Speed on sites AGAIN

Hoskins123
Hoskins123 Forum Participant Posts: 8
edited October 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I think its about time the club made a stand and addressed this issue, walking pace, your having a laughSadSadSad

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2016 #2

    So contact them and make a clear case, Hoskins. Quote times, dates and places as I'm afraid a rather vague statement isn't going to achieve anything. Quote the wardens you have spoken to as well.

    As you know, it's been discussed many many times on CT and the last thread on the subject is barely cold. There's little point in going over the same ground yet again in my opinion. CC is the place to raise it now.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #3

    Hoskins,where are you talking about, and what did the site staff have to say when you mentioned it? and as Tinwheeler says contact EGH and make a strong representation

  • artyboo
    artyboo Forum Participant Posts: 457
    edited October 2016 #4

    Tut tut,

    Dont people realise this is a controlled class A drug and is illegal?

    Sorry, being sensible, how fast? Where? Did YOU do anything? Should it not be a collective approach To anti- social behaviour? 

  • harryb
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    edited October 2016 #5

    I'm an organiser of our local community road safety team and as such in my possession I have a speed gun that we use. If the club so wishes I would be willing to monitor sites near me to try and prove a point. It won't work lower than 10mph so would be ok
    for club sites. It's an offer I don't expect will be taken up but it might just give them a useful idea to get to grips with the problem.

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  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #7

    Unfortunately common sense is in fairly short supply during the Friday rush to get the best pitch, for that ideal weekend break. I don't think they get that the other side of the channel.

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  • Kennine
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    edited October 2016 #9

    Nothing is going to improve until the warden staff, who we keep being told on here know everything which is happening on their site, ejects from the site those who are driving in a way to endanger others. 

    Its their job to ensure the health and safety of their customers.

    K

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #10

    The w/e is just as important to people over here and the competition for the best pitches is just as intense but  ....  

    But without the 12 oclock deadline Wink

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #11

    The w/e is just as important to people over here and the competition for the best pitches is just as intense but it does not leave accidents, injuries, and deaths in its wake any more than it does in the UK. 
    Perhaps somebody would care to say just how many such accidents, injuries and deaths happen each w/e on CC Ltd sites.  

    Perhaps a more important statistic, that is unlikely to be available, is how many near miss incidents there are. It is an unfortunate fact that loss of life is normally required before anything is done.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #12

    I don't see the extent of speeding on site as a safety problem necessarily. I do see speeding as anti-social

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #13

    I am afraid it is a health and safety issue as the faster you go the more likely an accident might happen and the worse the result.

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  • volvoman9
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    edited October 2016 #15

    For me its walking pace and no faster everytime and NO exceptions. Lets all be safe all of the time
    Happy

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #16

    As I said previously I don't think that on many sites a higher speed is
    always
     dangerous, depends where and when. I drive around at 4 mph as I think speeding is plain antisocial.  

  • papgeno
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    edited October 2016 #17

    From my observations (not with a clipboard) I got to wondering if speed bumps were counterproductive. We were pitched near one recently and drivers slowed as they approached and then accelerated away once they'd got over it. One or two even changed up into
    a higher gear as they passed our van. It might be an idea if you wanted to protect a length of road, by the play area for instance, to put the bump after the area instead of before. Just a thought.

  • volvoman9
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    edited October 2016 #18

    By their very design caravans are not made to go over speed bumps.A caravan body flexes far more than is visible by the naked eye when going over an uneven surface.This has to lead to some of the many ingress problems.You only have to watch how the van rocks
    from side to side as the contents of the cupboards can be heard rattleing about.But they are a fact of life these days as are the many potholes on our roads.In all honesty we should not need them on our sites should we.

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  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #19

    By their very design caravans are not made to go over speed bumps.A caravan body flexes far more than is visible by the naked eye when going over an uneven surface.This has to lead to some of the many ingress problems.You only have to watch
    how the van rocks from side to side as the contents of the cupboards can be heard rattleing about.But they are a fact of life these days as are the many potholes on our roads.In all honesty we should not need them on our sites should we.

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    I would agree with this assumption. However, some folk don't help matters by the way they go over them. I more or less come to a halt with the caravan wheels against the ramp and ease it over. Particularly with those black and yellow plastic ones, which
    seem much more abrupt. Some seem to launch the caravan and you can hear things crashing and banging as it lands.

