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  • Fisherman
    Fisherman Forum Participant Posts: 2,367
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    edited December 2016 #62

    I regularly critisise club prices (for me off season) and the lack of immagination shown by Ho following the increased movement by commercial enterprises intothe non static market. However with the advent of the internet, Google etc we can now assess all
    sites including Cls quite well and can make a good guess at the quality we can expect in any location. The truth is Commercialsbare as good, usually  cheaper than CC ( off season) and compare very favourably with the same price increases seen now on CLs. My
    conclusion is that unless the CC wakes up, over the next say 5 years matters will be out of their hands. A problem for the next generation of vaners as in the meantime I will select the best option for my needs.

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2016 #63

    there are always a plethora of 'high price' threads on CT, so it must be something that concerns plenty of members.

    yes, they can 'go elsewhere', but for those who enjoy what the club has to offer but are finding the ever increasing prices a bit of a struggle (fixed income, poor investment/pension return), this doesnt feel like a welcoming
    solution...Sad

  • Kennine
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    edited December 2016 #64

    The problem with the CC's pricing policy is that it is too wishy washy.       Everybody knows that, on many sites, the charges could be greatly increased during weekends and peak season and there will still be a good demand for pitches.

    This would improve overall income and allow the CC to reduce site charges during off peak seasons and midweek to encourage otherwise unused pitches to be filled.

     

    Cheers ........K

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited December 2016 #65

    I occasionally use commercial sites when I cannot find a club site near to where I wish to be (apart from affiliated sites which I also use). I cannot honnestly say that I have found those that
    achieve the same sort of standards are greatly cheaper; if cheaper at all. Some have free wifi from a central point, usually near reception. No interest to me to use such wifi. Some offer wiffi through a provider. That can be relatively expensive.
    I have cerainly paid £5 for 3 nights usage as I wanted to send one e-mail following the death of a friend's husband. 

     

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #66

    The problem with the CC's pricing policy is that it is too wishy washy.       Everybody knows that, on many sites, the charges could be greatly increased during weekends and peak season and there will still be a good demand for pitches.

    This would improve overall income and allow the CC to reduce site charges during off peak seasons and midweek to encourage otherwise unused pitches to be filled.

     

    Cheers ........K

    If you want that style of pricing K I suggest you use those sites that use such systems. I personally do not want it

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2016 #67

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

  • brue
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    edited December 2016 #68

    I recognise the CC offer different prices in the main season compared with the larger commercial enterprises. I think the CC prices are lower. However the big enterprises offer a "package" usually an entertainment, activity and food complex or similar. Child centred activities are often part of the deal, handing over children to someone else for a few hours.

    With the CC, for less money, you get a reasonably peaceful atmosphere, no large crowds from static van areas and a completely different experience. Even Hillhead, which is fairly sedate and does have a social and pool complex is not on the scale or level of these big commercial sites.

    My main gripe about pricing is paying the same price for greatly varying pitches. If I can't book a hardstanding I might find myself on a muddy patch for the same price. I don't want to see hardstandings everywhere, there are sites like St Agnes in special areas that need to return to the "wild" in the winter and blend into the landscape. But I do think the CC is failing in not allowing pitch types to be booked and adjusting prices for all types of pitch not just serviced ones or non ehu.

  • Kennine
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    edited December 2016 #69

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

    Write your comments here... . Good points BB.  Strangely we always find that posting levels go up when individual members dare to suggest that there could be a better and more effective way of the CC increasing their income.

    The "we've always done it this way and you have no right to suggest another way"  attitude is so prevalent even on this particular thread. . . . Not good !!!!

    Cheers .........K

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  • moulesy
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    edited December 2016 #72

    I do find some of the comments on threads like this difficult to get my head around.

    Given all the choices out there, and given the ease of researching all the alternatives, why continue to use CC sites regularly and still come on here complaining about the prices/standards/facilities etc etc?

    It's been said often enough, the club will only start acting on (perceived) high prices if folk vote with their wallets and go elsewhere. As long as the club's harshest critics ( on here) continue to smile and stump up cash for, say 40+ nights a year on
    its sites, there is absolutely no incentive for them to do anything other than what they're doing at present. Why would they even think about changing? Undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #73

    When I last used a Club site it was full and I paid £21 to park on a sloping muddy grass pitch, this was at the end of a 77 night continental tour where I had paid an average of £13.97 a night . Judging by that I think they can charge what they like
    and still fill the sites

    Can't say that I have pitched on a sloping muddy grass pitch on a CC site. But for a hard standing I would be happy to pay £21. I could certainly find commercial sites of similar quality to the usual CC sites at dearer prices without hardship.

