Parking to the near side on site

JonCaz
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edited November 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

On a hs with awning pitch with parking to offside, if we choose not to erect an awning can we park the vehicle where the awning should be?

I ask as it would be a struggle if not impossible to get the wheelchair out and between vehicle and caravan.

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #2

    Yes!  most wardens wouldn't bat an eyelid, youmay however meet a jobsworth, we did recently but you will not be breaking fire regulations by parking where the awning would be so don't worry.

  • JonCaz
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    edited November 2016 #3

    Yes!  most wardens wouldn't bat an eyelid, youmay however meet a jobsworth, we did recently but you will not be breaking fire regulations by parking where the awning would be so don't worry.

    Thanks.... would that be the case even though we tow with a VW California classed as a motorhome 

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #4

    You could always go in forward on the pitch rather than reverse to the peg. That is quite acceptable.

    peedee

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2016 #5

    Yes!  most wardens wouldn't bat an eyelid, youmay however meet a jobsworth, we did recently but you will not be breaking fire regulations by parking where the awning would be so don't worry.

    Thanks.... would that be the case even though we tow with a VW California classed as a motorhome 

    Now that's a good question and I think that you need direction from HO on their attitude. Do you carry any gas bottles in the VW?

  • Bakers2
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    edited November 2016 #6

    You can't be the only caravanners who use a wheelchair and thus have this dilemma. Why not ask HQ to get a clear ruling? Saves any nasty feelings and upset in site spoiling your holiday.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #7

    Isn't the ruling such that if you are towing a caravan with a camper/motorhome, you can park both on the pitch but only use one to sleep and cook in and only plug 1 into the EHU. I would do as suggested and either contact the club HO or contact the warden
    of the site you are visiting first.

  • JonCaz
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    edited November 2016 #8

    Yes!  most wardens wouldn't bat an eyelid, youmay however meet a jobsworth, we did recently but you will not be breaking fire regulations by parking where the awning would be so don't worry.

    Thanks.... would that be the case even though we tow with a VW California classed as a motorhome 

    Now that's a good question and I think that you need direction from HO on their attitude. Do you carry any gas bottles in the VW?

    No gas on board the VW

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2016 #9

    JonCaz, Contact HO and explain that to them and see what they say. Copy their reply so that you can show it to the wardens on site.

  • ErnieJH
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    edited November 2016 #10

    This is a problem which could be soved if the standard layout was changed to Caravan/MH, Awning, Car on all pitches. Members without awnings would have a greater space to get in and out of the car, and the extra wide awnings that some MH (and some caravans)
    have would fit on the pitch. Some site have already adopted this, so why not all. 

  • eurortraveller
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    edited November 2016 #11

    As a non user of Club sites I have just read through this thread with some astonisment. Are there really rules on which side  one can park, whether one can use a gas ring in a camper van, and whether one needs to get rulings from Head Office to print out
    and show to wardens?  It's not tempting me back. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #12

    Done this many times as its easier to get to the car. As you can have car + van + awning or awning + van + car it is no problem.

    Providing your car is at least three meters from the next part of the next 'outfit' (car, caravan, awning, ) all is well. There may be some pitches where the car has to be at the front of the pitch but these are always indicated on the site plan.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #13

    As a non user of Club sites I have just read through this thread with some astonisment. Are there really rules on which side  one can park, whether one can use a gas ring in a camper van, and whether one needs to get rulings from Head Office to print out
    and show to wardens?  It's not tempting me back. 

    Write your comments here...Cool

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #14

    As a non user of Club sites I have just read through this thread with some astonisment. Are there really rules on which side  one can park, whether one can use a gas ring in a camper van, and whether one needs to get rulings from Head Office to print out
    and show to wardens?  It's not tempting me back. 

    no one is forcing you to use club sites, but if you decide to use you then you have to abide by the rules, don't you?

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #15

    I think the issue is that the caravan is towed by a campervan, not a problem on many commercial sites or C&CC but I seem to remember from way back when a warden posted advice on the CC rules.

     

    ET after the freedom of other sites it does at times feel a little constricting Frown we are using CC sites less and less.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited November 2016 #16

    Thank you Cornersteady. I think I get it. . My car can be a mere six inches from my own caravan because neither of them pose a fire risk to each other. But on the other side there has to be a certain number of metres because on that side it would pose a
    fire risk. Is that it? 

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #17

    Thank you Cornersteady. I think I get it. . My car can be a mere six inches from my own caravan because neither of them pose a fire risk to each other. But on the other side there has to be a certain number of metres because on that side it would pose a
    fire risk. Is that it? 

    Your car forms part of your unit, whilst perhaps desirable it would not be practical to have a 3 m gap between your car and van. It certainly would not work with an awning, a bit draughty.. Basically the prescribed gap is a fire break between your group
    of items and someone else's. Seems sensible enough to me. Back on topic, we often park on the near side if we decide not to deploy the roll out awning. We have never been told we should not do it.

