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  • Briang
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    edited December 2016 #92

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish
    my money would go up like this.

  • HelenandTrevor
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    edited December 2016 #93

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish
    my money would go up like this.

    We stayed at Treamble Valley in October this year,  if we were to go for the same week next year ,  it would actually be about £10 cheaper ! ! Surprised

  • Kennine
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    edited December 2016 #94

    I regularly critisise club prices (for me off season) and the lack of immagination shown by Ho following the increased movement by commercial enterprises intothe non static market. However with the advent of the internet, Google etc we can now assess all sites including Cls quite well and can make a good guess at the quality we can expect in any location. The truth is Commercialsbare as good, usually  cheaper than CC ( off season) and compare very favourably with the same price increases seen now on CLs. My conclusion is that unless the CC wakes up, over the next say 5 years matters will be out of their hands. A problem for the next generation of vaners as in the meantime I will select the best option for my needs.

    Exactly the point that I've made several times. Well said!

    ..I have to agree.  Well Said. !!!

    Those who cannot abide any post which doesnt toe the Company line on current CC prices and submit alternatives,,,, seem to forget that this is a Discussion forum and people are actually allowed to post their honest opinion on the subject indicated by the thread heading.

    Cheers...................K 

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2016 #95

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish my money would go up like this.

    Is the holiday at exactly the same time? As looking at September prices,  they only seem to have increased by 3.7%

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited December 2016 #96

    When I last used a Club site it was full and I paid £21 to park on a sloping muddy grass pitch, this was at the end of a 77 night continental tour where I had paid an average of £13.97 a night . Judging by that I think they can charge what they like
    and still fill the sites

    Can't say that I have pitched on a sloping muddy grass pitch on a CC site. But for a hard standing I would be happy to pay £21. I could certainly find commercial sites of similar quality to the usual CC sites at dearer prices without hardship.

    Seems to compare favourably with a £21 continental site giving the amazing reported cheapness of those sites. 

    I think you misunderstand , the £21 site was Blaydon Chains and I was on my way home from Portsmouth. Whilst away  I had paid at 12 different sites between £10 and that  £21 .Like many consideration of  location and whether it suits us comes way before  price
    but there is no getting away from the fact that we wouldn't have had 77 nights for £1043 using club sites

    Write your comments here...you have to factor in ferry cost,and ins as well

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2016 #97

    So if I made comparison on the price of Dunnet Bay, would I have to factor in the cost of fuel from the south coast to the top of Scotland?

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #98

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish my money would go up like this.

    Is the holiday at exactly the same time? As looking at September prices,  they only seem to have increased by 3.7%

    Only 3.7% ?

    Only 4 times the rate of inflation?

    And that is taking an optimistic comparison.....many are far higher increases.

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #99

    So if I made comparison on the price of Dunnet Bay, would I have to factor in the cost of fuel from the south coast to the top of Scotland?

    Exactly!

  • Spriddler
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    edited December 2016 #100

    I motoroam solo approx only 25% in U.K. and rarely use CC sites, preferring CLs, vinyards or Aires etc. However, I never stay anywhere for more than two consecutive nights so as long as there's (preferably but not essentially) a CDP and water I'm happy, regardless of pricing, and may return later on my tour if I particularly like the site. As previously said by others, it's my retirement leisure passion and the cost is not even a consideration. My choice is based solely upon location and availability. I only stayed two nights this year on each of two CC sites; Smedmore to walk around the Jurassic coast and Hunters Moon to visit Corfe Castle. Smedmore was very sloping (one could say steep) soggy grass and no loos or showers but that didn't concern me at all, and Hunters Moon was noisy and regimented so didn't appeal to me as a site to use again. I spend far more on diesel than I do on pitches.

    I have the impression that tuggers tend to stay on one site for longer periods than motoroamers (I could be wrong so don't castigate me) and can see that to them the site's quality, price, facilities and location is more important than if moving on regularly. If I was a tugger and staying for a week or two with kids then immaculate showers and loos and access to play facilities, a pool and proximity to the seaside and cost would be important.

     

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2016 #101

    So if I made comparison on the price of Dunnet Bay, would I have to factor in the cost of fuel from the south coast to the top of Scotland?

    If you wanted to factor in a cost per night I suppose you would have to, along with all the other associated costs such as caravan insurance, depreciation, additional costs spent on a tow car. If I could ever be bothered the total figure would probably be
    horrendous. I just look at am I happy with what I am getting for my money overall. If the answer was not yes, we would not be caravanning.

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2016 #103

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish
    my money would go up like this.

    Is the holiday at exactly the same time? As looking at September prices,  they only seem to have increased by 3.7%

    Only 3.7% ?

    Only 4 times the rate of inflation?

    And that is taking an optimistic comparison.....many are far higher increases.

    As has been pointed out on more than one occasion, we do not know what the true rise is. Some prices have been frozen, some prices increased. Some peaks extended making the same stay a week apart more expensive, some reduced with the opposite result. Unless
    I have missed it, the CC have not stated  the overall percentage increase, that results from these changes. I also would point out that above inflation increases are not restricted to the CC, or even the leisure industry.

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2016 #104

    So if I made comparison on the price of Dunnet Bay, would I have to factor in the cost of fuel from the south coast to the top of Scotland?

    If you wanted to factor in a cost per night I suppose you would have to, along with all the other associated costs such as caravan insurance, depreciation, additional costs spent on a tow car. If I could ever be bothered the total figure would probably be
    horrendous. I just look at am I happy with what I am getting for my money overall. If the answer was not yes, we would not be caravanning.

