Bring back the scythe

vpd00114
vpd00114 Forum Participant Posts: 12
edited June 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Please forgive me if this subject has already been discussed but I'm a newcomer to posting on here.

I've spent the last four weeks touring around scotland staying at various CC sites.

My main observation (complaint) is that all the toys they (we) provide the male wardens should either be replaced with hand tools or fitted with silencers. I refer to the ride on lawn mowers, strimmers, blowers etc. I can honestly say that at every site I've stayed on the kids were out playing with thier infernal contraptions. Could it be that wardens feel the need to continually cut grass because they have little else to do and it encourages members to leave site during the day!

Don't think I'm unappreciative of the wardens and the job they do - its just that always seem to be doing while I'm there.

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  • chrisn7
    chrisn7 Forum Participant Posts: 72
    edited June 2016 #2

    For a first post, that's an abolute belter! Should rank with Sunday departures, kids, dogs and noseweight...

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2016 #3

    There was another thread recently where the wardens were being criticised for letting the grass get too long. Unfortunately you cannot please all of the people all of the time. You could just do what we have done when  they were mowing nearby, go for a walk until they finished.

  • Dickdastardly1
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    edited June 2016 #4

    Please forgive me if this subject has already been discussed but I'm a newcomer to posting on here.

    I've spent the last four weeks touring around scotland staying at various CC sites.

    My main observation (complaint) is that all the toys they (we) provide the male wardens should either be replaced with hand tools or fitted with silencers. I refer to the ride on lawn mowers, strimmers, blowers etc. I can honestly say that at every site I've stayed on the kids were out playing with thier infernal contraptions. Could it be that wardens feel the need to continually cut grass because they have little else to do and it encourages members to leave site during the day!

    Don't think I'm unappreciative of the wardens and the job they do - its just that always seem to be doing while I'm there.

    The CC are replacing the petrol driven contrapations as you call them with battery powered types when they need repalcing. As someone who is a warden on a 35 acre site the need to cut grass and trim hedges is a constant factor that we cannot get away from. We do try and schedule maintenance around the members by dividing the site up. .....As for having other things to do, wardens work very hard in the office and doing groundwork to keep up the high standards we all require, as for other things to do believe me when I say we have plenty to check on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly and six monthly basis. By the way, all wardens are members of the club, you presently cannot become a warden without being a member !

  • vpd00114
    vpd00114 Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited June 2016 #5

    I'm glad to hear that the club is slowly moving to electric vehicles. Hope this includes hand tools such as strimmers etc. Hope also that they are not fitting elctric vehicles with annoying flashing lights and audible warnings.

    Perhaps the next step is driver less lawn mowers

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #6

    The trouble is, vjd, that Club sites get cluttered up with caravans and MHs and they really get in the way of wardens trying to cut the grass. It would be so much easier for wardens if sites were empty and then they could whip around it all in a few hours instead of having to do a bit at a time due to inconsiderate campers insisting on using the pitches.Laughing

    Incidentally, female wardens use the machinery as well.

    Welcome to CT.

  • vpd00114
    vpd00114 Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited June 2016 #7

    With the use of quiet electric driverless mowers issues like inconsidetate campets and equal rights would be a thing of the past even cutting the grass over nite.

    While being appreciative of the club wardens.and the sites etc I was thinking some higher body was tipping off the wardens  to commence.with noise generator on our arrival

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #8

    Artifical grass , no mowing ,no muddy patches , it's the way fowardWink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #9

    The trouble is, vjd, that Club sites get cluttered up with caravans and MHs and they really get in the way of wardens trying to cut the grass. It would be so much easier for wardens if sites were empty and then they could whip around it all in a few hours instead of having to do a bit at a time due to inconsiderate campers insisting on using the pitches.Laughing

    Incidentally, female wardens use the machinery as well.

    Welcome to CT.

    but its worse than that TW, aprt from leaving their vans and MH about some even insist on leaving the EHU cable a) out all day rather than winding it up each in morning, and b) actually leave the cable on the grass itself!!!, totally inconsiderate behaviour in my view which slows down the cutting process by wardens having to move and/or disconect the cable. Anyone who does so shouldn't be annoyed when the wardens just cut through it

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #10

    You may have a point, vpd, and it may be something targeted at you personally. I should complain to the higher authority if I were you.Tongue Out

    I think Husky may have hit upon a solution and the artificial grass, coupled with plastic bushes should save the need for all that trimming and mowing. In fact we may not need so many wardens and that could see site fees fall. Lots of people will be happy then. Well done that Dog! Laughing

    Corners, you are so right. The things some people leave out when they go out for the day are amazing. Even awnings I've noticed aren't packed away!

  • holmesonwheels24
    holmesonwheels24 Forum Participant Posts: 148
    edited June 2016 #11

    Watched a warden last week blow some leaves about 15/20 yards, he blew them onto the grass at side of road. This exercise took abouy 20 minutes . I think using a brush and dustpan could would have taken much less time and the leaves could have gone into
    the bin and not being blown about later on. However i do think the warden teams do a good job in general.