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #18

    This is a problem which could be soved if the standard layout was changed to Caravan/MH, Awning, Car on all pitches. Members without awnings would have a greater space to get in and out of the car, and the extra wide awnings that some MH (and some caravans)
    have would fit on the pitch. Some site have already adopted this, so why not all. 

    This could cause problems with continental style vans without a power mover. If you are not able to go in front first, the van would have to be moved to the opposite ride of the pitch, in order for the awning to be deployed. This could, on many sites, place
    the van within 6m of van on the next pitch. So would work on sites with sufficient spacing, but not on all.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #19

    Thank you Cornersteady. I think I get it. . My car can be a mere six inches from my own caravan because neither of them pose a fire risk to each other. But on the other side there has to be a certain number of metres because on that side it would pose a
    fire risk. Is that it? 

    well yes! There has to be at least 3m from any part of your outfit to the next outfit.

    Are you serioulsy suggesting that you think that your own car should be parked 3m away from your van/MH. So each pitch, which now takes a car, van and awning with some space between the car and van has now to be increased to take 3m between car and van?
    I am interested in your answer.

    Of course your own car poses a fire risk to your caravan. There are risks in everything. If your car (heavan forbib) catches fire it may probably set fire to your van. The idea is to stop the fire spreading to the next pitch.

    But as always if you think club sites are such danagerous places please don't come to them

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited November 2016 #20

    This is a problem which could be soved if the standard layout was changed to Caravan/MH, Awning, Car on all pitches. Members without awnings would have a greater space to get in and out of the car, and the extra wide awnings that some MH (and some caravans)
    have would fit on the pitch. Some site have already adopted this, so why not all. 

    No thanks.   I quite like it as it is and wouldn't want my car parked right up against my awning, leaving me with absolutely nothing to look out at.

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2016 #21

    This is a problem which could be soved if the standard layout was changed to Caravan/MH, Awning, Car on all pitches. Members without awnings would have a greater space to get in and out of the car, and the extra wide awnings that some MH (and some caravans)
    have would fit on the pitch. Some site have already adopted this, so why not all. 

    No thanks.   I quite like it as it is and wouldn't want my car parked right up against my awning, leaving me with absolutely nothing to look out at.

    ...

    Whereas now you just at your neighbours car ..... Innocent

  • Metheven
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    edited November 2016 #22

    This is a problem which could be soved if the standard layout was changed to Caravan/MH, Awning, Car on all pitches. Members without awnings would have a greater space to get in and out of the car, and the extra wide awnings that some MH (and some caravans)
    have would fit on the pitch. Some site have already adopted this, so why not all. 

    No thanks.   I quite like it as it is and wouldn't want my car parked right up against my awning, leaving me with absolutely nothing to look out at.

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    Me neither, if I deploy the canopy and sit under it the last thing I want is a parked car in my face, much rather a few metres of open space.

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited November 2016 #23

    This is a problem which could be soved if the standard layout was changed to Caravan/MH, Awning, Car on all pitches. Members without awnings would have a greater space to get in and out of the car, and the extra wide awnings that some MH (and some caravans)
    have would fit on the pitch. Some site have already adopted this, so why not all. 

    No thanks.   I quite like it as it is and wouldn't want my car parked right up against my awning, leaving me with absolutely nothing to look out at.

    ...

    Whereas now you just at your neighbours car ..... Innocent

    A neighbour's car would be at least 3 metres away, probably with a grass strip in between, whereas I'd be expected to park my car with very little space between it and my awning. Happy

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2016 #24

    I'm sure the 'grass strip' would make all the difference Wink... the last strip we were next to was all of about 12" wide

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #25

    I'm with Jill and Dave on this. We don't put up a full awning so it's not a question of what we see from inside one. I'd just rather have the car tucked away on the other side of the van and sit out where I have a bit of space to relax on the open bit of
    "my" pitch. It's also easier to keep an eye on the dogs (always attached to their corkscrews on the grass of course!) Happy

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #26

    Am I missing something here? If you are using a wheelchair, why would you want to park a vehicle in a position which could obstruct entry and exit from the caravan.

    Peedee

  • Wildwood
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    edited November 2016 #27

    We often park by the door ifwe do not have the awning and have never had any problems. In general however we leave the area clear if it is sunny to provide somewhere to sit.

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #28

    But WW with a wheelchair you need a greater space for access.

    peedee

  • Whittakerr
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    edited November 2016 #29

    You could always move the car nearer the door while the wheelchair user gets in / out and then move it to the side of the van, assuming of course the wheelchair user is not the driver.

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #30

    The solution to this conundrum is, I believe, to do as the site info. suggests re pitching, that is. ....'if you wish to pitch differently ask the site staff'  They, I'm almost sure, would help you where possible and direct you
    to pitches which are capable of meeting your specific needs. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited November 2016 #31

    But WW with a wheelchair you need a greater space for access.

    peedee

    I agree you should speak to the wardens first to see what is possible. Not sure though why the car should be the door side unless you have a continental caravan though.