Weekender warriors are back in force
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We tend to go away for 10 to 20 days at a time and tend to book 2 or 3 sites for each trip. These will always include some weekend days on club or CL sites. We tend to book up to six months ahead so that we can be sure of these 2 or 3 sites per trip being reserved in advance. We welcome that we are able to do that, to us it is sensible forward planning and avoids last minute disapointments. We never go away just for a weekend as you don't have to when retired, but like most retired folk, can still remember the world of work, and in due course most others will also get their turn at the retirement game..
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A number of commercial sites will not permit just a Friday/Saturday night booking in peak times I read. Not sure how true how widespread that is generally but I have read such when I have looked at one or another site's web page. I am glad that the CC does
not have that restriction.I am unsure what booking restriction C&CC have on some sites.
The C&CC do have mimimum booking periods. See link - http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/minimumbookingperiods/
Wonder if a moderator could make this a live link please.
Thanks Mod, whichever one it was.
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I presumed that it was an attempt to maximise income in the same way as other commercial sites sometimes do so that they have more room in their booking tables to try and ensure that pitches are not full at weekend but the same pitches remain empty at week
days.Personally I don't see it as friendly. Just business. Maybe the CC will follow suit - I personally hope not.
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I suppose it is all a question of degree. A business model that has to turn away 7 night stayers in favour of 2 night w/e users can only survive for so long. Any missing or lost revenue will end up with increasing fees for everyone anyway.
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The C&CC do have mimimum booking periods. See link - http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/minimumbookingperiods/
Most of them are only 2 nights though so weekenders can still weekend. Even the ones that are 3 the logical thing for a long weekend is to book Friday-Saturday- Sunday nights then leave on Sunday evening rather than having to leave at lunch time.
Interesting to see serviced pitches have different minimums - maybe this is what the CC will do, make one type of pitch have restrictions and normal pitches stay the same so there should be opportunities for everyone to book what they need?
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I suppose it is all a question of degree. A business model that has to turn away 7 night stayers in favour of 2 night w/e users can only survive for so long. Any missing or lost revenue will end up with increasing fees for everyone anyway.
I agree but I already pay more to cover that loss ...... all site usrs do
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I suppose it is all a question of degree. A business model that has to turn away 7 night stayers in favour of 2 night w/e users can only survive for so long. Any missing or lost revenue will end up with increasing fees for everyone anyway.
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An interesting opinion on CC's business management strategy - but they were founded in 1907 and they are still the biggest in the UK. When do you expect your prophesy to come true?
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I suppose it is all a question of degree. A business model that has to turn away 7 night stayers in favour of 2 night w/e users can only survive for so long. Any missing or lost revenue will end up with increasing fees for everyone anyway.
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An interesting opinion on CC's business management strategy - but they were founded in 1907 and they are still the biggest in the UK. When do you expect your prophesy to come true?
My prophesy ? A bit grand Jenny
But then there are those who say they can't get on ( some ) sites for a week due to weekends
being full.. There are some sites ( not CC ) that require minimum 3 night stays in peak periods.. If these things are indeed happening, then its really just another situation where there are too many users for too few places in peak times.. It just seems a
shame income wise if any site is losing a 7 night booking because weekends on that site are full.. Those who want to stay longer really do need to book earlier, but such is life.
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20 years ago I had my last holiday with my late wife. We were away just over 7 weeks in main school holiday time moving every 2,3 or 4 days as we wished. Even then there must have been occasional 'full at weekend' concerns as I booked each saturday of the
trip in advance.One of the factors effecting CC site costs is doubtless the fact that often sites are full over weekend and less so in the week, Site usage is however still high from what I observe. If I were running a site in a popular area I might well make the decision
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I suppose it is all a question of degree. A business model that has to turn away 7 night stayers in favour of 2 night w/e users can only survive for so long. Any missing or lost revenue will end up with increasing fees for everyone anyway.
Apart from a few of the honey pot sites, where is the evidence this is happening. A simple check of availability shows it is very easy to book a full week at a site for all but a week including the comming weekend. For instance, Cirencester any week rest of August and September. Malvern, any weekend rest of August and September.
