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  • Valencia65
    Valencia65 Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited November 2016 #122

    I agree with Bikers. When I was staying on a serviced pitch I was rushed to hospital for emergency surgery. This meant extending the holiday as we were miles away from home. The wardens said our serviced pitch was books by another person so my partner (
    with the help of wardens) moved our van whilst I was in hospital. The new occupants were asked by the wardens upon arriving if they definately needed the serviced pitch and they said yes, despite wardens telling them what had happened to me. Imagine the frustration
    when they never once used the serviced facilities on the pitch? The wardens said it needs to be specific for those who need and want to connect to the water, otherwise select a normal pitch!!! In this instance my partner had to move pitches whilst I was in
    hospital when they really was no need.

  • Mr OrangeTree
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    edited November 2016 #123

    I have done this.  The reason was that I wanted a particular location on the site, and that part of the site only had serviced pitches.  So I paid the extra. 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #124

    The wardens said it needs to be specific for those who need and want to connect to the water, otherwise select a normal pitch!!! In this instance my partner had to move pitches whilst I was in hospital when they really was no need.

    Well I totally disagree with the warden. He has no idea why somebody requires a serviced pitch. I would not normally book a service pitch. I did last year during a 2 week stay over the Christmas period. And I was glad that I did. You would not think that
    I have physical difficulties to see me moving around. However I have arthritis in my spine and shoulder ad at that time significant sciatic problems. Walking the 200 yards to the wardens office I had to rest at least twice. If you had seen me hanging the Christmas
    lights from the awning rails you would also have thought I was fine. I did not hitch up the water. Why? because to carry a small amount of water a distance of 6m was no problem neither was emptying the waste every couple of days before it became heavy.

    Does your partner have physical disabilities? If so, and even though I would have struggled at that time I would have released the service pitch when asked if I felt somebody's need was greater. If not then I wouldn't. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #125

    The wardens said it needs to be specific for those who need and want to connect to the water, otherwise select a normal pitch!!! In this instance my partner had to move pitches whilst I was in hospital when they really was no need.

    Well I totally disagree with the warden. He has no idea why somebody requires a serviced pitch. I would not normally book a service pitch. I did last year during a 2 week stay over the Christmas period. And I was glad that I did. You would not think that
    I have physical difficulties to see me moving around. However I have arthritis in my spine and shoulder ad at that time significant sciatic problems. Walking the 200 yards to the wardens office I had to rest at least twice. If you had seen me hanging the Christmas
    lights from the awning rails you would also have thought I was fine. I did not hitch up the water. Why? because to carry a small amount of water a distance of 6m was no problem neither was emptying the waste every couple of days before it became heavy.

    Does your partner have physical disabilities? If so, and even though I would have struggled at that time I would have released the service pitch when asked if I felt somebody's need was greater. If not then I wouldn't. 

    Yes fully agree with you.

     

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  • Kennine
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    edited November 2016 #127

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" "service pitches" close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #128

    Quite possible BB although once all the hardstandings were known to be booked it could then mean Serviced pitches were the next option as members would know that it was there only option for HS. 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #129

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit
    like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

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  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #131

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit
    like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    You are right, of course, ET, disabilities come in many forms, not all physical and not all obvious to others. It's a bit like those who complain about apparently able folk using blue badge parking bays without knowing the full story. Anyway I don't think
    the majority of serviced pitches are necessarily near facilities blocks are they? (But stand to be corrected on that).

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #132

    Not so sure BB. If I was going to a site say in June and outside school hoidays where there were 100 piches and 70 hard then under the present system I am pretty certain to get HS. No need to consider a serviced pitch. If there were only 50 HS I might well
    be tempted to book a serviced pitch or not use that site. On the site with 70 hardstandings IF it was fully booked for hardstandings (which is possible) then a service pitche would be my choice.

  • Kennine
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    edited November 2016 #133

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    Write your comments here. No problems -- Like I said  before " Blue Badge "..-  Blue badge holders are deserving of consideration when making pitches fully serviced IMO.   Blue badge holders would book blue badge pitches. 

