Speed limit
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Sorry Cyber I beg to differ. I have a Garmin GPS that I use for walking in the hills. It also has a screen that measures walking speed. When we are ambling along a road at a steady pace it registers 3 to 3.3 mph. If I really stride out I can get to about 4 to 4.5 mph for short spells and I am fairly geriatric. I can walk at 2mph on rough tracks and up moderate hills. However, the point I was trying to make was, that it is not difficult to tell the difference between a speed of about 4 / 5 mph and 10 mph.
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Ther are not many people left in this world that obey any rules,regulations or laws!!!!!In my opinion....people have become ignorant arrogent a...holes...what has brought this about I do not know,compete lack of respect for others!!!All I want to do now
is die..I have had my 3 score years and ten and I am an old person who should not be allowed to vote in a reforendum concerning the country in which i was born,educated and loved.....Speeding on site is an indication of the modern generations outlook on life....goodbye!0 -
My OH and I,both in our 70s, walk every day whatever the weather and we regularly average just over 3 mph and that is in the high Pennines with some gradients in excess of 16%. But I agree that 5mph is easy to maintain, but few drivers on club sites do it.
Recently I saw speeds which I estimated well in excess of 10mph or more. It wasn't young petrolheads either but people of more mature years who really should know better.0 -
The only thing that will stop people speeding is other members having a word. If it persists, then get the warden involved. A lot of the time, people speed because they have always done and dont realise they are doing it. Once they know other members
are watching, they will probably not want to draw attention to themeselves again.0 -
>>>> Once they know other members are watching, they will probably not want to draw attention to themeselves again.<<<<
I've just seen a pig flying
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Its the Warden's job to know what is happening on their site .. Thats what they are being paid for.
The CC has produced a number of safety rules for peoples safety. It is up to the Wardens to ensure that those rules are complied with and deal with offenders by ejecting them from the site. This ejection should trigger Head Office to cancel the membership of the offender.
Until the wardens start wardening on their sites, the CC on-site safety rules will continue to be ignored.
K
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Its the Warden's job to know what is happening on their site .. Thats what they are being paid for.
The CC has produced a number of safety rules for peoples safety. It is up to the Wardens to ensure that those rules are complied with and deal with offenders by ejecting them from the site. This ejection should trigger Head Office to cancel the membership of the offender.
Until the wardens start wardening on their sites, the CC on-site safety rules will continue to be ignored.
K
. Another post where real world and fantasy collide
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Its the Warden's job to know what is happening on their site .. Thats what they are being paid for.
The CC has produced a number of safety rules for peoples safety. It is up to the Wardens to ensure that those rules are complied with and deal with offenders by ejecting them from the site. This ejection should trigger Head Office to cancel the membership of the offender.
Until the wardens start wardening on their sites, the CC on-site safety rules will continue to be ignored.
K
. Another post where real world and fantasy collide
Write your comments here...There are unfortunately those who dont want to comply with the CC on-site rules and continually have a go at the CC for making them. . If they dont like CC rules being applied they are in the wrong club, they should find other campsites to spend their holidays.
K
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For me, the most important thing about the speed limit is why it is needed. There are children on site, yes they ride bikes paying little attention to cars, they run in a similar fashion.. They are children, they have not fully understood the dangers and
believe a caravan site to be a safe place.0 -
As a perrson who has ,(through friends) seen the other side of a wardens work load,and the "problems?" that are presented to them by on site "members"on a regular basis,those who post on here trying to justify their "ideal world"should really get themselves
some therapy0 -
As a perrson who has ,(through friends) seen the other side of a wardens work load,and the "problems?" that are presented to them by on site "members"on a regular basis,those who post on here trying to justify their "ideal world"should really get themselves some therapy
Write your comments here...To suggest that those who have a different opinion to themselves need "Therapy" is against this forum's T&C's and also extremely discourteous. This is a friendly forum and may I suggest that those, who resort to suggesting that others need medical intervention because they are supporting the CC rules, are members of the wrong forum.----- Perhaps those people should find a forum which is more in keeping with their own opinions.
K
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As a perrson who has ,(through friends) seen the other side of a wardens work load,and the "problems?" that are presented to them by on site "members"on a regular basis,those who post on here trying to justify their "ideal world"should really get
themselves some therapyThat is an awful thing to say and you should aplogogise, JVB.
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I would think that onb most sites there are more kids speeding on their bicycles on a site than motorists and these kids are definitely exceeding the 5mph limit. In addition, many ride on the site roads contary to the one way signs.
BTW if I recall correctly, the child that was killed at Rowntree Park collided with a vehicle travelling at less than 5mph and the motorist was
NOT at fault. Apparently the child had cut between some bushes or buildings while riding his cycle. Perhaps someone can correct me if I am wrong?0 -
As a perrson who has ,(through friends) seen the other side of a wardens work load,and the "problems?" that are presented to them by on site "members"on a regular basis,those who post on here trying to justify their "ideal world"should really get
themselves some therapyThat is an awful thing to say and you should aplogogise, JVB.
...pot and kettle spring to mind
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The caravan site roads should only be used by cycles when entering or leaving the site.
The site roads are not playgrounds and should not be used as such. Cycles should follow the same rules - direction signs and speed limit - as all other vehicles.
And wardens should enforce those rules.