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it's the saturday night bookers that get my goat, loads of sites available for Friday and Sunday of the upcoming BH weekend, just Saturday is full nearly everywhere, therefore staying somewhere for a weekend is nigh impossible, whereas mr "when I've decided
what the weather is like" who booked only saturday can decide to amend his booking and add the extra nights ...Maybe next year I need to join this selfish group and book all the Saturdays and then just cancel or amend closer to the booking time, just to make sure I can have a weekend away
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it's the saturday night bookers that get my goat, loads of sites available for Friday and Sunday of the upcoming BH weekend, just Saturday is full nearly everywhere, therefore
staying somewhere for a weekend is nigh impossible, whereas mr "when I've decided what the weather is like" who booked only saturday can decide to amend his booking and add the extra nights ...Maybe next year I need to join this selfish group and book all the Saturdays and then just cancel or amend closer to the booking time, just to make sure I can have a weekend away
or perhaps you are being selfish already by stopping someone who wants to book a full week including a weekend.
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it's the saturday night bookers that get my goat, loads of sites available for Friday and Sunday of the upcoming BH weekend, just Saturday is full nearly everywhere, therefore staying somewhere for a weekend is nigh impossible, whereas mr "when I've decided
what the weather is like" who booked only saturday can decide to amend his booking and add the extra nights ...Maybe next year I need to join this selfish group and book all the Saturdays and then just cancel or amend closer to the booking time, just to make sure I can have a weekend away
If you'd read some of the explanations on this thread about the myth that Saturdays are booked up by "selfish members" then you would understand that is not the case. There are various permutations of holiday periods, Saturday to Saturday, Friday to following
week Sunday, long weekends. Saying that Saturdays are booked by selfish people is one huge assumption, for which you have no evidence.0 -
it's the saturday night bookers that get my goat, loads of sites available for Friday and Sunday of the upcoming BH weekend, just Saturday is full nearly everywhere, therefore staying somewhere for a weekend is nigh impossible, whereas mr "when I've decided
what the weather is like" who booked only saturday can decide to amend his booking and add the extra nights ...Maybe next year I need to join this selfish group and book all the Saturdays and then just cancel or amend closer to the booking time, just to make sure I can have a weekend away
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Maybe you should consider the possibility that many people stay until Sunday, returning to work on Monday, while others start as early as possible before a week away. The Saturday night overlap being a consequence.
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it's the saturday night bookers that get my goat, loads of sites available for Friday and Sunday of the upcoming BH weekend, just Saturday is full nearly everywhere, therefore staying somewhere for a weekend is nigh impossible, whereas mr "when I've decided
what the weather is like" who booked only saturday can decide to amend his booking and add the extra nights ...Maybe next year I need to join this selfish group and book all the Saturdays and then just cancel or amend closer to the booking time, just to make sure I can have a weekend away
Are you seriously saying that you think the "Saturday problem" is down to folk just booking that one night - on a Bank Holiday weekend? I think that's a little far fetched, don't you, on reflection. Much more likely to be due to overlapping stays as has
already been suggested.I'm still a little puzzled though why folk who have left it until now to book are surprised that weekends in July/August should be busy!
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it's the saturday night bookers that get my goat, loads of sites available for Friday and Sunday of the upcoming BH weekend, just Saturday is full nearly everywhere, therefore staying somewhere for a weekend is nigh impossible, whereas
mr "when I've decided what the weather is like" who booked only saturday can decide to amend his booking and add the extra nights ...Maybe next year I need to join this selfish group and book all the Saturdays and then just cancel or amend closer to the booking time, just to make sure I can have a weekend away
Are you seriously saying that you think the "Saturday problem" is down to folk just booking that one night - on a Bank Holiday weekend? I think that's a little far fetched, don't you, on reflection. Much more likely to be due to overlapping stays as has
already been suggested.I'm still a little puzzled though why folk who have left it until now to book are surprised that weekends in July/August should be busy!