    Cheers .....K Smile

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #134

    I am not sure why V 65 thought someone should give up the service pitch they had booked. The warden did help her OH move. The same thing happened to us at Brecon a couple of years ago, when my OH ended up in Abergavenny General. The service pitches were fully booked so I could  not extend. To be honest it did not cross my mind to expect someone to give up their booking. As I was moving the van anyway, I actually booked another site. However, if my service pitch had been available I would have stayed put. V65 does not mention any disability,  so I am not sure why moving pitch should be a problem. How the new occupants used it, is really nobody else's business.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #135

     

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    Write your comments here. No problems -- Like I said  before " Blue Badge "..-  Blue badge holders are deserving of consideration when making pitches fully serviced IMO.   Blue badge holders would book blue badge pitches. 

    Cheers .....K Smile

    Blue badge owners may well be worthy of consideration but there are others as well. I can usually cope OK (unless I do something daft like carrying a full toilet cassette instead of rolling it oor fetching a new 3.9kg propane from a reception 100 yards away
    instead of using the car Happy an d yes I do stupid things sometimes and wonder why I am suffering). If my arthritis flares up then OH fetches
    the water. Thankfully my sciatica has cleared up an so probably good for 3 or 4 miles. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited November 2016 #136

    We do not normally go for the serviced pitches but have on one site where we liked the location and it was the only way to get a hard standing.

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #137

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit
    like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    Write your comments here. No problems -- Like I said  before " Blue Badge "..-  Blue badge holders are deserving of consideration when making pitches fully serviced IMO.   Blue badge holders would book blue badge pitches. 

    Cheers .....K Smile

    What about those whose disability does not affect their mobility so do not qualify for  blue badge?

    OH needs my help with showering so has a Radar key and can  use the disabled facilities.  To look at her you would not think she has any problems.  Mainly she prefers to use our excellent shower in the van, so a serviced pitch is of great assistance to us,
    especially as I had a triple heart bypass 15 months back.

    Nothing wrong with my legs either, I can walk for miles, but I do find that I no longer have the strength I used to have in my arms, so appreciate not having to move heavy things.

    Do not make assumptions about people you know nothing about.

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #138

    BTW, there are generally no such things as "Blue Badge Pitches" on the majority of CC sites.

    If you need a pitch close to the facilities you need to ring every site you are visiting just before you go and request a "disabled" pitch.  The warden will then, on the day you are arriving, find the vacant pitch nearest the facilities and reserve it for you.

    There is no guarantee that it will actually be really near the facilities.  If you do not like the reserved pitch,or if  it is unsuitable for your size of outfit (not unknown), you are free to choose any vacant pitch of the type you have booked,we have done so once recently with no problem, just let the warden know and return the cone/disabled sign.

  • KeefySher
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    edited November 2016 #139

    To assume, is to make an ass of you and me.

    I'm registerded disabled due to being deaf. People think I'm ignorant because I can't hear them. I think they are intellectually  challenged as they can't reason as to why I don't respond. Takes all kinds.  Tongue Out

  • Kennine
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    edited November 2016 #140

    I see nothing wrong with the CC providing bookable serviced pitches for those who are recipients of a blue badge..  We have to remember that blue badges are issued to assist those with many illnesses and disabilities sometimes not apparent to the casual
    onlooker.

    Being a serviced pitch it will greatly help, as would the position of the pitches in relation to the toilet block.  Caravanning is a great hobby, why should people not be helped to enjoy this hobby. If pitches are unsuitable for their particular state of
    health surely the CC could adapt some pitches to help, they might be called Blue Badge pitches.

    Its called being considerate to others.

    Cheers .....K

     

     

     

     

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #141

    Being considerate to others is realising that all who are not able to handle weights are disabled in the semse of having a blue badgw

  • ValDa
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    edited November 2016 #142

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit
    like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    Write your comments here. No problems -- Like I said  before " Blue Badge "..-  Blue badge holders are deserving of consideration when making pitches fully serviced IMO.   Blue badge holders would book blue badge pitches. 

