Speed on sites AGAIN
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the layout of typical modern CC sites with straight site roads and long distance views all contribute to speed. Sites with narrow irregular road layouts and visual obstacles (trees) to limit sight lines do more than any thing else to reduce speed. ,
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the layout of typical modern CC sites with straight site roads and long distance views all contribute to speed. Sites with narrow irregular road layouts and visual obstacles (trees) to limit sight lines do more than any thing else to reduce speed. ,
Thats interesting because in recent years a few new houseing estates have been built near where we live and they have all adopted the design of short sections of straight roads so people tend to drive slower which is great .
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Not if they want customers they won't.
Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your statement?
Because people would not put up with it and go elsewhere.
No sane person would want to risk damaging their outfit.
Your calling me insane not very polite!!
However if you cant drive your unit through a chicane without damaging it then you should not be driving it. Or are you happy with people ignoring the speed limits and putting people at risk?post Deleted User
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Not if they want customers they won't.
Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your statement?
Because people would not put up with it and go elsewhere.
No sane person would want to risk damaging their outfit.
Your calling me insane not very polite!!
However if you cant drive your unit through a chicane without damaging it then you should not be driving it. Or are you happy with people ignoring the speed limits and putting people at risk?Thats a different question jeff.
No sane person is going to put their outfit at risk because a caravan site cannot get a grip of a speeding problem or any other problem. They will just go and camp elsewhere where there isn't a problem at all.
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Not if they want customers they won't.
Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your statement?
Because there would need to be physical barriers to weave through. Easy with a panel motorhome perhaps but not so easy with one of the larger pickups with an 8m shipping length 'van on the back.
I actually have a large 4x4 and a large caravan and dont see the problem as i regularily have to overcome said obstacles where i live and there is no speeding through there.
The difference, speaking as an ex-highway engineer, is tha tthe degree of constriction to constrain vehicles to less than 30mph is far less than that needed to restrain to 5mph
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when a caravanner flies over one of these, they are insulated from the racket inside their caravan...so may not realise the damage being caused.
those in a MH are 'right there' with the effects of going too fast over these things, so may approach with a little more reticence..
The stuff still all ends up on the floor though!
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Not if they want customers they won't.
Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your statement?
Because people would not put up with it and go elsewhere.
No sane person would want to risk damaging their outfit.
Your calling me insane not very polite!!
However if you cant drive your unit through a chicane without damaging it then you should not be driving it. Or are you happy with people ignoring the speed limits and putting people at risk?Thats a different question jeff.
No sane person is going to put their outfit at risk because a caravan site cannot get a grip of a speeding problem or any other problem. They will just go and camp elsewhere where there isn't a problem at all.
And again can you explain how driving through a chicane of the correct dimensions is putting your caravan /motorhome at risk, Oh yes thats right your going toFast!!
Oh and BTW you realy should stop calling people insane
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Not picking a fight with you at all but it would help if you came up with a valid reason for saying people who would drive through chicanes are not sane, or a valid reason for saying chicanes would not be the answer when road planners are using them more and more and it has been proven that a reduction in the perceived width of road is more of a speed deterent than speed humps.
Oh and sorry i did not realise that you knew what Most people would do.
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No not really jeff I am just telling you what most people would probably do.
I have not called anyone insane. Can you not understand english?
Why are you picking a fight with me?
Twice you have stated that only people who are not sane would drive their caravans through a chicane and risk damage. To me that is labelling someone who does as insane unless my grasp of the english language is incorrect. and again you are getting abusive by asking if i understand english!!
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On our recent 4 week trip, using 7 different sites, we got the impression that on 3 of them there was quite a bit of "speeding" going on.
On those 3 sites our pitch was in a position where most of the site traffic had to pass our pitch,and it often felt like units were going past at between 10 and 15+ mph, certainly well above a fast walking pace.
This was quite surprising as on those 3 sites our pitch was also on or just after a bend in the site road.
The "offenders" were a good mix of caravanners and MHers, of varying ages, but predominately older couples.
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Think the best way to stop speeding on sites is peer pressure.
Other campers confronting the speeder would indicate to all but the most dense that it's not acceptable. Those that are that dense should be asked to leave the site.
I think that would be far more effective than any other method especially if the warden backed up the other campers.
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On both CC and C&CC sites
I agree with kjellen, the worst offenders are at the older end of the age spectrum (40 upwards) Also speeding takes place both by drivers of Motorcaravans and Towed caravans.
The younger drivers, (under 40's) from what I've noticed tend to drive more considerately.
It is not the customers job to stop others from speeding on campsites. It is the responsibility of the Warden staff. . They alone have the authority to take action against offenders.
K
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The w/e is just as important to people over here and the competition for the best pitches is just as intense but ....
But without the 12 oclock deadline
....i thought arrivals had to be after 12?
Don't make me laugh. We were parked up (without caravan) on Sunday on Clementhorpe (road leading to Terry Avenue) and a white Volvo and caravan arrived at 11:15 and proceeded to turn right to the Club site.
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We stayed on a CC site and a CCC site last week and didn't notice a single speeder
Perhaps I don't really qualify to be a Caravan Club member
Does seem to vary a bit between sites. We stopped for a week at Grafham Water and everyone seemed very well behaved and the majority of people I met were over 40. So conflicts a bit with opinions expressed above. Where as I noticed numerous speeders during
our weeks at Abbey Wood and Cirencester. No idea on age, but both sites had a fair mix of age groups.0 -
By their very design caravans are not made to go over speed bumps.A caravan body flexes far more than is visible by the naked eye when going over an uneven surface.This has to lead to some of the many ingress problems.You only have to watch
how the van rocks from side to side as the contents of the cupboards can be heard rattleing about.But they are a fact of life these days as are the many potholes on our roads.In all honesty we should not need them on our sites should we.v9
I would agree with this assumption. However, some folk don't help matters by the way they go over them. I more or less come to a halt with the caravan wheels against the ramp and ease it over. Particularly with those black and yellow plastic ones, which
seem much more abrupt. Some seem to launch the caravan and you can hear things crashing and banging as it lands.Steve, you may be on to something here....when a caravanner flies over one of these, they are insulated from the racket inside their caravan...so may not realise the damage being caused.
those in a MH are 'right there' with the effects of going too fast over these things, so may approach with a little more reticence..
Good point BB, I wonder if the folk with LV's that have 'issues' are the ones that speed. No offence intended, just a theory. What with all the jerking around damaging seals(not the mammal)
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I don't see this army of homicidal speeders either. If someone was out of order enough to offend site safety I would simply speak to them.
However in 4 decades of camping I am yet to be sufficiently incensed to do this.
Perhaps I should order some clipboards from Amazon then I can join certain other posters in their favourite pastime (observing others)
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Just not seen it personally Steve but I suppose I don't use club sites very often these days preferring the alternatives.
Take your word for it though but if you tell these people its not acceptable, do you think they would be contrite or aggressive back at you?
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