Showers v wash cubicles
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Why, if shower/toilet facilities are not needed, do we see the most opulent vans with full width bathrooms on full facility sites?
Too precious to dirty their own facilities maybe?
As we use our own facilities almost all the time, and have a reasonably opulent twin axle with full width bathroom, we do not understand why others with similar facilities would not use them.
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On a site this weekend I saw people walking from their service pitches in dressing gowns. I assume that they were going for a shower as it was too early for a pyjama party.
I can't understand why you would pay extra for a service pitch then not use the services?
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Like you see on most sites abroad, rows of lovely clean sinks.
I don't mind a couple of the cubicles but would like to see some sinks other than the 2 tiny little hand washing sinks We do clean our teeth in the van morning and night but I have seen people cleaning their teeth at the small handbasins, usually from small
camper vans or tenters maybe. I don't think some even now that there are cubicles.Reminds me of a forest site, in I think Potsdam, a year or so after the wall came down. Gents was a long block with about 20 or so sinks, all cold and two open showers in a room at the end. Hot water was a jury rigged immersion heater and ran out about 7:00.
They had at least replaced the planks with holes toilets, which were in a separate area of the wood, with portacabin ones, more suited to western ideas. And yet we get moans about CC facilities. Sorry off topic, just noticed we are in UK sites.???0 -
I think the washbasin private cubicles are outdated. They are a throwback to the days when you bathed once a week and had a 'strip-wash' on other days (my Grandma's era I think) and they should be reduced in
number and the space turned over to showers. I'm sure that most gents who want to shave and those people who use the basins to brush their teeth could do it in open washbasins, which take up far less space.I remember shaving and washing at communal sinks years ago. Then we progressed. I have no wish to turn the clock bacK Valda. If there are open sinks then you may use them if you wish. I wish to hang my clothes up behind me along with towel, place the items
I require on a counter top and ablute in privacy. I note that my OH does as well. On occasion I may not require to use a shower and choose to have a strip wash.Maybe we could put some horse troughs out back for those that don't wish a privacy cubicle.
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Why, if shower/toilet facilities are not needed, do we see the most opulent vans with full width bathrooms on full facility sites?
Too precious to dirty their own facilities maybe?
As we use our own facilities almost all the time, and have a reasonably opulent twin axle with full width bathroom, we do not understand why others with similar facilities would not use them.
If we are on a facility site then we generally use them - I have no desire to be cleaning the shower. If we are on a non facility site then we use those in the caravan.
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On a site this weekend I saw people walking from their service pitches in dressing gowns. I assume that they were going for a shower as it was too early for a pyjama party.
I can't understand why you would pay extra for a service pitch then not use the services?
Maybe they pay extra because they want a service pitch for reasons of their own
Yep I bet that is the case.
Do you ever wonder why people pay for a site with facilities and don't use them
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i understand that some might prefer to strip wash in a private cubicle, no issue with that at all, though if ever there was a throwback to the 'old days' this might be it....
however, its the ratio of those who prefer this type of ritual/ablute compared to those who wish to shower that is a bit askew, IMHO.
if not do away with cubicles, then it seems a change in bias would still be able to satisfy all abluting requirements.
BTW, even if going to the block for a shower, i would clean my teeth in the van....certainly saves having to come out of a shower and into a 'cubicle' with a sink and faff about (as Alan describes above) hanging up towel, finding space for washbag etc, just
to clean teeth....certainly a palaver too far for me....and thats two 'rooms' i would have had to commandeer for the morning ritual.....
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On a site this weekend I saw people walking from their service pitches in dressing gowns. I assume that they were going for a shower as it was too early for a pyjama party.
I can't understand why you would pay extra for a service pitch then not use the services?
Maybe they pay extra because they want a service pitch for reasons of their own
Yep I bet that is the case.
Do you ever wonder why people pay for a site with facilities and don't use them
In the case of our recent Stay because it was in an area we wanted to visit.
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We're on a service pitch but will be going for my shower in the shower/toilet block soon. We use a service pitch so that we don't have to use the aquaroll and wastemaster.
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Caravan manufacturers should read this thread. . As there are so many vanners who cannot bring themselves to use their on-board showers and toilets, there has to be a market for producing vans at a cheaper price without the unwanted facilities.
K
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We like service pitches and book them if available. However, with our old van with no end bathroom and poorly designed shower, we used the site facilities. It did however allow us to wash the dishes in the van with no humping of water. Now with end bathroom
and good shower we generally use the van, unless we want a longer shower.0 -
i guess it would still go in the same sort of sized area but it might be called 'wardrobe' or 'garage' if at the back....i would also guess it wouldnt be lined in white plastic and be quite vulnerable....
not sure about the market for a van like that though...
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"i guess it would still go in the same sort of sized area but it might be called 'wardrobe' or 'garage' if at the back....i would also guess it wouldnt be lined in white plastic and be quite vulnerable...."
