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  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited May 2016 #92

    i think the rule is about access when two caravan meet in a narrow lane . ie Ramslade,fairlight wood , treamble valley and daleacres. all of these site wood be hell to past another caravan or motorhome on the way in or out.     dave

    That may be the idea, but as motorhomes go in and out all day, and wardens use their discretion to let people stay beyond 12, or people pay for the extra night at the end of their stay so they can leave late, they may well meet another outfit on the lane
    so it cannot be just to avoid this

     

  • DS3
    DS3 Forum Participant Posts: 108
    edited May 2016 #93

    Because some people are so selfish, childish and arrogant that they need to get there first so they can have the best pitch. 

    We were allowed on site yesterday at 9.30am but we had phoned first and because we wanted to be here the day before but they were full, they let us get here early so we could go on a pitch that had been vacated by an early leaver heading for the channel
    tunnel. 

    On the first page of this thread there is a very sexist post, is it still there because it was aimed at men or is sexism allowed on here? Undecided

  • DS3
    DS3 Forum Participant Posts: 108
    edited May 2016 #94

    I think it's because when sites are full, they would have a queue forming for quite a way if everyone turned up at 9am but everyone already on site left at midday. Winking

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #95

    I'm still not convinced about this "grab the best pitch" argument. We'd like to be on site earlier to get pitched up and than off out for the day. We'd accept that arriving early means less choice of pitch anyway.

    It's the 12 o'clock deadline which leads to the mad scramble for pitches.

    But there we are, we know what the rules are, so at the moment we go along with them ( or head to a CL where the problem rarely exists! Happy)

  • AlanAlde53
    AlanAlde53 Forum Participant Posts: 27
    edited May 2016 #96

    or even head abroad where it definitely rarely exists - we arrived on site this morning at 10.30am to another friendly greeting

    For the record the last 100m is very narrow but still arrivals at any time

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited May 2016 #97

    Because some people are so selfish, childish and arrogant that they need to get there first so they can have the best pitch. ...........We were allowed on site yesterday at 9.30am

    Sorry but no!  We would like to have arrived at 9.30 on the last site - its only an hour from home so we could easily have set off to arrive at 9.30.  We would have happily paid to do this but its not allowed. So IMO you shouldnt have been allowed to either
    - any more than other members who post on here they 'have' to arrive early so they can go off an deliver pizzas so they just ring the site and get special dispensation. Unless it is a genuine one off - eg a funeral - then the rule should be for everyone, and
    phoning the site to make a personal arrangement with the warden shouldnt change that rule.




  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2016 #98

    or even head abroad where it definitely rarely exists - we arrived on site this morning at 10.30am to another friendly greeting

    For the record the last 100m is very narrow but still arrivals at any time

    But this is about CC sites in the UK 'Alan'. As if you didn't know.Wink

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #99

    "We were allowed on site yesterday at 9.30am but we had phoned first"





    Just seen your other thread - bet you wish you hadn't bothered now! Wink

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 2016 #100

    I've come to this thread rather late but generally agree with Moulesy. We're abroad at the moment and different rules apply. We've arrived early and left late and not a hair has been turned BUT we belong to a Club that has rules and the last time I looked
    the rules applied to ONE and ALL. No ifs no buts!

    So when in the Uk we arrive after 12.00. Would we like to arrive earlier. Yes, we probably would and I see no reason why it can't be accomodated on some sites and in some seasons. Not much point having a 12.00 rule if the site is half empty. 

    However until this rule is changeed then I would ask all wardens to turn early leavers away (within reason) and have advocated a yellow card  type warning for persistent offenders in the past.

    Perhaps somebody who actually works in the Sites dept could instigate a review of which sites could easily accomodate early arrivals and which definitely couldn't. I presume that would be part of their remit!

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #101

    Because some people are so selfish, childish and arrogant that they need to get there first so they can have the best pitch. 

    We were allowed on site yesterday at 9.30am but we had phoned first and because we wanted to be here the day before but they were full, they let us get here early so we could go on a pitch that had been vacated by an early leaver heading for the channel
    tunnel. 

    On the first page of this thread there is a very sexist post, is it still there because it was aimed at men or is sexism allowed on here? Undecided

    No it is probably because statistically it is correct.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman Forum Participant Posts: 2,367
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    edited May 2016 #102

    e thosearrivng before

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2016 #103

    Dont see how those arrivig early "get the best pitches" as many pitches will in any case be occupied by those leaving as late as possible. I laugh at what goes on in this thread as I am laid back and enjoy my caravaning and dont suffer high blood pressure
    because someone does something a little different,

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,657 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #104

    If posters want the CC to change their arrival time rules, they should write to the CC head office with their request.  Thats the correct method of suggesting rule change.

    K Wink

    Just what I was trying to say in my previous post,  K. Thanks.Laughing 

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,657 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #105

    The point being that you don't arrive early, what's an extra hour here or there?

    An hour makes a lot of difference to whether you have time to do anything in the afternoon - in the same way that people like to stay later on a Sunday to 'maximise the day' and have lunch etc we would like to arrive at 9 to do the same, but we dont/cant
    because the arrival time is 12.  This is why its annoying to see people turning up at 11, setting up then having the rest of the day when fools like us stick to the 12 and havent time to go out anywhere - eg for lunch - because we have stuck to the rules.