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Recently at the Moreton site I was walking just past the play area when I heard a vehicle behind me, I moved onto the grass to have a car and caravan come past me at some considerable speed. The speed continued as he swept around the corner then stopped
to claim,what is a very nice pitch. He clearly knew where he was heading and wanted to get there before anyone else. Before anyone asks - no I didn't say anything to him as seemed there was a domestic going on between him and his wife. However, he had a personalised
number plate and if I had seen him speeding again I would have informed the warden. I would guess he was in his 70s, so not young, but very determined. Made me smile later in the day though when I walked past again to hear him moaning that his tv cable wouldn't
reach the electric point, which was a long way away, so not the perfect pitch after all.0 -
Surfer is correct in his summary of the sad incident at Rowntree Park. The tragic thing is that there is a playground right next to this site and it has an area for bikes!
And yet still to this day, parents simply let their kids go off riding bikes round and round that site at speed.
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As a perrson who has ,(through friends) seen the other side of a wardens work load,and the "problems?" that are presented to them by on site "members"on a regular basis,those who post on here trying to justify their "ideal world"should really get themselves
some therapyWrite your comments here...To suggest that those who have a different opinion to themselves need "Therapy" is against this forum's T&C's and also extremely discourteous. This is a friendly forum and may I suggest that those, who resort to suggesting that
others need medical intervention because they are supporting the CC rules, are members of the wrong forum.----- Perhaps those people should find a forum which is more in keeping with their own opinions.K
Write your comments here...pot and kettle again
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Cycles should follow the same rules - direction signs and speed limit - as all other vehicles.
I would take the opposite view and either make it 2 way for cycles or one way but against the flow of traffic. On of the main reasons that members probably spped on site is that they know that noone should be approaching them. As previously mentioned it is far safer for cyclists (young and old ) if they can see approaching traffic
In additon if it is not safe for children to act as children on CC sites then is it time to make them adult only?
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I would think that onb most sites there are more kids speeding on their bicycles on a site than motorists and these kids are definitely exceeding the 5mph limit. In addition, many ride on the site roads contary to the one way signs.
BTW if I recall correctly, the child that was killed at Rowntree Park collided with a vehicle travelling at less than 5mph and the motorist was
NOT at fault. Apparently the child had cut between some bushes or buildings while riding his cycle. Perhaps someone can correct me if I am wrong?I think you are probably correct Surfer, but I imagine that even so, the driver has to live with that incident daily as will the parents of the unfortunate child. The fact that the vehicle may have been within the speed limit will be of little compensation.
I imagine few would relish the prospect of being involved or even being a witness. Despite this and other incidents, drivers still speed, and parents still give young children freedom to roam on sites. It is a harsh lesson to learn.0 -
In additon if it is not safe for children to act as children on CC sites then is it time to make them adult only?
That might solve the problem of danger to children, however not danger to adults, who are simply trying to walk to the block, or fill up their Aquaroll. No, what is needed is for people to act responsibly and obey what is a very simple rule.
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Cycles should follow the same rules - direction signs and speed limit - as all other vehicles.
I would take the opposite view and either make it 2 way for cycles or one way but against the flow of traffic. On of the main reasons that members probably spped on site is that they know that noone should be approaching them. As previously mentioned it
is far safer for cyclists (young and old ) if they can see approaching trafficIn additon if it is not safe for children to act as children on CC sites then is it time to make them adult only?
I think that your sugestion is extremely dangerous, Terry and will not teach children the 'rules of the road'.
However, we will have to agree to differ on this.
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Cycles should follow the same rules - direction signs and speed limit - as all other vehicles.
I would take the opposite view and either make it 2 way for cycles or one way but against the flow of traffic. On of the main reasons that members probably spped on site is that they know that noone should be approaching them. As previously mentioned it is far safer for cyclists (young and old ) if they can see approaching traffic
In additon if it is not safe for children to act as children on CC sites then is it time to make them adult only?
I think that your sugestion is extremely dangerous, Terry and will not teach children the 'rules of the road'.
However, we will have to agree to differ on this.
But,if i am going to get run over i would like to see what hit me
, so walking/cycling against the flow of traffic makes sence0 -
I would think that onb most sites there are more kids speeding on their bicycles on a site than motorists and these kids are definitely exceeding the 5mph limit. In addition, many ride on the site roads contary to the one way signs.
BTW if I recall correctly, the child that was killed at Rowntree Park collided with a vehicle travelling at less than 5mph and the motorist was
NOT at fault. Apparently the child had cut between some bushes or buildings while riding his cycle. Perhaps someone can correct me if I am wrong?I think you are probably correct Surfer, but I imagine that even so, the driver has to live with that incident daily as will the parents of the unfortunate child. The fact that the vehicle may have been within the speed limit will be of little compensation.
I imagine few would relish the prospect of being involved or even being a witness. Despite this and other incidents, drivers still speed, and parents still give young children freedom to roam on sites. It is a harsh lesson to learn.Correct and IMHO children should not be allowed to cycle around a caravan park unsupervised. If the child had been supervised the accident would never have occured. After all a caravan site is not one huge playground for children as most sites have a dedicated
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In additon if it is not safe for children to act as children on CC sites then is it time to make them adult only?
Children can act as children within the designated areas for children and not roam all over a caravan site speeding on their bicycles as all the parents want is to get the kids out of their hair. It is not the fault of the kids that the parents have no
interest in supervising them.0
