On the Peg - but how far in front?

Navigateur
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edited July 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I've just observed some perfectly legitimate by the rules but rather ungentlemanly behaviour, and I would like to gauge what other members think of it.

Imagine a site with lots of space between a row of pitches and the access road, the other side of which is a great view that those siting their vans want to maximise. So along comes a new arrival who wants the best view so the van gets pitched "to the peg" but about five feet in front of it. Next one to pitch realised half the view was blocked on one side so pitches ten feet out, then the next fifteen feet out! This results in some vans having no view apart from straight ahead, so folk begin to move theirs forwards.

What do other members think of this practice?

[This is not another thread about Wardens' Discretion]

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  • Freelander359
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    edited July 2016 #2

    Is it legitimate though? If the wording is " to the peg" then 5 feet in front is non-compliance.

  • Kennine
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    edited July 2016 #3

    If the person is within the chosen pitch and is pitched as directed by the warden then ---- tough.

      IMO   --- They have done nothing wrong.   Live with it... 

    Wink

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #4

    I don't think it would bother me. I would be happy with the view in front. I assume there is a minimum of 6 metres between vans, so it would it is not like you are that close to the other vans. Personally I would pitch just in front of the peg, preferring
    to have the space in front rather than behind the van.

  • Wherenext
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    edited July 2016 #5

    We have a small caravan (5.15 metres) and will utilise the space on the pitch so that we have the optimum comfort, ie no overhanging trees, or better sunshine, or better views etc. I don't tell larger caravans how they should pitch but they invariably block my view. It's just one of those things you have to put up with. Don't see why I should worry about others if I'm not infringing any rules.

    One of the reasons I prefer CLs.

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited July 2016 #6

    We reverse down the side of the peg - within an inch of it but overhang the back of the pitch so that we fit on better. I like to be as far back on the pitch as possible but assuming they are corner to the peg in terms of width of the pitch I dont think
    there is any CC directive which is how it should stay - we do not need any more directives! As long as their front end is on the pitch its fine surely.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #7

    if its a hardstanding pitch you know where the front of it ends (usually the road) so providing the van is somewhere on the gravel and you're hitch isn't sticking out onto the road that is OK isn't it?  Witha
    grass pitch its more difficult to gauge but 5 feets is a little OTT.

    Would it bother me? no, the van is just a room on wheels, and you can't really stare at a view all the time.

  • ABM
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    edited July 2016 #8

    If  I  win  the  Lottery  soon,  I'll  have  nice  new  purpose -- built  circular  caravan  just  to  tease  folk  on  'ere

    Then  there'll  be  no  corners  to  put  to  the  peg  !

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  • JillwithaJay
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    edited July 2016 #9

    A bit selfish maybe.  Many gravel pitches have what I'd term a pedestrian walkway strip parallel to the roadway so anybody walking along can walk on the gravel rather than the actual roadway and therefore, not be in a hazardous position.

    Must say that I'm surprised that, if the site staff are aware, they haven't asked them all to move back.

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  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2016 #10

    Having a long T/A, we generally go right back, even overhanging the grass if the pitch is not long enough.  We would rather be well back than close to the road, for the safety of the van if nothing else.

    We don't need a view from the van, if there is a view we can go outside and enjoy it.

    We have a lovely view from our house, so a view is not a novelty for us.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited July 2016 #11

    if they are in the confines of the pitch where's the problem. Anyway I only use the caravan to sleep, shower and eat a few meals in, them I'm out and about.

  • Wildwood
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    edited July 2016 #12

    I agree with Corners. As long as the hitch is within the pitch boundary it is within the rules but for us we find the available space is not going to give us a lot of leeway.

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2016 #13

    Does the peg delineate the back of the pitch? There's masses of space at the back of my pitch. Twenty metres to the back of the van across the way. Theoretically, I could pitch a whole van's length back from the road and still not encroach on a 6M gap.

  • scarletsfan
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    edited July 2016 #14

    I'd always though that it was supposed to be rear off side corner to the peg.

  • Kennine
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    edited July 2016 #15

    The person described in the opening post obiously had pitched in accordance with the rules of the site.   Otherwise the Warden Staff carrying out their regular patrols of the site would have noticed and corrected any mistake. Wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #16

    I'd always though that it was supposed to be rear off side corner to the peg.

    or front nearside in going nose in

  • scoutman
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    edited July 2016 #17

    Surely the marker post indicates the edge beyond which the unit must not be placed ie. looking from the road, not to the left. As long as the tow hitch does not cause an obstruction or danger to others, then how far back on the pitch is purely up to the
    member.

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2016 #18

    Just to keep thoughts "in line" I would mention that from the edge of the roadway to the rear of the mown pitching area was about three times the length of my caravan, making it around 25 meters. The EHU bollards and the pegs were fully at the rear.

