Pitch allocation

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  • mickysf
    mickysf Forum Participant Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭
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    edited November 2016 #32

    We were on a site recently where it was explained that large units were expected and pitches had had to be coned. They said that the owners of the large units could choose any pitch they could fit on however, those coned were there just in case they were
    one of the last in. They said this management ensured all who arrived, no matter what time or size, would fit on a pitch. Seemed very sensible to me and I guess to all of us with larger units.

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited November 2016 #33

    If the site policy is to allocate pitches, and everyone is clearly aware of that at booking, then its fine. Surely the flip side though is that it would mean you could allocate two next to each other for family/friends which wasnt done in this case.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #34

    If the site policy is to allocate pitches, and everyone is clearly aware of that at booking, then its fine. Surely the flip side though is that it would mean you could allocate two next to each other for family/friends which wasnt done in this case.

    Shame innit

  • Fozzie
    Fozzie Club Member Posts: 551
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    edited November 2016 #35

    Cambridge Cherry Hinton has allocated pitches due to the  very nature of the site.I was allocated a pitch in one of the cul de sacs and thankfully I had a motor mover.Would I have picked it probably,not but, it was very peaceful.I was aware of allocated pitches before arrival.Not sure why Bearstead has allocated pitches though.

    It does not seem to say they are allocated on the web site, unless I missed it. Only been twice once about 8 years ago when we certainly picked our pitch and again 3 years ago, when we were sort of allocated, as there were only two left.

    Write your comments here...Steve to quote the handbook it states,

    "Some pitches are limited in size and shape so some pre allocation may be necessary."

    As the site was full last weekend, I can easily understand the site managers choice of pitch for my caravan.

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #36

    If the site policy is to allocate pitches, and everyone is clearly aware of that at booking, then its fine. Surely the flip side though is that it would mean you could allocate two next to each other for family/friends which wasnt done in this case.

     If the site policy is to allocate due to size of pitches then allocating for family/friends who have yet to arrive does not fit that policy. Surely the thing to do is for the family/freinds to arrive at the same time and take their choice and chance with the rest of us! At least they will get a choice, often those with large outfits who arrive will have little if any choice they may have to take whatever is allocated to their size of outfit.

  • DSB
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    edited November 2016 #37

    Whenever I've been to Black Horse Farm, I've had an allocated pitch.

    David 

    We were allocated an area, but could select a specific pitch.

    Probably the main reason we've been allocated a pitch is that we've nearly always been to BHF out of the main season and the office has been closed.  Our pitch details have been left on a note on the noticeboard.

    The last time we went was coming back from France in the summer.  They changed our pitch after we discussed our requirements with them.

    David 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2016 #38

    The problem with BHF is that they often have more overnighters than they have ferry pitches so I expect they use allocation as a means of organising the use of pitches.

    David

  • KeefySher
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    edited November 2016 #39

    When we arrived at Baltic Wharf recently, after securing a booking 6 days before, we had a pitch allocated, as had 2 other arrivals after us. There was a zip up plastic bag with pitch map and route marked on it, fob for the main gate, key for the secret
    door and a note to catch the wardnes to pay fees the following morning.

    Worked well for us and the other campers. It wasn't life threatening, didn't cause any harm, and we thorouhlyy enjoyed our weekend there. Tongue Out

    BW appears a well managed site and is always full, apparently. Can only summise folks enjoy the allocation process employed to facilitate use of this site. Tongue Out

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  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #42

    "BW appears a well managed site and is always full, apparently. Can only summise folks enjoy the allocation process employed to facilitate use of this site. Tongue Out"

    i imagine the the high occupancy rate of BW has everything to do with its specific location and not too much to do with the allocation, or otherwise, of pitches there.

    im sure that most who wish to visit bristol would be delighted with any pitch there....at any timeWink

    In our many visits to BW individual pitch allocation is not the general rule. There are a few pitches that only take up to 6.5 metres and as our van is longer we could not use those, but all the others of our booking type were up for grabs. I assume as the
    site fills and fewer spaces are left, someone with a small van would probably be directed to a small pitch, if other large vans were expected. However, this does not seem the case just after 12, when we arrive. If you arrive after hours your pitch is assigned
    and left on the board as KS says, although by that time there would be little choice in any event, as the site is normally full.

  • mickysf
    mickysf Forum Participant Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭
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    edited November 2016 #43

    This thread is indicating that a few site really do need careful management in order to allocate, for site specfic reasons, the day to day arrivals and departures. Call such actions warden discretion or site management, the end result is the same, everyone should have a pitch appropriate to unit size or they will be in an area where their nocturnal movements disturb few or their medical/infirmity/disability needs are best met. Sounds very sensible to me. 