    Write your comments here...it should be in large letters across the membership card no arrivals before 1200 hrs

    might help if it  used brail as well, Cool

    There still would be those who'd want in early, even if it was stamped on their foreheads.Wink

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,657 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #106

    When we join up as club members we agree in principle to adhere to the club rules. However some members obviously think that the rules do not apply to them. If they do not agree to the rules then they should not have joined in the first instance. If they
    think that the rules should be different they are completely with their rights to partician for the rules to be altered, but until they are they should stick to them, however much they disagree with them.

    Can't argue with any of that, Nellie! Happy

    Some people can, and do.Sad

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited May 2016 #107

    Write your comments here...it should be in large letters across the membership card no arrivals before 1200 hrs

    But its not that cut and dried - Chatsworth is 1pm, Whitewater used to be 10.00 (not been for a while so not sure if it still is) and there are probably many more.  Makes no real odds as so many ignore it and wardens are complict by letting them in.

  • peedee
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    edited June 2016 #108

    I have heard a whisper/rumour that the Club will follow in the footsteps of the C&CC next year and fix departure times at before noon and arrival times not before 1p.m. for all sites and not just those with difficult access.

    peedee

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2016 #109

    I have heard a whisper/rumour that the Club will follow in the footsteps of the C&CC next year and fix departure times at before noon and arrival times not before 1p.m. for all sites and not just those with difficult access.

    peedee

    Well, that would be a shame and, coupled with the withdrawal of site night vouchers from the credit card, would probably leave us looking at CL/CS sites even more next year! Sad

  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2016 #110

    But the Club site loyalists will put up with anything. 

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #111

    I have heard a whisper/rumour that the Club will follow in the footsteps of the C&CC next year and fix departure times at before noon and arrival times not before 1p.m. for all sites and not just those with difficult access.

    peedee

    Well, that would be a shame and, coupled with the withdrawal of site night vouchers from the credit card, would probably leave us looking at CL/CS sites even more next year! Sad

    Same here.

    Can't see this happening though.......C&CC have taken a real battering from their members for introducing this change. In all proabablity, they will be reversing the decision next year. Rumour has it that they will change to 11am departures and 12 noon arrivals.

    That would suit me just fine.

  • peedee
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    edited June 2016 #112

    That sounds a better idea Ian and would certainly suit me better as long as it was rigidly enforced. I think with the sites getting busier every year there is less room for wardens discretion on arrival and departure times.

    peedee

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #113

    I do so agree, Peedee! Laughing

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2016 #114

    Good to see you agreeing that club sites are getting busier every year, Ian. Such a pleasant contrast to some of the negatives expressed so often on CT! Wink

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited June 2016 #115

    I have heard a whisper/rumour that the Club will follow in the footsteps of the C&CC next year and fix departure times at before noon and arrival times not before 1p.m. for all sites and not just those with difficult access.

    peedee

    Well, that would be a shame and, coupled with the withdrawal of site night vouchers from the credit card, would probably leave us looking at CL/CS sites even more next year! Sad

    Same here.

    Can't see this happening though.......C&CC have taken a real battering from their members for introducing this change. In all proabablity, they will be reversing the decision next year. Rumour has it that they will change to 11am departures and 12
    noon arrivals.

    That would suit me just fine.

    Write your comments here...That is a most sensible idea. Get the departing vanners well away from the site and it's approach roads long before the arriving Vanners arrive at the site. 

    It would have to be universal across the network and Enforced properly --- None of that Warden's discretion malarky. 

    Cool

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #116

    I have heard a whisper/rumour that the Club will follow in the footsteps of the C&CC next year and fix departure times at before noon and arrival times not before 1p.m. for all sites and not just those with difficult access.

    peedee

    Well, that would be a shame and, coupled with the withdrawal of site night vouchers from the credit card, would probably leave us looking at CL/CS sites even more next year! Sad

    Same here.

    Can't see this happening though.......C&CC have taken a real battering from their members for introducing this change. In all proabablity, they will be reversing the decision next year. Rumour has it that they will change to 11am departures and 12
    noon arrivals.

    That would suit me just fine.

    Write your comments here...That is a most sensible idea. Get the departing vanners well away from the site and it's approach roads long before the arriving Vanners arrive at the site. 

    It would have to be universal across the network and Enforced properly --- None of that Warden's discretion malarky. 

    Cool

    Not trying to re-open the Sunday Departures thread are you, K? Wink

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #117

    Good to see you agreeing that club sites are getting busier every year, Ian. Such a pleasant contrast to some of the negatives expressed so often on CT! Wink

    I was agreeing with the fact that there isn't any room for warden's discretion.......as well you know, sir! Smile

  • KenAndKathleenReay
    KenAndKathleenReay Forum Participant Posts: 61
    edited June 2016 #118

    Theoretically, unless one encountered exceptional traffic conditions throughout the journey, the longer the journey the more accurate it should be to calculate its duration.

    I would guess that for a four hour journey the variance could be plus or minus half an hour and, if early it, is possible to ease off and reduce the variance to say fifteen minutes. Anyone arriving two hours early must have crossed from a different time
    zone.

    You clearly have never driven Newcastle to Dover, via A1M and/or M1 rounded off with totally unpredictable M25

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2016 #119

    Good to see you agreeing that club sites are getting busier every year, Ian. Such a pleasant contrast to some of the negatives expressed so often on CT! Wink

    I was agreeing with the fact that there isn't any room for warden's discretion.......as well you know, sir! Smile

    Yes, I know, but it was just too good an opportunity to miss! Laughing