  • Wildwood
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    edited July 2016 #19

    Pitch length varies quite a bit but at a rough guess 8 metres is about the minimum and many are not a lot bigger..

  • ABM
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    edited July 2016 #20

    Note  to  self  >>>>   Buy  one  of  them  there  'Laser  Measuring  Thingummybobs'  before  your  next  outing  !!Money Mouth

  • Whittakerr
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    edited July 2016 #21

    Just to keep thoughts "in line" I would mention that from the edge of the roadway to the rear of the mown pitching area was about three times the length of my caravan, making it around 25 meters. The EHU bollards and the pegs were fully at the rear.

    Navigateur, which site was it. I’ve not been to one with such generous pitches.

  • Stewartwebr
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    edited July 2016 #22

    We have just returned from Commons Wood site and they have gone even further than the peg method on the grass pitches. The warden sprays a large L from the peg and you should ensure you rear and drivers side are running parrallel with the L. Works okay for
    me and what a transformation of the site. The hardstandings used to be like pens with high hedging on 3 sides. They have all been cut down to around 3 ft and what a difference it makes. The site feels so much more open.

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2016 #23

    Navigateur, which site was it. I’ve not been to one with such generous pitches.

    New England Bay, on the shore line section, although there are very "deep" pitches elsewhere in the site as well. Well worth a visit to get away from it all, apart from a fish and chip van on Friday.

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  • EasyT
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    edited July 2016 #25

    Navigateur, which site was it. I’ve not been to one with such generous pitches.

    New England Bay, on the shore line section, although there are very "deep" pitches elsewhere in the site as well. Well worth a visit to get away from it all, apart from a fish and chip van on Friday.

    A lovely location and pleasant site. Must have been many sites with space 20 years ago as my late wife and daughter No.2 and I went away one summer holiday for 7 weeks and 14 sites. On a fair number of those we hooked up to car the night before for an early
    morning quiet departure. Not many sites where you can do that now. We used to do similar on some weekend sites where we had up to 2 hours drive home and home was only 3 or 4 miles from work. I would drop wife and children off at home and carry on to work with
    the caravan attached if necessary. 

  • Fysherman
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    edited July 2016 #26

    We have just returned from Commons Wood site and they have gone even further than the peg method on the grass pitches. The warden sprays a large L from the peg and you should ensure you rear and drivers side are running parrallel with the L. Works okay for me and what a transformation of the site. The hardstandings used to be like pens with high hedging on 3 sides. They have all been cut down to around 3 ft and what a difference it makes. The site feels so much more open.

    Thanks for the heads up, it sounds awful, totally horrendous. We were going to go in November. If a warden is spraying lines where to pitch and is cutting down hedges that gave a degree of privacy we are not going under any circumstances.

    Can anyone recommend somewhere else for a week in November with reasonable links to London? Been to Abbey Wood and would consider it again but we would prefer north of London

  • Goldie146
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    edited July 2016 #27

    We have just returned from Commons Wood site and they have gone even further than the peg method on the grass pitches. The warden sprays a large L from the peg and you should ensure you rear and drivers side are running parrallel with the L. Works okay for
    me and what a transformation of the site. The hardstandings used to be like pens with high hedging on 3 sides. They have all been cut down to around 3 ft and what a difference it makes. The site feels so much more open.

    Thanks for the heads up, it sounds awful, totally horrendous. We were going to go in November. If a warden is spraying lines where to pitch and is cutting down hedges that gave a degree of privacy we are not going under any circumstances.

    Can anyone recommend somewhere else for a week in November with reasonable links to London? Been to Abbey Wood and would consider it again but we would prefer north of London

    How high do you want the hedges? Three foot is high, without being claustrophobic 

  • Fysherman
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    edited July 2016 #28

    Please disregard my last paragraph as it is off topic and I realise that some posters don't like it.

    Goldie, about 6 to 7 foot is enough to give some privacy. Remember that we all like different things.

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2016 #29

    We have just returned from Commons Wood site and they have gone even further than the peg method on the grass pitches. The warden sprays a large L from the peg and you should ensure you rear and drivers side are running parrallel with the L. Works okay for
    me and what a transformation of the site. The hardstandings used to be like pens with high hedging on 3 sides. They have all been cut down to around 3 ft and what a difference it makes. The site feels so much more open.

    Thanks for the heads up, it sounds awful, totally horrendous. We were going to go in November. If a warden is spraying lines where to pitch and is cutting down hedges that gave a degree of privacy we are not going under any circumstances.

     

    I am sure that you will be missed

  • Fysherman
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    edited July 2016 #30

    Thanks ET. You make this forum such a friendy place.Sad

    So tolerant of others views - not!

     

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2016 #31

    Thanks ET. You make this forum such a friendy place.Sad

    So tolerant of others views - not!

     

    I obviously was not feeling charitable for which I appologise if I offended Fysherman