    Cheers .....K Smile

    What about those whose disability does not affect their mobility so do not qualify for  blue badge?

    OH needs my help with showering so has a Radar key and can  use the disabled facilities.  To look at her you would not think she has any problems.  Mainly she prefers to use our excellent shower in the van, so a serviced pitch is of great assistance to us,
    especially as I had a triple heart bypass 15 months back.

    Nothing wrong with my legs either, I can walk for miles, but I do find that I no longer have the strength I used to have in my arms, so appreciate not having to move heavy things.

    Do not make assumptions about people you know nothing about.

    A friend of mine, much younger than me, has a stoma for both bowel and bladder, and needs to use the disabled loo because there is always a washbasin within the cubicle. However, she has, on more than one occasion, been reprimanded and asked to show her
    'Blue Badge' but she doesn't have one.  She is fully mobile, and fully fit but still requires the disabled loo and has a Radar key.  Please don't make judgements about others.  There may be people who don't respect disabled bays, or Blue Badge pitches, or
    toilets, but there are others who may need to use them, but their reason for so-doing may not be obvious to others.

  • Kennine
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    edited November 2016 #143

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    Write your comments here. No problems -- Like I said  before " Blue Badge "..-  Blue badge holders are deserving of consideration when making pitches fully serviced IMO.   Blue badge holders would book blue badge pitches. 

    Cheers .....K Smile

    What about those whose disability does not affect their mobility so do not qualify for  blue badge?

    OH needs my help with showering so has a Radar key and can  use the disabled facilities.  To look at her you would not think she has any problems.  Mainly she prefers to use our excellent shower in the van, so a serviced pitch is of great assistance to us, especially as I had a triple heart bypass 15 months back.

    Nothing wrong with my legs either, I can walk for miles, but I do find that I no longer have the strength I used to have in my arms, so appreciate not having to move heavy things.

    Do not make assumptions about people you know nothing about.

    A friend of mine, much younger than me, has a stoma for both bowel and bladder, and needs to use the disabled loo because there is always a washbasin within the cubicle. However, she has, on more than one occasion, been reprimanded and asked to show her 'Blue Badge' but she doesn't have one.  She is fully mobile, and fully fit but still requires the disabled loo and has a Radar key.  Please don't make judgements about others.  There may be people who don't respect disabled bays, or Blue Badge pitches, or toilets, but there are others who may need to use them, but their reason for so-doing may not be obvious to others.

    Write your comments here...good post Valda. As I said earlier peoples health challenges are not always visible to the casual onlooker. 

    K

     

  • brue
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    edited November 2016 #144

    The "blue badge" is a permit, used for parking, the permit is displayed in the front of the car. You won't be asked for a parking permit when entering a toilet.Wink

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #145

    The site I'm on at the moment has 4 pitches, 2 either side of the toilet block, which has a disabled sign on them. In the 3 days we have been here only 1 was occupied for 2 days. We were not asked to avoid them so I guess they dont have someone coming in
    who needs them. I see no reason to have to be a 'Blue Badge' holder to use these pitches, as far as I know if you require to be close and have mobility issues you can request a pitch near the block. There are many reasons that someone may have temporarily
    mobility issues, they wouldn't be a badge holder but that shouldn't exvlude them.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2016 #146

     

    A friend of mine, much younger than me, has a stoma for both bowel and bladder, and needs to use the disabled loo because there is always a washbasin within the cubicle. However, she has, on more than one occasion, been reprimanded and asked to show her
    'Blue Badge' but she doesn't have one.   ...

    On the last few CC I've been on, there were signs on some shower & toilet cubciles saying 'these general use cubilces have been modified to assist the disabled' ie they had extra grab handles & the shower head was on a flexible hose rather than fixed.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #147

    They're on every full facility CC site I've ever stayed on, MM, but don't compare with the wet room type of disabled facilities with all the essentials in one room.