Hmmm, I guess it must just be me then, but going through over 20 CC sites for the BH weekend and ALL showed the same availability pattern of just Saturday being unavailable ... if it was for overlapping bookings I would be mightily surprised that it was
so coincidental over such a number and variety of sites ...I'm guessing that really to get the most out of the club I should give up working and use mid week options I suppose. One of the big things promoted on the club's own homepage is the late availability for August ... but from the replies on this thread it
would seem that isn't to enjoy a complete weekend on one site ... so I guess I'll not bother contributing to this thread as it already seems like folk don't like to accept there may be any other explanation other than "overlapping bookings" or "stopovers"
in the middle of a Bank Holiday weekend ... Ho Hum0 -
I'm guessing that really to get the most out of the club I should give up working and use mid week options I suppose. One of the big things promoted on the club's own homepage is the late availability for August ... but from the replies on this
thread it would seem that isn't to enjoy a complete weekend on one site ... so I guess I'll not bother contributing to this thread as it already seems like folk don't like to accept there may be any other explanation other than "overlapping bookings" or "stopovers"
in the middle of a Bank Holiday weekend ... Ho HumI presume the best 'evidence' that they are people booking just to 'hold' the site in case they want it would be to see how many pitches on that key Saturday night become free a few days before if its forecast to be bad weather.
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it's the saturday night bookers that get my goat, loads of sites available for Friday and Sunday of the upcoming BH weekend, just Saturday is full nearly everywhere, therefore staying somewhere for a weekend is nigh impossible, whereas mr "when I've decided what the weather is like" who booked only saturday can decide to amend his booking and add the extra nights ...
Maybe next year I need to join this selfish group and book all the Saturdays and then just cancel or amend closer to the booking time, just to make sure I can have a weekend away
Are you seriously saying that you think the "Saturday problem" is down to folk just booking that one night - on a Bank Holiday weekend? I think that's a little far fetched, don't you, on reflection. Much more likely to be due to overlapping stays as has already been suggested.
I'm still a little puzzled though why folk who have left it until now to book are surprised that weekends in July/August should be busy!
Hmmm, I guess it must just be me then, but going through over 20 CC sites for the BH weekend and ALL showed the same availability pattern of just Saturday being unavailable ... if it was for overlapping bookings I would be mightily surprised that it was so coincidental over such a number and variety of sites ...
I'm guessing that really to get the most out of the club I should give up working and use mid week options I suppose. One of the big things promoted on the club's own homepage is the late availability for August ... but from the replies on this thread it would seem that isn't to enjoy a complete weekend on one site ... so I guess I'll not bother contributing to this thread as it already seems like folk don't like to accept there may be any other explanation other than "overlapping bookings" or "stopovers" in the middle of a Bank Holiday weekend ... Ho Hum
Write your comments here...Sorrry for the long list but I extracted the site availablility from the CC website and filtered where Saturday <>0 and looks like around 90+ sites have pitches. I personally booked the Saturday night only at Black Horse Farm earlier this week as part of a tour of Kent over teh BH weekend as being in a MH we dont want to stay in one site for 3 days but want to tour around!!
Selfish mmmmmm
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Two facts, having checked late availability for the Bank Holiday weekend -
1) Virtually all the sites full on Saturday have very few spaces on the Friday/Sunday - this suggests surely very few "one nighters"?
2) Every region, except I believe East Midlands has at least one, and in some cases more, site with ample availability for that weekend. So unless you are determined on a particular site ( in which case surely it would have been sensible to book early) there
is plenty of opportunity to book a site.Having said that, I wouldn't go near any "main" site at August Bank Holiday!
