2017 Site fees
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As I posted a short while ago, "Sunday Departures - The Sequel"
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Are some on here so fragile and sensitive that a few meaningless words send them running to teacher. Get a grip fellow members, your neighbours and friends will still speak to you and the daily nationals are not really interested in your persona.
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Reading this thread I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Some people don't know how lucky they are. Lets face it, camping with the club is a middle class sport. It's not cheap, neither is the equipment.
A few years ago my dad died. He worked full-time until 65, got ill at 66 and died at 67. It broke his heart the day the dealership drove his van away to sell because he couldn't manage it anymore.
i read on here about final salary, investments etc Some people can't even consider these things. I'm due to retire in 20 years time when I'm 67 if I'm lucky as my private pension might still be worth diddly squat by then.
You have choices, make them and go down that path but remember, it's your life and whatever you have at the end you can't take with you. If you don't enjoy it someone else will.
Have a great day everyone.
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Introducing factors into this thread such as pensions, inflation, 'unpaid' family labour, extension of peak periods and peak prices is pointless.
The CC is a business, not a club or a charity. The membership fee is merely bait on the 'belonging' hook.
Commercial businesses charge what the market will stand, up to the point where the cost suppresses demand to an unprofitable level, just as with airlines, holiday companies, exercise gyms, concert promoters.... even my country club club does it.
Some will consider them affordable and reasonable with regard to their other interests or expenditure and some will not. That's their choice.
I think you have some of the debate reversed Spriddler. Many are saying, me included, the peak prices are reasonable in relation to Commercials in peak. K is one of the few saying that they should be increased till the pips squeak. What a lot seem to be
saying is that the off peak prices are too high, and the CC should offer cut price deals along the lines of SB. Personally I am not in favour of that, as I fear it would inevitably lead to peak time increases.0 -
as a result of their lifetime of hard work and thrift they can now afford to spend their leisure time on overpriced sites with all the charm of a crematorium garden.
now that really did bring a broad smile to my face in an otherwise thread full of the same old repeated rhetoric.peedee
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There is a world out there beyond Caravan Club sites to explored and yet we have people here boasting that as a result of their lifetime of hard work and thrift they can now afford to spend their leisure time on overpriced sites with all the charm of a
crematorium garden.Missed the boasts David. For me the CC sites offer a good base to explore the UK. As for the charm of crematoriuns. Perhaps it is preperation for the next stage of my 'life'
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There is a world out there beyond Caravan Club sites to explored and yet we have people here boasting that as a result of their lifetime of hard work and thrift they can now afford to spend their leisure time on overpriced sites with all the charm of a
crematorium garden.I think we have to accept that we all have different priorities, likes and dislikes. We belong to a leisure club at one of the local large hotels. The pool etc are very nice and we get to use it all year for what they charge one person for four nights over
Christmas. I would not even consider spending that sort of money on such a short break. However, enough do the place is sold out every year.0 -
There is a world out there beyond Caravan Club sites to explored and yet we have people here boasting that as a result of their lifetime of hard work and thrift they can now afford to spend their leisure time on overpriced sites with all the charm of a crematorium garden.
I can't see any boasts but even if what you say is true, that's their choice isn't it?
isn't that the idea of working hard and saving money anyway? so you can spend your money where you wish?
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. What a lot seem to be saying is that the off peak prices are too high,
Too high compared with what people would like to pay, or too high relative to peak prices, or compared with commercial site charges, or too high compared with the assumed cost of operating the sites?
Membership is merely a marketing tool: We are paying the fee merely to put our name on a marketable targeted mailing list for advertisers and for the magazine (which I have declined) and its banal, repetitive and sycophantic content. Hence there are more
ads for elasticated waistband trousers and Stannah Lifts rather than Pampers disposable nappies and Gucci handbags.I, and perhaps many others (who probably don't visit CT), don't have a motorhome for cheap holidays
per se. It is purely transport and accommodation to pursue other interests; vintage vehicle and country shows, motorcycling events, sites of interesting French medieval history, foreign culinary experiences, warmth, scenery...... When I decide to go
away I choose a site (here or abroad and from several sources) near to where I want to go, check that its geographical environment is attractive using Google Earth and book. Price is irrelevant. Maybe I'm in a minority but I doubt it.0 -
Off topic but:
BB I apologise for my earlier remark, it was made in haste, trying to be jokey and I used the wrong wording. This is no excuse of course and I retract the implied accusation of you bullying.
Sorry
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Contrary to Spriddler, it is a Club. If you don't like the fees stand for the committee and stop complaining on here.
I'm not complaining Geejay. Quite the reverse. The cost of membership is merely pocket money (I couldn't even say what it is) and if 'membership' comes in handy two or three times a year to find a CL that's all I expect. Most of my travelling is abroad so I do not belong in order to benefit from subsidised cheap pitches, or (so I'm told), reduced ferry fares.
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. What a lot seem to be saying is that the off peak prices are too high,
Too high compared with what people would like to pay, or too high relative to peak prices, or compared with commercial site charges, or too high compared with the assumed cost of operating the sites?