    .Steves right...but, no doubt if someone did bother to do this calculation, ferry costs would pale into insignificance compared to depreciation, insurance (ask MM...), tax etc.....£80 each way spread over (say) 80 nights aint a lot when continental sites
    are usually far cheaper and offer far more in terms of facilities, staffing, flexibility etc, etc...

    so, lets not keep bringing this red herring up when folk provide these comparisons.....its just how it is....Happy

     

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2016 #105

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

    well I see you are going to the Ian school of posting; if you can't put forward a reasoned arguement attack poeple for actually posting on a forum. wow. Pot kettle black there BB. 

    PS does BB stand for band waggon?Smile

    Corners, youve done really well to get everything wrong in your post....

    1. i didnt mention you (were your ears burning?)

    2. i was not offering any sort of argument, merely an observation on last nights frenzy of postings

    3. BB....band wagon....??  wouldnt that be BW.Undecided

    ps, thanks for insulting me on a Sunday Morning (pot/kettle), not very nice....

    pps, a very good morning to you....dont take everything to heartHappy

    never! And its band waggon boy, hey take that as a compliment, its used to be bully boy - remember how you proudly boasted you liked to ruffle feathers for certain postersWink

    Good morning to you too

    sorry, Corners, i didnt realise you were paying me a compliment.....something must have got lost in translation...but, if you were, then thanks.Happy

    ...and if your feathers got ruffled as a result of my post (which seems to have been the case) again i apologise as it was not intended.....

    you seem to have managed this all on your ownHappy

  • peedee
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    edited December 2016 #106

     

    Speaking as a "tugger" (dont like the expression sounds rather insulting)

    Will "skate board" do instead? Smile

    peedee

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  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #108

    So if I made comparison on the price of Dunnet Bay, would I have to factor in the cost of fuel from the south coast to the top of Scotland?

    Not at all. But if doing a comparison with CC sites and when looking at Dunnets Bay you should compare with a coastal site in that area rather than with somewhere in the Algarve. roll eyes

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #109

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish
    my money would go up like this.

    Is the holiday at exactly the same time? As looking at September prices,  they only seem to have increased by 3.7%

    Only 3.7% ?

    Only 4 times the rate of inflation?

    And that is taking an optimistic comparison.....many are far higher increases.

    And, depending on the period, some are reduced from last year as well as differing increases. To me it makes sense to consider each site and presumably its booking history and the price structures of similar standard sites in the area when settling on new
    pricings

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #110

    I have the impression that tuggers tend to stay on one site for longer periods than motoroamers (I could be wrong so don't castigate me) and can see that to them the site's quality, price, facilities and location is
    more important than if moving on regularly. If I was a tugger and staying for a week or two with kids then immaculate showers and loos and access to play facilities, a pool and proximity to the seaside and cost would be important.

     

    When I caravanned with kids we usually moved every few days. Although we did usually stay for 8 or 9 days each year on a particular non facility site. Most caravanners I come across tend to stay 4 or 5 days it seems although many do stay longer

  • Fisherman
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    edited December 2016 #111

    Actual example pre 2016 we would average 80/100CC nights per annum. 2016 down to27 for similar overall usage. In respect of Dunnet Bay.Would not pay £19-50 for a night on a sand dune,No need for EHU in North Scotland in May/June.Wild camping locally ( with
    good value fishing)so readily available.

  • Briang
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    edited December 2016 #112

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish my money would go up like this.

    Is the holiday at exactly the same time? As looking at September prices,  they only seem to have increased by 3.7%

    The comparison is for the same time and dates. Where you get 3.7% from I don't know. I'm comparing what i paid this year to what i would pay next year.

    Another one we stayed on is Hillhead in June same thing time this year £360.00 2 weeks  2017  £348.60 a decrease of £11.40

  • Spriddler
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    edited December 2016 #113

     

     

    Speaking as a "tugger" (dont like the expression sounds rather insulting)

    Apologies AD, no intention. Just lazy shorthand for 'caravanners'.

    I've never towed a 'van but when I was ten my parents took me by train to a hired a static 'van on a coastal site in Dorset for a rare and special holiday away from home. I loved it; hissing aromatic Calor gas lights, converted oil drum Elsan toilets in
    a lean-to, foot-pumped cold tap at the sink, rain pattering on the roof day and night for a week, Pac-a-Macs and wellies, no showers (hardly anyone had showers at home or away!). It was cheap and cheerful but I prefer to keep on the move nowadays.

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  • moulesy
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    edited December 2016 #115

    Well hasn't this thread developed along depressingly predictable lines! Wink

    I don't suppose anyone's actually bothered to check what the increases at any of the commercial chains are for 2017 have they?

    Me, I'll still use CC sites if they're where we want to go and the price is reasonable, but I'll spend more time on CLs no doubt! Laughing

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  • Briang
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    edited December 2016 #117

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish
    my money would go up like this.

    Is that for one week or two?

    That's 2 weeks

  • Briang
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    edited December 2016 #118

    Another one we went to in May New Forest Centennary Site 2 weeks £344.40 same time and date 2 weeks 2017  £362.60 an increase of £18.20.

    The best was 2 weeks in Porthmadog North Wales in April £184.50 full service pitch on hardstanding. Will be going again but in March haven't priced it yet but would be around the £160.00 full service pitch on hardstanding.

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2016 #119

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish
    my money would go up like this.

    Is that for one week or two?

    That's 2 weeks

    ..Just over.£2.00 a dayUndecided

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  • Briang
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    edited December 2016 #121

    Just had a look at some of the prices we paid last year. We stayed on Treamble Valley CC site in September this year cost £248.30. Price for the same time in September 2017 £277.20. That's £28.90 extra.That is a big increase on this year. Over 10% I wish
    my money would go up like this.

    Is that for one week or two?

    That's 2 weeks

    ..Just over.£2.00 a dayUndecided

    It's still over 10%. rise. Does your pension go up by over 10% I don't think so.