    Seems to compare favourably with a £21 continental site giving the amazing reported cheapness of those sites. 

    I think you misunderstand , the £21 site was Blaydon Chains and I was on my way home from Portsmouth. Whilst away  I had paid at 12 different sites between £10 and that  £21 .Like many consideration of  location and whether it suits us comes way before  price
    but there is no getting away from the fact that we wouldn't have had 77 nights for £1043 using club sites

    My mistype David. I meant that-  given the reported cheapness of continental sites. £21 here seems to compare favourably to average of £14 on the continent where sites are seemingly much cheaper.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2016 #74

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

    well I see you are going to the Ian school of posting; if you can't put forward a reasoned arguement attack poeple for actually posting on a forum. wow. Pot kettle black there BB. 

    PS does BB stand for band waggon?Smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2016 #75

    I do find some of the comments on threads like this difficult to get my head around.

    Given all the choices out there, and given the ease of researching all the alternatives, why continue to use CC sites regularly and still come on here complaining about the prices/standards/facilities etc etc?

    It's been said often enough, the club will only start acting on (perceived) high prices if folk vote with their wallets and go elsewhere. As long as the club's harshest critics ( on here) continue to smile and stump up cash for, say 40+ nights a year on
    its sites, there is absolutely no incentive for them to do anything other than what they're doing at present. Why would they even think about changing? Undecided

    A very good post, Agree completely

    PS sorry for posting yet again BB

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2016 #76

    The problem with the CC's pricing policy is that it is too wishy washy.       Everybody knows that, on many sites, the charges could be greatly increased during weekends and peak season and there will still be a good demand for pitches.

    This would improve overall income and allow the CC to reduce site charges during off peak seasons and midweek to encourage otherwise unused pitches to be filled.

     

    Cheers ........K

    It sounds as though you are trying to turn the club into the preserve of us retired well off / not so well off members and damn the workers and those with schoolage children. So along with our concessionary bus pass, reduced entry to many places and midweek
    discount on some sites, you want further discounts at their expense. What then happens when we stop vanning. Lack of pensions / waiting longer for them will mean few are available to go away as we do now. So do we raise weekend and peak prices even higher?
     If CLUB is to be left in the name things should continue as they are, with a reasonably priced peak / weekends. Not squeezing those who have no choice, so we can have cheaper holidays.

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #77

    Just to correct a comment that was made earlier about CC sites being of a generally higher standard.......not the case, I'm afraid. As David's example of a muddy patch at Bladon Chains demonstrates (exactly the same as we had there once).

    CC sites are reasonable, but actually only an average standard. Some commercials might be worse (although through a bit of research, we haven't been to any that are) and many are far better.....and always cheaper.

    Some of the fan club might find that out for themselves, if they were just a little less timid about trying something outside the safety net that they see the CC being.

    In doing so, they would send the message to the CC that they need to take a closer look at their overheads and their site pricing.

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #78

    The problem with the CC's pricing policy is that it is too wishy washy.       Everybody knows that, on many sites, the charges could be greatly increased during weekends and peak season and there will still be a good demand for pitches.

    This would improve overall income and allow the CC to reduce site charges during off peak seasons and midweek to encourage otherwise unused pitches to be filled.

     

    Cheers ........K

    A good post! 

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #79

    If CLUB is to be left in the name things should continue as they are, with a reasonably priced peak / weekends. Not squeezing those who have no choice, so we can have cheaper holidays.

    Well put. There are always commercials for those that dislike the club's take on pricing

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #80

    I regularly critisise club prices (for me off season) and the lack of immagination shown by Ho following the increased movement by commercial enterprises intothe non static market. However with the advent of the internet, Google etc we can now assess all
    sites including Cls quite well and can make a good guess at the quality we can expect in any location. The truth is Commercialsbare as good, usually  cheaper than CC ( off season) and compare very favourably with the same price increases seen now on CLs.
    My conclusion is that unless the CC wakes up, over the next say 5 years matters will be out of their hands. A problem for the next generation of vaners as in the meantime I will select the best option for my needs.

    Exactly the point that I've made several times. Well said!

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #81

    My conclusion is that unless the CC wakes up, over the next say 5 years matters will be out of their hands. A problem for the next generation of vaners as in the meantime I will select the best option for my needs.

    Some would have said the same thing 10 years ago and some may well be saying the same thing 10 years hence.