I am not saying it you understand. However, I would assume all except your last point, operating costs, which we have no real information on. We are also in the fortunate position of not being totally controlled by cost. However, I think it is more about
getting a very good deal that appeals. Unfortunately if the club follows the commercial model and provides these lost leaders, they will have to recouped the money by inflating peak prices. Something that the true commercials are very good at. I believe as
one of the fortunate retired belonging to a CLUB, I am already able to benefit enough by going away off peak and mid week discounts, without putting further burden on young families by demanding mega cheap deals they cannot benifit from.0 -
Pricing is the key to growth in a successful business.
When the product is not selling well -- Such as CC pitches during midweek / off peak season -- Reduce the price until the sites start to fill up.
Conversely where the demand outstrips the supply and customers struggle to find access to the product, like at weekends and peak season. -- Increase the prices until the demand
just matches supply.It's not rocket science, It is proper business practice. Just needs the will to increase efficiency and turnover.
Cheers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,K
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Pricing is the key to growth in a successful business.
When the product is not selling well -- Such as CC pitches during midweek / off peak season -- Reduce the price until the sites start to fill up.
Conversely where the demand outstrips the supply and customers struggle to find access to the product, like at weekends and peak season. -- Increase the prices until the demand
just matches supply.It's not rocket science, It is proper business practice. Just needs the will to increase efficiency and turnover.
Cheers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,K
A common sense approach!
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My gripe is that the CC pretends to be family friendly then promtly puts the price up by 40% during school holidays,
To be fair they put the price up to peak for a lot more than the school holidays. It now covers a fair section of the better weather, particularly for those sites close to Scotland. It would be unrealistic not to expect price rises at this time, it is when
the sites are at there fullest and consumable cost are lower. Without these increases the network could just not function. They certainly would not be able to open any sites in winter without the summer harvest.0 -
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Unfortunately if the club follows the commercial model and provides these lost leaders, they will have to recouped the money by inflating peak prices. Something that the true commercials are very good at.
'Twas ever thus, Steve. Hence we are not in a club. It could be argued that commercial sites are greatly benefiting the retired (majority of members?) by suppressing the opportunity for the CC to raise the cost during off-peak periods. This same topic has been running for years relative to off-peak and peak family package holidays which is one reason why thousands of retired folk can afford to spend the winter in hotels in Spain. Perhaps the holiday operators should also increase winter prices and save on staff costs for their half-empty hotels? No-one complains that skiing holidays are dearer in winter than in summer! Q.E.D.
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There is a world out there beyond Caravan Club sites to explored and yet we have people here boasting that as a result of their lifetime of hard work and thrift they can now afford to spend their leisure time on overpriced sites with all the charm of a
crematorium garden.Missed the boasts David. For me the CC sites offer a good base to explore the UK. As for the charm of crematoriuns. Perhaps it is preperation for the next stage of my 'life'
Not you Alan but a couple who shall remain nameless have questioned the pension arrangements of others less fortunate.
Yes, it was quite deplorable and has no place on a friendly forum like this.
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There is a world out there beyond Caravan Club sites to explored and yet we have people here boasting that as a result of their lifetime of hard work and thrift they can now afford to spend their leisure time on overpriced sites with all the charm of a crematorium garden.
Missed the boasts David. For me the CC sites offer a good base to explore the UK. As for the charm of crematoriuns. Perhaps it is preperation for the next stage of my 'life'
Not you Alan but a couple who shall remain nameless have questioned the pension arrangements of others less fortunate.
Yes, it was quite deplorable and has no place on a friendly forum like this.
...I do agree, -----That kind of behaviour is unacceptable on any forum.
Cheers....................K
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Pricing is the key to growth in a successful business.
When the product is not selling well -- Such as CC pitches during midweek / off peak season -- Reduce the price until the sites start to fill up.
Conversely where the demand outstrips the supply and customers struggle to find access to the product, like at weekends and peak season. -- Increase the prices until the demand just matches supply.
It's not rocket science, It is proper business practice. Just needs the will to increase efficiency and turnover.
Cheers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,K
A common sense approach!
I am a little confused Ian. In other places you are arguing that the club is wrong to put prices up by 5% or 10% as that is way above inflation. However, it would be OK to put the prices up by these figures, or even more, as a result of supply and demand. I am afraid to those who have to holiday at weekends and peak, it is still a rise greatly in excess of inflation however you package it.
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If I'm typical of family tourers part of the attraction of club (both) sites is that they are frequently cheaper than others in the same area in summer. Push peak prices too high and the attraction diminishes at a time when all alternative sites are open.
Clean and tidy though CC sites are I was drawn to paying £30+ per night rather than £45+
Assuming a proportion remain members beyond the times that they have children at school it makes better long term business sense to keep peak prices attractive to fill sites at the time when there's less demand on electricity etc.
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Owing to the high level of reports and accusations from this thread I will be closing it pending further investigation.
Thank you
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