proud as Punch. Only time I see my old chap melt!.

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #43

    http://thefisgardassociation.org/nostalgia/set3/793/793.shtml

    picture 3 of 9 793 entry Lane 1 ..... 3rd from left back row Surprised

    Write your comments here...Nice one Molly .liked that! Laughing. I bet your parents were there biteing their lips holding back the
    tears as proud as Punch. Only time I see my old chap melt!.

    Write your comments here...I/We were like big kids when our Son passed out 28 years ago.He laughed at me...he still laughs at me ,for many reasons.  Sad 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #44

    http://thefisgardassociation.org/nostalgia/set3/793/793.shtml

    picture 3 of 9 793 entry Lane 1 ..... 3rd from left back row Surprised

    Write your comments here...Nice one Molly .liked that! Laughing. I bet your parents were there biteing their lips holding back the
    tears as proud as Punch. Only time I see my old chap melt!.

    Write your comments here...I/We were like big kids when our Son passed out 28 years ago.He laughed at me...he still laughs at me ,for many reasons.  Sad 

    My son joined up at Raliegh so we saw him passing out ... as you say, pround as punch .... unfortunately it wasn't for him and he left after a short time

  • tigerfish
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    edited February 2016 #45

    On the subject of fuel economy take a look at my post in the Towcar thread currently in use.

    When I had a set of new tyres fitted to my car, the garage inadvertantly fitted a set that although being the same make and size for my car, had a much higher rolling resistance.  It made a difference of 6mpg in the wrong direction, and cost shed loads more
    in general use!  I had not previously recognised the importance to fuel consumption that that factor has.

    All tyres must by law now carry markings that indicate that factor.  Your garage or tyre dealer will only tell you if you ask!

    TF

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  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2016 #47

    I do know tyres make a difference although which to choose always seems to be very hit and miss. I did however at one time have two otherwise identical Cavaliers apart from 5he tyres. Tne first had Michelin and the second I think were Continental. The second
    one had far less grip for no other apparent reason and given both had tyres from reputable manufacturers I think sticking with what is there if you are happy with them is probably the best idea.

  • tigerfish
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    edited February 2016 #48

    David, The problem that I had was that BOTH sets of tyres that were  fitted to my car were Michelin, and both sets clearly stated that they were for the Mercedes ML.  What the tyre dealer didnt know at the time ( & neither did I ) was that Michelin produced two very different types of tyre for the ML.

    One set for the earlier non Blue Efficeincy model had a rolling resistance of 7/8 and the other type for the Blue Efficiency Model had a rolling resistance factor of 2.  My car had been fitted with the wrong tyres in good faith. It was only when I questioned the sudden quite steep increase in fuel consumption did anyone realise what had happened.

    My only purpose in raising it is that I suspect that it is mistake that has been made on more than one occasion on other makes too. So its surely better to put people on their guard.

    TF

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  • tigerfish
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    edited February 2016 #50

    You are certainly right there!

    TF

  • Adingley84
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    edited February 2016 #51

    I agree that where the load is will have negligible impact other than affecting balance and front axle grip.

    My Subaru Forester 2.5XT has put in 26-27 mpg over 113k miles and gets 18 mpg at 62mph towing 1400kg loaded Elddis Avante 556. I need to get familiar with user friendly filling stations!!

  • Scottie2
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    edited February 2016 #52

    A quick question....purely about fuel economy and nothing else like load handling/stability..

    I will be towing a Trigano Silver 380 to Provence this June, it's a light caravan btw.

    I'll be pulling it with a Renault Meganne 1.5 diesel.

    Let's say I would be carrying 100kg of things that could be either stored in the van or the car....does the fuel economy alter with either storage option (car v. caravan) or would it be exactly the same?

    Write your comments here......Othe factors lowering mpg is roof racks and driving with the driver/passenger windows open.

  • tigerfish
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    edited February 2016 #53

    Make sure that your tyres are properly inflated, and if your habdbook gives higher pressures when loaded then do it!

    You will be surprised just how important that is.   It is one of the reasons that by law now,  new cars have to have a low pressure warning system fitted!

    TF

  • Scottie2
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    edited February 2016 #54

    Make sure that your tyres are properly inflated, and if your habdbook gives higher pressures when loaded then do it!

    You will be surprised just how important that is.   It is one of the reasons that by law now,  new cars have to have a low pressure warning system fitted!

    TF

    Write your comments here...yes, increase your tyres to the manufacturers "fully loaded" pressures. Don't forget that once on site and if you are going to there for a while, reduce them to "normal"....Also, as a quick reference, write the front and rear  normal
    and loaded pressures on a slip of  paper and stick it behind the driver side sun visor.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2016 #55

    Most modern cars have a little sticker on the driver's door pillar with the pressures, do they not?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #56

    Most modern cars have a little sticker on the driver's door pillar with the pressures, do they not?

    mine are on the inside of the fuel filler cap Laughing

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #57

    Write your comments here...yes, increase your tyres to the manufacturers "fully loaded" pressures.
    Don't forget that once on site and if you are going to there for a while, reduce them to "normal"....Also, as a quick reference, write the front and rear  normal and loaded pressures on a slip of  paper and stick it behind the driver side sun
    visor.

    Especially if the roads are bendy in the area you are located. My X Trail handles horribly in these situations if you leave them at maximum.  

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  • SteveL
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    Make sure that your tyres are properly inflated, and if your habdbook gives higher pressures when loaded then do it!

    You will be surprised just how important that is.   It is one of the reasons that by law now,  new cars have to have a low pressure warning system fitted!

    TF

    Write your comments here...yes, increase your tyres to the manufacturers "fully loaded" pressures. Don't forget that once on site and if you are going to there for a while, reduce them to "normal"....Also, as a quick reference, write the front and rear  normal and loaded pressures on a slip of  paper and stick it behind the driver side sun visor.

    So are you going to re-inflate them  to maximum pressure next time you drive off with the van in tow

    Mine stay at max all the year round unless the garage adjusts them when its in for a service because the car spends more time towing than solo.

    I would not lower the pressure and re-inflate them if it was only for a night, or a couple of days, as if that was the case it would be unlikely we are using the car much. However, normally we spend at least a week and then I think it worth it. It does not actually take long with an electric pump.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #60

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    Mine stay at max all the year round unless the garage adjusts them when its in for a service because the car spends more time towing than solo.

    that must make for some scary handling then ..... on the few occassions I forgot & left the Omega's tyres at max pressure for solo driving, the car was all over the place. I never bother raising pressures these day & have no adverse affects either towing
    or solo

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #61

    On my Lexus when not towing I keep them at 32 P.S.I all round, but inflate them to 34 F and 38 R when hooked up.............Molly ?.Undecided