Fire - the reality
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Not sure the cause of the fire matters, the fact it did not spread shows the spacing worked even if the fire still damaged those on adjacent pitches.
The number of fires on club sites is very low, probably well under ten per year. The causes would be a different subject but the first priority is to contain them.
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Now then children, remember the guide lines!!
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At Black Horse Farm last month, we came back from a day out to find a new arrival on the pitch next to us had parked with the near side of the van to the peg, not the offside as it should have been. It was so close to us they kept their blinds down as they
obviously didn't like us looking at them. We pointed it out to a passing warden, what did she do? Absolutely nothing! Next time it happens we'll be more persistent.0 -
At Black Horse Farm last month, we came back from a day out to find a new arrival on the pitch next to us had parked with the near side of the van to the peg, not the offside as it should have been. It was so close to us they kept their blinds down as they
obviously didn't like us looking at them. We pointed it out to a passing warden, what did she do? Absolutely nothing! Next time it happens we'll be more persistent.Black Horse Farm is THE site to go to to see how many different variations there are on incorrect pitching!
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Sorry to hear about your van Smivers. Are you able to say what the original cause is of the fire? My own view is that will have a bearing on any future review of policy (if needed) and there may be a valuable lesson to learn for members.
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Ianh I was there my caravan was one of the ones damaged and i am still waiting to be recovered so if you feel you are being lectured i could not care less
Smivers if that was the case then I'm sorry for your loss.
But I would like to know where on the site this happened and what caused the fire.
If you feel that I'm asking something totally unreasonable then I think it best that you just ignore my posts (rather than be rude) and leave them for someone else to answer.
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I agree that, in the fullness of time, lessons must be learnt from this shocking event. But I think it's understandable that Smivvers ( or anyone else for that matter) should be unwilling to speculate on the cause of the fire on a public forum such as this.
Hopefully an official statement from the club will be forthcoming, but again, it might not necessarily be on here ( at least not exclusively.)0 -
I agree that, in the fullness of time, lessons must be learnt from this shocking event. But I think it's understandable that Smivvers ( or anyone else for that matter) should be unwilling to speculate on the cause of the fire on a public forum such as this.
Hopefully an official statement from the club will be forthcoming, but again, it might not necessarily be on here ( at least not exclusively.)Write your comments here...Moulesy you are right, not even the warden on the site knew the reason and said to me they are waiting for the fire examiners report and he would not be drawn as to the reason , he did have a couple of ideas but was clear that
no comment could be made until the professional fire assessors have completed their work on the remains at the site. It was all too distressing to even think about and very scary experiencing the smells, the noises and the cries of FIRE, FIRE that night.
.That will haunt me for months especially as it was in the depths of darkness in the early hours of the morning.It was just behind us and the tension was palpable for all visitors on the site.Not something I want to experience again so to speculate the source
and the reason is totally unacceptable.....SG20 -
The cause of the fire is not going to help. What matters is that the club is prepared for them and the appropriate precautions are taken to reduce the effects and that when a fire occurs the right action is taken.
Accidents do happen though. Sometimes these things are down to bad luck although the modern way is to blame someone whatever the reality.
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The cause of the fire is not going to help. What matters is that the club is prepared for them and the appropriate precautions are taken to reduce the effects and that when a fire occurs the right action is taken.
Accidents do happen though. Sometimes these things are down to bad luck although the modern way is to blame someone whatever the reality.
Write your comments here...Ithink the Wardens words to me are the most important,quote, "We are not here to wonder why or how , we are here to protect and save lives." I believe that says it all, and they certainly helped enormously on Monday morning and
offered comfort to the poor unfortunate couple whose motorhome it was... SG2.......0 -
I spent a large part of my work life as an air accident investigator. I never came across an accident. Every incident had a human cause.
Depending upon when you retired DD we may have met.
I take it you worked for the AAIB? Off topic , sorry.
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I am seriously concerned about the reportedly slow and next to useless response to this emergency by the CC Insurance Co.
Like many others I suspect, I have gone on renewing my policy with them, happy in the belief that when an emergency occurred they would be on to it quicker than would other commercial companies. That seems not to be the case, so I will certainly be reviewing my policy when I next need to renew it.
