Closed loos and showers

scousetraveller
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edited August 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Is it really acceptable for wardens to close/lock toilets and showers at high levels of occupancy when they are perfectly serviceable just to save themselves work in cleaning? I have found this happens too regularly.

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  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #2

    I have come across this at very quiet times, but never in high season. Might have been a genuine reason, can't think why they'd be closed otherwise. Which site was this on?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #3

    They're easy to unlockSurprised

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2016 #4

     

    I have come across this at very quiet times, but never in high season. Might have been a genuine reason, can't think why they'd be closed otherwise. Which site was this on?

    +1 M, I've never seen it happen in high season.

    How do you know they were closed for the reason you gave Scousetraveller? Did the wardens tell you this? If so this practice (closing them) is clearly wrong

  • Wildwood
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    edited August 2016 #5

    I have seen one block closed when the site is quiet which saves the cost of operation and is sensible. I have not seen this on a busy site but if it happened then I would assume it is because of problems.

  • DEBSC
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    edited August 2016 #6

    We were at Moreton in Marsh at the beginning of June and two showers and two loos were locked, nothing wrong with them as after a couple of days these were opened and different ones were locked. The site wasn't full.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited August 2016 #7

    scousetraveller, did you ask the wardens why there were some facilities closed? Surely that should have been your first course of action, before posting on here. If you did what was the reply?

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #8

    I have seen this when the site is quiet,  but never when the site is busy. I have seen them closed due to problems, such as blockages or faulty shower valves. I would ask the warden, there may well be a reasonable explanation.

  • rayjsj
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    edited August 2016 #9

    They're easy to unlockSurprised

    Write your comments here...I can understand off of peak season, when there is less pressure on the facilities. Also a reason for closure should be posted on the locked door.Otherwise if all others are in use, i would do the above, and open the cubicle myself,
    as said, they are easy to open. Why should paying customers have to wait ? Because the cleaner wants an easy time ? 

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #10

    I have certainly been on CC sites where I have assumed that toilets or showers are closed off to make cleaning easier. Might have been a wrong assumption but as I am usually in toilet facilities by 6.30 it has not bothered me greatly. There was a site that
    I eas on this year where I had been in before 6.30, walked into shower area or privacy cubicle and they were in darkness. Come 6.30am lights came on. Certainly made shaving easier Happy

  • dunelm
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    edited August 2016 #11

    scousetraveller, did you ask the wardens why there were some facilities closed? Surely that should have been your first course of action, before posting on here. If you did what was the reply?

    Write your comments here..

    It will be interesting to see if there is a response.....and if so what the response is.

  • Briang
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    edited August 2016 #12

    They're easy to unlockSurprised

    Carefull you might get charged for breaking & entering. WorriedDon't know the penalty for this crime.

  • huskydog
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    edited August 2016 #13

    The toilet blocks at Crossways have a key pad ...,,, but then on a plate next to it is the pass code , whats that all aboutUndecided

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #14

    The only time we have found restricted facilities is at low ocupancy times unless there is a fault,where we are now one shower is out of use but there is a note on the door explains why and what is beIng done to rectify it

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #15

    The toilet blocks at Crossways have a key pad ...,,, but then on a plate next to it is the pass code , whats that all aboutUndecided

    ...One site we have stayed on had the same ,but it was explained that they ,at times, had a problem with "visitors" ,which is why the keypad locks were fitted 

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited August 2016 #16

    Personally I dont think wardens should close off either toilets or showers to reduce their work load.  They should only be shut if broken. We have seen lots of times doors shut and locked - usually toilets but sometimes showers.  Maybe they were broken but
    it does seem common. Likewise I dont think whole blocks should be closed. Just my opinion though.

  • DEBSC
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    edited August 2016 #17

    I don't think it is right either but I suppose that it comes down to planning. They must have a set ratio of toilets and showers to paying customers, if the wardens know they have fewer people on site then maybe they can argue that they are still within
    the ratio.

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2016 #18

    Likewise I dont think whole blocks should be closed. Just my opinion though.

    Some sites often with a significant number of grass pitches, only open a restricted number of pitches in the winter months and go down to one set of wardens. It would not make economic, or practical sense, to keep two toilet blocks open in these circumstances.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #19

    Likewise I dont think whole blocks should be closed. Just my opinion though.

    Some sites often with a significant number of grass pitches, only open a restricted number of pitches in the winter months and go down to one set of wardens. It would not make economic, or practical sense, to keep two toilet blocks open in these circumstances.

    Write your comments here...+1

  • Wildwood
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    edited August 2016 #20

    Personally I dont think wardens should close off either toilets or showers to reduce their work load.  They should only be shut if broken. We have seen lots of times doors shut and locked - usually toilets but sometimes showers.  Maybe they were broken but
    it does seem common. Likewise I dont think whole blocks should be closed. Just my opinion though.

    We keep the caravan at Strathclyde Park which has two toilet blocks. In winter there may be as few as 12 caravans on site and this does not warrant opening both. The larger central one stays open and quite sensibly the other is closed.

  • KjellNN
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    edited August 2016 #21

    Personally I dont think wardens should close off either toilets or showers to reduce their work load.  They should only be shut if broken. We have seen lots of times doors shut and locked - usually toilets but sometimes showers.  Maybe they were broken but
    it does seem common. Likewise I dont think whole blocks should be closed. Just my opinion though.

    When sites are open all year, the occupancy is often very much less in low season than in summer.  Blocks need heated in winter, it does not make sense to keep more than one block open if site occupancy is low.

    Heating 2 blocks when only one is needed would only put up site fees for everyone.

  • rayjsj
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    edited August 2016 #22

    No one is arguing against closing facilities, when occupancy is low. But i think the OP said that several toilets/showers were closed when the site was busy,  that is a far differant situation. And  notes on the closed facilities explaining why, might stop
    breaking and entering for the nefarious purpose of having a shower.

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #23

    I too have seen cubicles locked. The amount of time saved by this during cleaning must be miniscule

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #24

    I too have seen cubicles locked. The amount of time saved by this during cleaning must be miniscule

    Yes, but the OP was suggesting this was happening in peak season. I don't suppose you (or I) have seen that, surely?

  • Wildwood
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    edited August 2016 #25

    I too have seen cubicles locked. The amount of time saved by this during cleaning must be miniscule

    Yes, but the OP was suggesting this was happening in peak season. I don't suppose you (or I) have seen that, surely?

    I have never seen toilet blocks closed in peak season.

  • DEBSC
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    edited August 2016 #26

    I too have seen cubicles locked. The amount of time saved by this during cleaning must be miniscule

    Yes, but the OP was suggesting this was happening in peak season. I don't suppose you (or I) have seen that, surely?

    I have never seen toilet blocks closed in peak season.

    As I said before some toilet and shower cubicles were locked at Moreton in June just after the bank holiday. Charged high season rates, does this make it high season?

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #27

    I'd say so....