  • Canenriot
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    edited October 2016 #20

    Last week on Rowntree Park I did notice the warden go straight out to someone who was speeding on site , very impressed.

  • jeffcc
    jeffcc Forum Participant Posts: 430
    edited October 2016 #21

    Speed humps are a waste of time as any idiot can drive over them at speedSurprised. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    Now if chicanes as we see on a lot of streets  were to be installed then perhaps people may slow down rather than risk damaging their vanWink. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

     

  • Fysherman
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    edited October 2016 #22

    Not if they want customers they won't.

  • compass362
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    edited October 2016 #23

    I am afraid it is a health and safety issue as the faster you go the more likely an accident might happen and the worse the result.

    Write your comments here...I was watching Interceptors last night on C5 , these stingers stop sticks would be just the job ...... If they won't slow down scare um to death ..... it'll only take one..........

  • jeffcc
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    edited October 2016 #24

    Not if they want customers they won't.

    Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your  statement?

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #25

    Not if they want customers they won't.

    Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your  statement?

    Because there would need to be physical barriers to weave through. Easy with a panel motorhome perhaps but not so easy with one of the larger pickups with an 8m shipping length 'van on the back. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited October 2016 #26

    Speed humps are a waste of time as any idiot can drive over them at speed

     

    Not just idiots - the faster the vehicle the less the effect of the speed bump.  There is a lovely video going round showing tanks at different speeds crossing obstacles.

  • Fysherman
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    edited October 2016 #27

    Not if they want customers they won't.

    Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your  statement?

    Because people would not put up with it and go elsewhere.

    No sane person would want to risk damaging their outfit.

     

  • jeffcc
    jeffcc Forum Participant Posts: 430
    edited October 2016 #28

    Not if they want customers they won't.

    Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your  statement?

    Because there would need to be physical barriers to weave through. Easy with a panel motorhome perhaps but not so easy with one of the larger pickups with an 8m shipping length 'van on the back. 

    I actually have a large 4x4 and a large caravan and dont see the problem as i regularily have to overcome said obstacles where i live and there is no speeding through there. the whole idea of chicanes is that they are a physical ostacle which makes people
    more wary of their speed is that not the intention of any speed reduction measure? otherwise its pointless. just as speed humps are.

  • jeffcc
    jeffcc Forum Participant Posts: 430
    edited October 2016 #29

    Not if they want customers they won't.

    Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your  statement?

    Because people would not put up with it and go elsewhere.

    No sane person would want to risk damaging their outfit.

     

    Your calling me insane not very polite!!Wink. Use left and right arrows to navigate. However if you cant drive your unit through a chicane without damaging it then you should not be driving it. Or are you happy with people ignoring the speed limits and putting people at risk?

  • volvoman9
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    edited October 2016 #30

    By their very design caravans are not made to go over speed bumps.A caravan body flexes far more than is visible by the naked eye when going over an uneven surface.This has to lead to some of the many ingress problems.You only have to watch
    how the van rocks from side to side as the contents of the cupboards can be heard rattleing about.But they are a fact of life these days as are the many potholes on our roads.In all honesty we should not need them on our sites should we.

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    I would agree with this assumption. However, some folk don't help matters by the way they go over them. I more or less come to a halt with the caravan wheels against the ramp and ease it over. Particularly with those black and yellow plastic ones, which
    seem much more abrupt. Some seem to launch the caravan and you can hear things crashing and banging as it lands.

    I quite agree Steve like yourself i go over them very slowly to get a feel of the van going over the hump.The worst i have seen were at Blackshaw Moor which were staggered humps which caused the van to rock from side to side as one wheel came down and the
    other went up.I was at B/M last weekend and the said humps have been slightly modified but still remain in a diagonal shape.

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  • volvoman9
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    edited October 2016 #31

    Not if they want customers they won't.

    Sorry dont understand how a speed reducing chicane would stop people who can drive sensibly from coming to the site? perhaps you would care to expand on your  statement?

    Because people would not put up with it and go elsewhere.

    No sane person would want to risk damaging their outfit.

     

    I dont think something like this would put me off in fact i would prefer chicanes too speed humps any day.

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