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Behind all the discussions on the subject there does seem to be a thread of 'arrive early to get the best pitch' - why am I not surprised. It's just a version of towels on loungers isn't it?
Most of the sites I have visited the warden decides on which pitch you get, and I think that this is probably the best solution.
Provided the booking system has worked the way it should, they will know the size of outfit, awning needs, number of adults and children etc. That eliminates the embarrassing rush in a trice - you get the pitch you're given, end of story.
The departure and arrival time issue will continue to generate debte for years to come. As with everything the danger comes when you have exceptions and local discretion. Once that happens it confuses people - it was OK at site X but not site Y.
I'm all in favour of rules - some of them may be insane, hidebound and pointless but they provide a common framework for everyone. The increasing number of vans on the roads means that there will be more pressure on sites in the future and so it seems better
to maintain a robust if slightly quirky process across all locations.0 -
Behind all the discussions on the subject there does seem to be a thread of 'arrive early to get the best pitch' - why am I not surprised. It's just a version of towels on loungers isn't it?
Most of the sites I have visited the warden decides on which pitch you get, and I think that this is probably the best solution.
Provided the booking system has worked the way it should, they will know the size of outfit, awning needs, number of adults and children etc. That eliminates the embarrassing rush in a trice - you get the pitch you're given, end of story.
The departure and arrival time issue will continue to generate debte for years to come. As with everything the danger comes when you have exceptions and local discretion. Once that happens it confuses people - it was OK at site X but not site Y.
I'm all in favour of rules - some of them may be insane, hidebound and pointless but they provide a common framework for everyone. The increasing number of vans on the roads means that there will be more pressure on sites in the future and so it seems better to maintain a robust if slightly quirky process across all locations.
Not sure how this helps if people arrive early to maximise their stay. Your assigned pitch may not even be free.
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Not sure how this helps if people arrive early to maximise their stay. Your assigned pitch may not even be free.
The point being that you don't arrive early, what's an extra hour here or there? I agree it is different if you are in a MH as it is easier to stop off at NT properties or whatever on the way - not many National Trust carparks are happy with caravans though
if they have a coach park you could be OK.It doesn't matter how you set a cut off point it will never keep everyone happy. If you say arrival is OK after 9am what about the folks on the pitches - do you have a kickout time at 7am?
If you are travelling in the knowledge that you will get a pitch and there is no choice then the 'rush to get the best' is out of the equation. Sorry, can't really help with maximising your stay - that's down to the number of hours in a day.
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The point being that you don't arrive early, what's an extra hour here or there?
An hour makes a lot of difference to whether you have time to do anything in the afternoon - in the same way that people like to stay later on a Sunday to 'maximise the day' and have lunch etc we would like to arrive at 9 to do the same, but we dont/cant
because the arrival time is 12. This is why its annoying to see people turning up at 11, setting up then having the rest of the day when fools like us stick to the 12 and havent time to go out anywhere - eg for lunch - because we have stuck to the rules.0 -
I would point out we also always stick to the rules and as we are away for long periods are not awfully bothered about arriving early to maximise our stay. However, those that only have a few days, or a weekend have a different take on the matter. The main point I was trying to make is that there is little point in assigning pitches, as anyone who flaunts the rules would still do so and hope to be let in. This is often the easiest option for the wardens, particularly on sites with no room to wait.
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The point being that you don't arrive early, what's an extra hour here or there?
An hour makes a lot of difference to whether you have time to do anything in the afternoon - in the same way that people like to stay later on a Sunday to 'maximise the day' and have lunch etc we would like to arrive at 9 to do the same, but we dont/cant because the arrival time is 12. This is why its annoying to see people turning up at 11, setting up then having the rest of the day when fools like us stick to the 12 and havent time to go out anywhere - eg for lunch - because we have stuck to the rules.
Write your comments here...it should be in large letters across the membership card no arrivals before 1200 hrs
might help if it used brail as well,
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But why no arrivals before 12.00? Why not 0900 as at the Edinburgh Club site?
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The point being that you don't arrive early, what's an extra hour here or there?
An hour makes a lot of difference to whether you have time to do anything in the afternoon - in the same way that people like to stay later on a Sunday to 'maximise the day' and have lunch etc we would like to arrive at 9 to do the same, but we dont/cant
because the arrival time is 12. This is why its annoying to see people turning up at 11, setting up then having the rest of the day when fools like us stick to the 12 and havent time to go out anywhere - eg for lunch - because we have stuck to the rules............which is why I am saying that if the rules are the rules and they are enforced without exception (unless a site makes a publicised decision to have a universal earlier or later switchover) then you won't have the problem with "queue jumpers" and
if there is no choice of pitch then that removes another factor. OK it does mean the wardens having to handle a rush but short of a free for all what's the answer?I do take the point about limiting available time, but no says you've got to pitch up on arrival - just dump the van, go off and have lunch and explore, then sort out the domestics when you get back - doesn't get dark till quite late at this time of year
so provided you're not banging steel awning pegs into the tarmac while the neighbours are trying to watch EastEnders you should be fine.0 -
If posters want the CC to change their arrival time rules, they should write to the CC head office with their request. Thats the correct method of suggesting rule change.
K
Very true, or you could put yourself forward and enter the procedure for election onto our club's committee structures which is where such suggestions I guess end up!
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I think that what a lot of people find annoying is that the 12 noon arrival time is often rigidly enforced (by both the CC and the C&CC) but the departure times are not.