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #12

    Perhaps he was trying to turn over a new leaf Cool

  • vpd00114
    vpd00114 Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited June 2016 #13

    Many good suggestions but you need to consider those members who enjoy watching the grass grow and even those who enjoy watching other people work. Me - just do it quietly not a lot to ask from the club.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #14

    I fear it is a lot to ask, vpd, but nice to read your posts.Happy

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #15

    Well, grass cutting isn't a problem here.....it's only been cut once in three weeks and by the look of it when we arrived, not for 2-3 weeks up to then.

    Not a problem at all to me though, if it saves some money and reduces the site fees.

    Oh! Innocent

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2016 #16

    The rabbits do most of the grass maintenance at Broadway normally are they on holidays Cool

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #17

    Artificial Grass- brilliant idea. No cutting required. Gives the warden staff the time to clean the public toilets more than once a day.---AND ---- Give them more time for walking round their sites and speaking to caravanners. AND ensuring that tha CC on-site
    rules are strictly adhered to.

    A definite Win Win situation.

    Well done to whoever suggested the artificial grass.

    KCool

     

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #18

    It was me,meLaughingEmbarassed

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #19

    It was me,meLaughingEmbarassed

    Write your comments here...Good dog !!!   have another dog treat, you deserve it.

    K WinkSmile

  • Navigateur
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    edited June 2016 #20

    Back in the mists of time some so-called bright spark (who will now never own up) decided that the club would save money in the provision of electricity to pitches by installing only an occasional bollard and having the hapless caravaners provide the last
    bit of cabling.  Oh how that has cost the club in the long run - how much warden time has been wasted stopping to move cables in the 35 or so years over the hundreds of sites and thousands of pitches!  Even now money could be started to be saved by providing
    an EHU on each pitch.

  • geordie01
    geordie01 Forum Participant Posts: 108
    edited June 2016 #21

    Sheep and goats roaming around the site could be the way forward, Quite like curry goat and my last rabbit stew was lovely and very cheap!

  • Wildwood
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    edited June 2016 #22

    When I saw the title of the post My problem was would it get past Health and Safety given the size of an unprotected blade the size of that on a sythe. They would have visions of the warden swinging the sythe and chopping of three childrens legs a t the
    knees. I then realised that quite a few members would welcome this as it would stop the children kicking balls against their caravans,

  • Navigateur
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    edited June 2016 #23

    Not a good idea as the children would then run around in a circle like a dememted haggis - and probably screaming like one as well.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2016 #24

    When I saw the title of the post My problem was would it get past Health and Safety  ...,

    Trust you Cool

  • chrisn7
    chrisn7 Forum Participant Posts: 72
    edited June 2016 #25

    Of course there isn't as much grass to cut now...since large amounts of it have been covered by hardstanding impenetrable to rock pegs

  • IainM1970
    IainM1970 Forum Participant Posts: 170
    edited June 2016 #26

    Since when was grass cutting the preserve of the male warden only???

    Go to Balbirnie Park, Edinburgh etc and the female staff are out with their lawn mowers too!

  • DaveandVicki
    DaveandVicki Forum Participant Posts: 192
    edited June 2016 #27

    Sheep and goats roaming around the site could be the way forward, Quite like curry goat and my last rabbit stew was lovely and very cheap!

    Slight tiny flaw in this plan.

    How can I put this delicately.

    Sheep and goats have a tendancy to leave poo behind, now say what you will about wardens but the do NOT have the habit of pooing all over the site.

    That is unless someone can confirm it's not dogs doing the business. SurprisedWinkSmile

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2016 #28

     ....

    Slight tiny flaw in this plan.

    How can I put this delicately.

    Sheep and goats have a tendancy to leave poo behind,  ...

    I've shared a CL site with sheep before now, & a site we use often is a field that has sheep moved through to get to their field & have left poo behind. No big deal. Laughing

  • Graeme47
    Graeme47 Forum Participant Posts: 4
    edited July 2016 #29

    Enjoyed reading these comments but I would add that I am seriously thinking of using CLs only. Obsessive mowing really does spoil the peace and quiet if you decide to have a restful day on site. Some pitches here have been mown at least twice in 4 - 5 days
    so not much actual grass cut but fair bit of pollution! Oh no here he comes again! Keeping noise level up till jets start flying over. Make them use old fashioned push mowers, or issue us with ear defenders at check in! By the way, I am usually an easy going
    sort of person! But ... And don't get e started on so called biodiversity sites!

     

  • Graeme47
    Graeme47 Forum Participant Posts: 4
    edited July 2016 #30

    I reckon he has been mowing for best part of 2 hours and just gone by now with trailer empty apart from strimmer because not managed to fill mower box with enough grass clippings to need it being emptied!

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2016 #31

    On the site I spent last week at I took a bit more notice than usual of the mowing activity and my observation showed that it was almost all quite sensible. 

    Firstly, I discounted all the tractor movements involved in removing rubbish, transporting cleaning materials, etc and going to/from the storage area.

    The pattern for the remainder of actual "mowing" involved going round the site a number of times visiting the pitches or strips between hard standings that had recently been vacated. Now some folk leave early, some late, and a few actually after noon (whether
    by agreement or just cussedness). There would not be sufficient time between the last departure and first arrival to mow ALL the areas, so a couple of laps doing what can be done early seems a sensible approach.