All of my other Insurance Policies are with the NFU, - yes, I suspect that they are not the cheapest, but I am aware that when one of my neighbours had a bit of a domestic disaster they not only paid out quickly, but were on scene within a short time advising and assisting in cleaning up.
In the light of this it is quite possible that I will be changing next time, away from the CC caravan Ins Co. I learned sometime ago that the most important consideration in buying Insurance is not the cost of the Policy, - but the speed and ease in which claims are settled!
TF
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I am seriously concerned about the reportedly slow and next to useless response to this emergency by the CC Insurance Co.
Like many others I suspect, I have gone on renewing my policy with them, happy in the belief that when an emergency occurred they would be on to it quicker than would other commercial companies. That seems not to be the case, so I will certainly be reviewing
my policy when I next need to renew it.All of my other Insurance Policies are with the NFU, - yes, I suspect that they are not the cheapest, but I am aware that when one of my neighbours had a bit of a domestic disaster they not only paid out quickly, but were on scene within a short time advising
and assisting in cleaning up.In the light of this it is quite possible that I will be changing next time, away from the CC caravan Ins Co. I learned sometime ago that the most important consideration in buying Insurance is not the cost of the Policy, - but the speed and ease in which
claims are settled!TF
Write your comments here...Tigerfish, You must speak for yourself.but when I had my caravan stolen on August 12th a couple of years back, I had delivery of my new one by 1st week September ready for my holiday booked for the 10th Sept, all insured with
the Caravan Club, No com-plaints from me.Incidentally the NFU would not insure my Swift Conqueror as it was1inch too wide to be insured for use on the road ,find that an excuse as Combine Harvesters are wider than my van, They did add after I challenged them
that had I been an existing customer they would insure me, sounds spurious to me, what sort of outfit are they? CC are a little more expensive but they do settle claims very efficiently. SG20 -
Having re read my comments above, I would clarify that it remains too early at present to make a firm judgement in this case, but the reports in respect of lack of response are worrying, and I will certainly be watching events as they unfold.
As I said earlier the acid test of any Insurance must surely be not its cost (Although obviously a factor) but their willingness to pay out in the event of a claim, and the service provided to their policy holders.
TF
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Thanks Brue! - As I said, I agree its probably too early to make a firm judgement at this stage. But my comments re the acid test of ANY Insurance remains valid.
I have only just renewed my Policy, so have at least 11 months before I need take any action anyway.
TF
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I am very sorry for those who have lost in this incident. However I find it very strange that some people think the cause is irrelevant - surely if we know the cause we can avoid such an incident ourselves?
Last year in Bridlington my neighbours parked their car so close to mine that our doors would have touched when open - so I asked the wardens if I could park mine on the incorrect side which had plenty of room with large grass space next to the neighbours
- but I really wish wardens would enforce those rules - hopefully they may be more inclined now.0 -
All of my other Insurance Policies are with the NFU......
Never thought of the NFU for the caravan but will definitely ask them when ours comes up for renewal - we have claimed on our car and the horse insurance with the NFU, both times they dealt with it well. The only problem with the car claim was the
repairer they used - if ever any insurance company suggests your car should go to Advance Accident repair in Chesterfield turn them down if you want it back within a reasonable time.0 -
I have mentiones this before when people have complained about the pitching rules, but about 4 years ago on our first trip out in the van a caravan on the other side of the site went on fire at 3am. Luckily it was in October so the site wasn't full, and
the adjoining pitches was empty. The sight was frightening, the gas cylinder blew up, tyres busting, fuel in the car, black smoke billowing, even if you were far away for fire damage you still wondered what you were breathing in. Apparently they were woken
up by the smoke alarm and saw smoke coming out of the gas fire. I never found out what the cause was, but all that was left of car and caravan was the metal framework.This incident taught me the importance of distance between pitches, the gas is never left on. I turn it on to cook, then let it burn out of the pipes when it's turned off at the cylinder.
I carry a fire extinguisher and fire blanket, but when you think of it, as soon as you open the door to get out the air will fan the flames.
Once you witness a caravan fire you never forget it.
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We retuned to caravanning last year and I'm ashamed to say that we don't have a fire extinguisher. Needless to say I'm ordering 2 (due to the layout of our van) prompted by this incident.
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