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2016 #82

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

    well I see you are going to the Ian school of posting; if you can't put forward a reasoned arguement attack poeple for actually posting on a forum. wow. Pot kettle black there BB. 

    PS does BB stand for band waggon?Smile

    Corners, youve done really well to get everything wrong in your post....

    1. i didnt mention you (were your ears burning?)

    2. i was not offering any sort of argument, merely an observation on last nights frenzy of postings

    3. BB....band wagon....??  wouldnt that be BW.Undecided

    ps, thanks for insulting me on a Sunday Morning (pot/kettle), not very nice....

    pps, a very good morning to you....dont take everything to heartHappy

  • BrianJosie
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    edited December 2016 #83

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

    well I see you are going to the Ian school of posting; if you can't put forward a reasoned arguement attack poeple for actually posting on a forum. wow. Pot kettle black there BB. 

    PS does BB stand for band waggon?Smile

    Corners, youve done really well to get everything wrong in your post....

    1. i didnt mention you (were your ears burning?)

    2. i was not offering any sort of argument, merely an observation on last nights frenzy of postings

    3. BB....band wagon....??  wouldnt that be BW.Undecided

    ps, thanks for insulting me on a Sunday Morning (pot/kettle), not very nice....

    pps, a very good morning to you....dont take everything to heartHappy

    Write your comments here...Just to let you know BB I've just liked your postWinkCoolHappy

    Brian & Jo

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2016 #84

    and I, yours....Happy

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2016 #85

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

    well I see you are going to the Ian school of posting; if you can't put forward a reasoned arguement attack poeple for actually posting on a forum. wow. Pot kettle black there BB. 

    PS does BB stand for band waggon?Smile

    Corners, youve done really well to get everything wrong in your post....

    1. i didnt mention you (were your ears burning?)

    2. i was not offering any sort of argument, merely an observation on last nights frenzy of postings

    3. BB....band wagon....??  wouldnt that be BW.Undecided

    ps, thanks for insulting me on a Sunday Morning (pot/kettle), not very nice....

    pps, a very good morning to you....dont take everything to heartHappy

    never! And its band waggon boy, hey take that as a compliment, its used to be bully boy - remember how you proudly boasted you liked to ruffle feathers for certain postersWink

    Good morning to you too

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2016 #86

    as usual, this topic will raise the posting levels, with some (last night) acheiving 'MM Gold Star' levels of 'contributions'....Wink

    well I see you are going to the Ian school of posting; if you can't put forward a reasoned arguement attack poeple for actually posting on a forum. wow. Pot kettle black there BB. 

    PS does BB stand for band waggon?Smile

    Corners, youve done really well to get everything wrong in your post....

    1. i didnt mention you (were your ears burning?)

    2. i was not offering any sort of argument, merely an observation on last nights frenzy of postings

    3. BB....band wagon....??  wouldnt that be BW.Undecided

    ps, thanks for insulting me on a Sunday Morning (pot/kettle), not very nice....

    pps, a very good morning to you....dont take everything to heartHappy

    Write your comments here...Just to let you know BB I've just liked your postWinkCoolHappy

    Brian & Jo

    So did I

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2016 #87

    There seems to be three types of posts, Those that think the club is worth paying the prices its sets

    Those that say it is too expensive and/or its not worth the price and go elsewhere. I respect that their views very much, and I don't try and change their views.

    Then there are those who say how expensive clubs sites are and not up to standard and not worth the price. How the rest of us are blind or too timid to go elsewhere and try and force their views on those that are happy with club sites. Yet they keep
    on going to club sites a lot
    . This group I can't understand and it could be said (though not by me) they are either paradoxical or trolling?

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  • compass362
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    edited December 2016 #89

    There seems to be three types of posts, Those that think the club is worth paying the prices its sets

    Those that say it is too expensive and/or its not worth the price and go elsewhere. I respect that their views very much, and I don't try and change their views.

    Then there are those who say how expensive clubs sites are and not up to standard and not worth the price. How the rest of us are blind or too timid to go elsewhere and try and force their views on those that are happy with club sites. Yet they keep on going to club sites a lot. This group I can't understand and it could be said (though not by me) they are either paradoxical or trolling?

    Write your comments here...Well put sir nail on the head 100% correct

  • eurortraveller
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    edited December 2016 #90

    Quiet voice in the corner here .....I haven't the faintest idea what Club sites cost. It's four years since I gave them up. 

  • brue
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    edited December 2016 #91

    The "mystery liker" is very active on this thread. Liking all opinions! Undecided