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited November 2016 #44

    If the site policy is to allocate pitches, and everyone is clearly aware of that at booking, then its fine. Surely the flip side though is that it would mean you could allocate two next to each other for family/friends which wasnt done in this case.

     If the site policy is to allocate due to size of pitches then allocating for family/friends who have yet to arrive does not fit that policy. Surely the thing to do is for the family/freinds to arrive at the same time and take their choice and chance with
    the rest of us! At least they will get a choice, often those with large outfits who arrive will have little if any choice they may have to take whatever is allocated to their size of outfit.

    Ahh but 'warden's discretion' over rules any policy.

     We dont caravan with family or friends so it doesnt affect us, and our current van is 8m and we did run an RV which was always counted as a large outfit even though it was only 23cm longer, so we have been affected by limited choice of pitches.

    What would happen if the friends who wanted to be together both had large outfits - then they could get allocated pitches together. It just seems silly - if pitches are allocated the warden could have allocated them together and had a happy pair of customers
    and there is no real reason not to.

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #45

    If the site policy is to allocate pitches, and everyone is clearly aware of that at booking, then its fine. Surely the flip side though is that it would mean you could allocate two next to each other for family/friends which wasnt done in this case.

     If the site policy is to allocate due to size of pitches then allocating for family/friends who have yet to arrive does not fit that policy. Surely the thing to do is for the family/freinds to arrive at the same time and take their choice and chance with the rest of us! At least they will get a choice, often those with large outfits who arrive will have little if any choice they may have to take whatever is allocated to their size of outfit.

    Ahh but 'warden's discretion' over rules any policy.

     We dont caravan with family or friends so it doesnt affect us, and our current van is 8m and we did run an RV which was always counted as a large outfit even though it was only 23cm longer, so we have been affected by limited choice of pitches.

    What would happen if the friends who wanted to be together both had large outfits - then they could get allocated pitches together. It just seems silly - if pitches are allocated the warden could have allocated them together and had a happy pair of customers and there is no real reason not to.

    When would you wish to have these pitches allocated? At booking, on the day of arrival or on arrival? The latter would be fine as long as both parties arrive together! And, if it was done prior to any arrivals what happens if you are not happy at all about where the allocated pitches are, would you then just put up with them? 

    It's a no for me, let's just stick with the arrangements we presently have!

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #46

    Just to add, I have been on sites with friends and family, I'm happy if I'm just two or three minutes walk away. We still spend lots of time with each other and share our holiday. You don't have to be next to them to enjoy being together on site!

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited November 2016 #47

    When would you wish to have these pitches allocated? At booking, on the day of arrival or on arrival? The latter would be fine as long as both parties arrive together! And, if it was done prior to any arrivals what happens if you are not happy at all about where the allocated pitches are, would you then just put up with them? 

    It's a no for me, let's just stick with the arrangements we presently have!

    On most sites where pitches arent allocated all of the above are valid.  On the site the OP wrote about pitches were allocated anyway so how/when they were allocated and on what grounds are irrelevant. You get the pitch you are allocated whether you like it or not.  On that particular site why the warden couldnt allocate two next to each other to accomodate the people who wanted to pitch together when they were all allocated anyway seems odd to me.

     I am not suggesting that on 'normal' sites pitches should be saved routinely for family and friends - just that if they are being allocated anyway then they might as well do it to help people.

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #48

    I'm guessing that the answer to that is that on those few sites where exceptions 'essential allocations' are made they are made for very specific site reasons. I'd also bet that these exceptions are kept to a minimum in order to maintain the club principle of first come first served wherever and whenever possible. Being next-door to a friend who may be arriving hours later does not fit that expection and any such allocation would reduce choice even further for others who arrive earlier what with 'essential allocations' also being made on said site. 

  • Kennine
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    edited November 2016 #49

    Pitch allocation is quite acceptable if done for the right reasons. The wardens have the right to amend site rules as they see fit.-- It's called "Warden's Discretion".  I'm sure there will be times when the Wardens will use this right to allocate pitches.

    Cheers ..................K 


  • KeefySher
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    edited November 2016 #50

    A lightbulb moment!! Happy

    If you are a pair of caravanners, this won't be applicable to a MHer; tow the first caravan to site with a VW T5 type vehicle that has no gas connected so it looks like a MH. Pitch the caravan on one pitch and remove the number plate. Then park the  pseudo
    MH on the adjacent pitch until your companions arrive, move the PMH back to your own pitch. Job done.