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Site Fri 26 Sat 27 Sun 28 Cheltenham Racecourse 36 27 31 Cheltenham Racecourse 12 12 12 Henley Four Oaks 1 1 2 Malvern Hills 51 34 44 Moorhampton 21 20 22 Dockray Meadow 2 1 1 Dockray Meadow 19 19 21 Englethwaite Hall 9 8 15 Camelford 28 31 36 Exeter Racecourse 38 31 41 Exeter Racecourse 8 8 8 Hillhead 1 1 1 Ilfracombe 54 56 56 Looe 23 39 60 Marazion 24 23 25 Merrose Farm 80 83 97 Merrose Farm 4 4 4 Modbury 43 45 50 Plymouth Sound 30 27 34 Putts Corner 15 15 38 Ramslade 6 4 12 Ramslade 3 4 5 Ramslade 8 9 12 St Agnes Beacon 4 5 5 St Agnes Beacon 44 45 53 Steamer Quay 1 1 1 Steamer Quay 6 2 5 Stover 2 2 3 Stover 34 31 34 Trewethett Farm 2 8 19 Trewethett Farm 4 5 6 Willingcott 36 30 40 Incleboro Fields 1 1 14 Mildenhall 3 1 2 Thetford Forest 35 32 31 Nunnykirk 21 14 17 High Onn 15 17 17 High Onn 14 12 13 Uttoxeter Racecourse 22 19 22 Altnaharra 10 8 7 Altnaharra 8 8 8 Ayr Craigie Gardens 49 50 52 Balbirnie Park 6 7 9 Balbirnie Park 31 32 34 Brora 31 35 36 Brora 1 1 1 Bunree 3 1 3 Bunree 37 39 36 Clachan 10 10 9 Clachan 17 18 18 Culloden Moor 45 41 46 Dunnet Bay 37 37 42 Forfar Lochside 6 5 7 Forfar Lochside 23 21 32 Forfar Lochside 2 1 4 Garlieston 3 4 6 Garlieston 6 4 5 Kinlochewe 37 37 37 Maragowan 39 41 53 Morvich 2 1 1 Morvich 53 55 49 New England Bay 72 68 76 Silverbank 35 37 41 Stonehaven Queen Elizabeth Park 20 22 35 Strathclyde Country Park 44 35 58 Alderstead Heath 83 85 94 Alderstead Heath 4 4 4 Alderstead Heath 2 2 2 Alderstead Heath 6 5 5 Black Horse Farm 40 11 28 Broomfield Farm 4 4 4 Daleacres 1 1 2 Fairlight Wood 1 1 1 Gatwick 1 1 1 Northbrook Farm 12 8 7 Northbrook Farm 4 4 5 Slinfold 3 2 2 Exebridge Lakeside 36 34 40 Hurn Lane 32 9 29 Ilminster 7 7 6 Ilminster 34 35 34 Southland 7 7 6 Southland 83 82 87 Wincanton Racecourse 16 14 14 Wincanton Racecourse 21 22 22 Freshwater East 1 3 1 Gwern-Y-Bwlch 18 16 17 Shawsmead 1 3 5 Chapel Lane 5 3 7 Chapel Lane 35 30 38 Chapel Lane 9 7 9 Much Wenlock 3 3 4 Much Wenlock 15 15 15 Much Wenlock 2 2 2 North Yorkshire Moors 3 3 9 0 -
I'll not quote the whole post from MichaelT, but Much Wenlock had nothing last night just to pick an easily remembered one!
So folk are obviously cancelling bookings ...
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I'll not quote the whole post from MichaelT, but Much Wenlock had nothing last night just to pick an easily remembered one!
So folk are obviously cancelling bookings ...
Write your comments here...so 15 people have cancelled mmmmmmm are you sure you chose the BH wekend and not this weekend but even then there are available pithces.
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I suppose it is all a question of degree. A business model that has to turn away 7 night stayers in favour of 2 night w/e users can only survive for so long. Any missing or lost revenue will end up with increasing fees for everyone anyway.
Apart from a few of the honey pot sites, where is the evidence this is happening. A simple check of availability shows it is very easy to book a full week at a site for all but a week including the comming weekend. For instance, Cirencester any week rest of August and September. Malvern, any weekend rest of August and September.
Actually if I were weekending many sites are booked up for the coming Saturday within a reasonable striking distance
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I very much doubt that someone will book just the Saturday night unless it's for a stopover.
As has been said more times than I can remember Saturdays will be fully booked because of overlapping bookings
I used to book just Saturday nights to tour through School Summer Hols
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I'll not quote the whole post from MichaelT, but Much Wenlock had nothing last night just to pick an easily remembered one!
So folk are obviously cancelling bookings ...
Write your comments here...so 15 people have cancelled mmmmmmm are you sure you chose the BH wekend and not this weekend but even then there are available pithces.
I am indeed sure I checked the right weekend, is easier to do on the Sites App than the main website as it is actually clever enough to remember the dates selected!
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