You've made a similar point before, BB. But you'd be welcome to come and explain to us exactly how we do that in our small can. Sadly, no "garage" and the wardrobe is used as ....er...a wardrobe for our clothes and shoes. So all the other paraphernalia,
mainly bags of dog food, dog coats but also our wet coats etc are stored in the shower room. Which would explain why, like David, we don't use it as a shower. Our choice, obviously, and just the way we've always done things!
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We don't use the shower in the caravan, because it's in a tiny cubicle shared with the toilet (yes, our next caravan will have a bigger end bathroom!).
We use the toilet regularly for having a wee.......so we certainly couldn't do without a toilet.
So we use the site facilities for showers and dumping.......hope that's acceptable to others.
Don't know why anyone needs a cubicle in the toilet block to wash, shave or brush teeth though.....
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We don't use the shower in the caravan, because it's in a tiny cubicle shared with the toilet (yes, our next caravan will have a bigger end bathroom!).
We use the toilet regularly for having a wee.......so we certainly couldn't do without a toilet.
So we use the site facilities for showers and dumping.......hope that's acceptable to others.
Don't know why anyone needs a cubicle in the toilet block to wash, shave or brush teeth though.....
I don't know why anyone wont use there toilet for number twos Ian. I suppose that we are all different. I use a cubicle because I find it more comfortable. If I trim my beard in the caravan sink (rather small) I am bound to miss the sink with some trimmings. In a cubicle it will likely result in a few bits on the vanity area which are easily collected and disposed of. I accept that, for you, none facility sites are a no no and why would you use your shower therefore? Why do you want an end bathroom though? Is it to enable you to use non-facility sites?
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I love a long hot soapy shower and our old hymer caravan has a combined shower/toilet which i have used once whilst on a ths this summer and it was ok , but if i was to ever get a new caravan or mhome i would make sure i bought one with a shower cubicle
, because the shower curtain clung to me, but i have just dicovered that the toilet seat turns to give more space .......doh! So i tend to use site facilities .... But prefer my own loo
i also wish they would build larger shower cubicles cos everwhere seems
to get wet! Cheers mrs bc:)0 -
I also wish they would build larger shower cubicles cos everwhere seems to get wet! Cheers mrs bc:)
One site we atayed on this year, I think it was the Rutland AS site had facilities with wet room style shower, toilet and washbasin in one. Nice heated tiled floor. Lovely.
I agree that the seperate shower is a boon on non-facility sites
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I cannot comprehend this aversion to No.2's in the van. Given the choice, if taken short at 3am, between using the van's loo or getting dressed, trekking to the facilities block in the rain/cold, counducting business, returning through wet grass/puddles/snowdrifts
and then undressing re-donning nightwear before getting back into bed, getting an earful for waking spouse when closing van door, it seems like a no-brainer to me.0 -
ET - we would like an end bathroom mainly so that it would have a proper shower compartment - which we would use (maybe not exclusively though).
I would be tempted to use the toilet for solids but Mrs H is not too keen.....so perhaps unlikely to happen.
I've never been 'caught short' in the night, so that has never been an issue.
So it's you that leaves all those beard trimmings around the sink?!
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I cannot comprehend this aversion to No.2's in the van. Given the choice, if taken short at 3am, between using the van's loo or getting dressed, trekking to the facilities block in the rain/cold, counducting business, returning through wet grass/puddles/snowdrifts
and then undressing re-donning nightwear before getting back into bed, getting an earful for waking spouse when closing van door, it seems like a no-brainer to me.Write your comments here...you forgot to mention that you would then have to lug a big container of 5h1t around the site and empty and clean it not to mention trying to clean the toilet bowl of clingons and then having to fumigate the van to get rid of the
smell. This is after trying to fit a man sized 4r5e onto a child sized toilet seat :-)We only use the van for number 2 when we have to but much prefer to use a proper toilet with a proper flush where possible, and that is normally during the day as we have not been caught out in the night!!
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"i guess it would still go in the same sort of sized area but it might be called 'wardrobe' or 'garage' if at the back....i would also guess it wouldnt be lined in white plastic and be quite vulnerable...."
You've made a similar point before, BB. But you'd be welcome to come and explain to us exactly how we do that in our small can. Sadly, no "garage" and the wardrobe is used as ....er...a wardrobe for our clothes and shoes. So all the other paraphernalia,
mainly bags of dog food, dog coats but also our wet coats etc are stored in the shower room. Which would explain why, like David, we don't use it as a shower. Our choice, obviously, and just the way we've always done things!M, its quite simple, i was merely suggesting that, should a manufacturer decide to make a van without a shower, as in AD 's point (to which i was replying).....the space would/could be used in the same way (for storage) but perhaps constructed slightly differently....say,
from wallboard etc, perhaps with shelves, rackes, tie downs, a light, 12v/230v sockets, access from the outside etc, etc..so, this new/reused spare space (not a shower) might just be called...a wardrobe, a storage space, a garage.....whatever....
either way, if it wasnt actually built as a shower room, but still used as you do for storage, no doubt it would called something more appropriate than 'shower room full of stuff'....
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