    You've made your choice as per the rules. Later arrivals have their choice of pitches available also as per the rules.

    All that has happened is discretion to the roolz has been applied to your favour Tongue Out

    Overthinking by some on occasions on here Tongue Out

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  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #52

    A lightbulb moment!! Happy

    If you are a pair of caravanners, this won't be applicable to a MHer; tow the first caravan to site with a VW T5 type vehicle that has no gas connected so it looks like a MH. Pitch the caravan on one pitch and remove the number plate. Then park the  pseudo
    MH on the adjacent pitch until your companions arrive, move the PMH back to your own pitch. Job done.

    You've made your choice as per the rules. Later arrivals have their choice of pitches available also as per the rules.

    All that has happened is discretion to the roolz has been applied to your favour Tongue Out

    Overthinking by some on occasions on here Tongue Out

    There is an easier way than that, just put up a sign saying motorhome using this pitch and remove it when your pals turn up.Tongue Out

    peedee

  • mickysf
    mickysf Forum Participant Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭
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    edited November 2016 #53

     

    There is an easier way than that, just put up a sign saying motorhome using this pitch and remove it when your pals turn up.Tongue Out

    peedee

    Good try but you haven't got that key fob then site staff will be indicating that that pitch is free to those just arriving.  You may be in bother!Wink

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #54

     

    There is an easier way than that, just put up a sign saying motorhome using this pitch and remove it when your pals turn up.Tongue Out

    peedee

    Good try but you haven't got the key fob then site staff will be indicating that that pitch is free to those just arriving.  You may be in bother!Wink

    ..it's working here for our friends who are co in later u sEing our old mv sign as you find a pitch then advise warden which you have gone on to receive barrier cardWink

  • KeefySher
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    edited November 2016 #55

     

    There is an easier way than that, just put up a sign saying motorhome using this pitch and remove it when your pals turn up.Tongue Out

    peedee

    Good try but you haven't got the key fob then site staff will be indicating that that pitch is free to those just arriving.  You may be in bother!Wink

    ..it's working here for our friends who are co in later u sEing our old mv sign as you find a pitch then advise warden which you have gone on to receive barrier cardWink

    HappyA fatal flaw in your subterfuge. You are on a CC site on the Cambs/Herts border, nose out, with pitch to one side occupied by a unit
    where the car is parked on the near side, the next pitch on the othe side has a MH sign and you have a 45 Year Award sticker displayed in your van. Any wardens reading CT? Tongue Out

    All gleaned from your posts over the past few days. Digital footprints are dangerous. Tongue Out

    I trust you take this in good humour!! Happy

     

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited November 2016 #56

    Ve haf veys of finding out.

    A more legitimate ploy might be to leave half a dozen kids bikes laying around on your pitch. Fourteen dogs tethered to a stake, a flagpole with some sort of whirly gizmo that rattles in the breeze should do the trick. You should have the whole corner of the site to yourself. Wink

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #57

    If it really matters that much to have them right alongside, rather than a short distance away on site, a commercial alternative that allows pitch booking is probably a better idea

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #58

    Or arranging to arrive together.

  • Spriddler
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    edited November 2016 #59

    Ve haf veys of finding out.

    A more legitimate ploy might be to leave half a dozen kids bikes laying around on your pitch. Fourteen dogs tethered to a stake, a flagpole with some sort of whirly gizmo that rattles in the breeze should do the trick. You should have the whole corner of the site to yourself. Wink

    You don't need the dogs, just a couple of large and prominent feed bowls.

    When mooring alongside a quay or pontoon one of the guys in my yacht club used to ensure that other yachts rarely rafted alongside him by hanging a few grubby borrowed nappies on the guardrail, or peg a scribbled sign on the dodgers:

    'Party tonight.

    Everyone welcome.

    Bring a bottle'.

  • Dawn F
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    edited November 2016 #60

    We had a problem with this recently, we were due to arrive during the afternoon but due to work commitments we couldn't leave early so were due on site between 7-8pm.  My mum and dad arrived at lunch time, I had contacted the site the day before to say we
    were going to be late and could my dad book us in & pay for us, I even gave him my membership card but no they wouldn't do it!  It made what was a stressful enough journey even worse.  The reason for our visit to the site was to enable us to visit my 95 year
    old nan who was poorly in her care home.  Sometimes I think CC rules are just a little bit over the top.  At the end of the day the pitch was going to be paid for up front if we hadn't got there for the 8pm deadline they would not have been able to give the
    pitch to anyone else nor would they have got the cost of the pitch! 

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