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #148

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    Write your comments here. No problems -- Like I said  before " Blue Badge "..-  Blue badge holders are deserving of consideration when making pitches fully serviced IMO.   Blue badge holders would book blue badge pitches. 

    Cheers .....K Smile

    What about those whose disability does not affect their mobility so do not qualify for  blue badge?

    OH needs my help with showering so has a Radar key and can  use the disabled facilities.  To look at her you would not think she has any problems.  Mainly she prefers to use our excellent shower in the van, so a serviced pitch is of great assistance to us, especially as I had a triple heart bypass 15 months back.

    Nothing wrong with my legs either, I can walk for miles, but I do find that I no longer have the strength I used to have in my arms, so appreciate not having to move heavy things.

    Do not make assumptions about people you know nothing about.

    A friend of mine, much younger than me, has a stoma for both bowel and bladder, and needs to use the disabled loo because there is always a washbasin within the cubicle. However, she has, on more than one occasion, been reprimanded and asked to show her 'Blue Badge' but she doesn't have one.  She is fully mobile, and fully fit but still requires the disabled loo and has a Radar key.  Please don't make judgements about others.  There may be people who don't respect disabled bays, or Blue Badge pitches, or toilets, but there are others who may need to use them, but their reason for so-doing may not be obvious to others.

    Write your comments here...good post Valda. As I said earlier peoples health challenges are not always visible to the casual onlooker. 

    K

     

    Write your comments here...

    Since the subject of those who have a physical disability has been raised,  surely the CC could reserve a number of "Disabled" service pitches close to the facilities block. Those could be bookable and would save disappointment on arrival at site.  A bit like " Blue Badge" pitches

    The fit and active customers IMO dont really need a service pitch so might like to reserve a h/standing pitch instead.  

    There's always a way round any challenge. 

    Cheers .....K

    And how does one tell who is 'fit and active'? How can we tell who has a need? 

    Write your comments here. No problems -- Like I said  before " Blue Badge "..-  Blue badge holders are deserving of consideration when making pitches fully serviced IMO.   Blue badge holders would book blue badge pitches. 

    Cheers .....K Smile

    What about those whose disability does not affect their mobility so do not qualify for  blue badge?

    OH needs my help with showering so has a Radar key and can  use the disabled facilities.  To look at her you would not think she has any problems.  Mainly she prefers to use our excellent shower in the van, so a serviced pitch is of great assistance to us, especially as I had a triple heart bypass 15 months back.

    Nothing wrong with my legs either, I can walk for miles, but I do find that I no longer have the strength I used to have in my arms, so appreciate not having to move heavy things.

    Do not make assumptions about people you know nothing about.

    A friend of mine, much younger than me, has a stoma for both bowel and bladder, and needs to use the disabled loo because there is always a washbasin within the cubicle. However, she has, on more than one occasion, been reprimanded and asked to show her 'Blue Badge' but she doesn't have one.  She is fully mobile, and fully fit but still requires the disabled loo and has a Radar key.  Please don't make judgements about others.  There may be people who don't respect disabled bays, or Blue Badge pitches, or toilets, but there are others who may need to use them, but their reason for so-doing may not be obvious to others.

    Write your comments here...good post Valda. As I said earlier peoples health challenges are not always visible to the casual onlooker

     

     

    So why suggest "blue badge  pitches"?

     

    Sorry for all the quotes, it posted while I was trying to delete them!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2016 #149

    They're on every full facility CC site I've ever stayed on, MM, but don't compare with the wet room type of disabled facilities with all the essentials in one room.

    I realise that ... just pointing out that there aren't any specific 'disabled only' use showers or toilets

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #150

    They're on every full facility CC site I've ever stayed on, MM, but don't compare with the wet room type of disabled facilities with all the essentials in one room.

    I realise that ... just pointing out that there aren't any specific 'disabled only' use showers or toilets

    .....other than the disabled room/s

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #151

    All CC sites have a dedicated disabled room with toilet, WHB and shower.  These are kept locked.