Yes, I know what the rules say, but it's very frustrating to stick to the arrival rules, only to see people leave well into the afternoon.
The times should be rigidly enforced - 12 noon arrival, 12 noon departure. Fairest to all.
Either that or just leave the times completely open (as they do in other parts of the world) but apparantly that is too much for the CC to cope with because the 'site manager' also has to clean toilets......
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If posters want the CC to change their arrival time rules, they should write to the CC head office with their request. Thats the correct method of suggesting rule change.
K
Well, yes, and I assume that's what you'd do if you wanted a change to any rules, K, such as, let's say, the rule concerning departures!
But you're surely open minded enough to allow folk to have a friendly discussion about such rule changes on this forum aren't you?
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When we join up as club members we agree in principle to adhere to the club rules. However some members obviously think that the rules do not apply to them. If they do not agree to the rules then they should not have joined in the first instance. If they
think that the rules should be different they are completely with their rights to partician for the rules to be altered, but until they are they should stick to them, however much they disagree with them.Can't argue with any of that, Nellie!
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well I shall carry on being a good girl and not break the rules ,sit here on a Sat morn going stir crazy cos I can't set off ,just in case I arrive early ,or maybe I should go to the site at Pickering as you can arrive at 10am ,go figure !!!!
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Me too. I can't bear Club site rules and just go to other more relaxed places.
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Seems to me there are two or three flavoured drinks being poured into the same pot here, and the end result is pleasing no one. Those for whom getting to a site and pitching up as early as possible is a priority, those for whom the site is the holiday destination
and not that bothered about doing anything else even if they can, those who couldn't care less what ever time they arrive or what pitch they get! Nothing wrong with any of these requirements, except that using most Club Sites will be a compromise for most
of us.You browse the Club information, if you like it, you join, taking on board all the sometimes quirky and sometimes common sense baggage that goes with it. Only other remedies are to compromise and use a variety of site providers, change one's accommodation
so that you can roll up with ease at anytime after a day out, or upset everyone by not following Club guidance. Two of the above are reasonable compromises, but the latter, (until the Club decides otherwise) is going to upset a lot of people.0 -
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Most of the sites I have visited the warden decides on which pitch you get, and I think that this is probably the best solution.
Provided the booking system has worked the way it should, they will know the size of outfit, awning needs, number of adults and children etc. That eliminates the embarrassing rush in a trice - you get the pitch you're given, end of story.
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Presumably these were not all CC sites? My understanding is that pitch allocation is usually only used for large outfits at very busy periods.
Never been allocated a pitch on a CC site, but have once on a C&CC site (many years back) and a few times in Germany in the last 15 years.
Warden cannot not know what pitch we would like, so choosing ourselves is much better.
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But why no arrivals before 12.00? Why not 0900 as at the Edinburgh Club site?
Do a lot of people leave the Edinburgh site before 9am? Been there twice and never noticed anyone doing that!
Only (very rare) time we have left a site before 9am was when we had a ferry to catch.
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I think that what a lot of people find annoying is that the 12 noon arrival time is often rigidly enforced (by both the CC and the C&CC) but the departure times are not.
Yes, I know what the rules say, but it's very frustrating to stick to the arrival rules, only to see people leave well into the afternoon.
The times should be rigidly enforced - 12 noon arrival, 12 noon departure. Fairest to all.
I tend to agree with this Ian and have just made this very point about this frustration in a recent Club survey I have just had sent to me about a recent site visit. I arrived at about 1-10p.m. but there were still members leaving at 5p.m.
While it would be good to dispense with the departure and arrival time rules, I think the Clubs' sites are just too busy for this to work especially at weekends when this is the time members like to arrive as early as possible and depart as late as possible.
Of course if you have a motorhome you can start touring as soon as you leave home and on the the way back!
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Arrive early, leave late. Do it all the time, simply pay for the night before or the night after. Before I get accused of pitch blocking, the principle is the same as those who block book multiple weekends on the honeypot sites,big difference is I'm paying
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As you only pay on arrival at a CC site why is arrriving early, even if you are willing to pay for the previous night, any different than simply arriving early?
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As you only pay on arrival at a CC site why is arrriving early, even if you are willing to pay for the previous night, any different than simply arriving early?
Good point, 'Alan'! The person arriving at 11am would still arrive as people were trying to Ieave and possibly when the wardens were toilet cleaning.
How's France? The weather's beautiful here
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Arrive early, leave late. Do it all the time, simply pay for the night before or the night after. Before I get accused of pitch blocking, the principle is the same as those who block book multiple weekends on the honeypot sites,big difference
is I'm paying they may not be if they cancel within 72 hours. Let the mud slinging start.You can't pay for the night before as you pay on arrival.
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FYI weather in France today is fabulous but has been cloudy/ sunny for the past week
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I wish you could - I would happily pay for the night before then arrive at 9. If you paid online upfront at booking or in advance presumably you could do that and save all the time allocated to booking in.
Mind you on the site we were on the wardens werent too good on timekeeping - lots of outfits on from not long after 11, and the block that was supposedly shut at 10.30 for cleaning closed at 20 past.
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FYI weather in France today is fabulous but has been cloudy/ sunny for the past week
How nice. Hope it stays good for you, A, to make crossing the Channel worthwhile.
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Arrive early, leave late. Do it all the time, simply pay for the night before or the night after. Before I get accused of pitch blocking, the principle is the same as those who block book multiple weekends on the honeypot sites,big difference is I'm paying
they may not be if they cancel within 72 hours. Let the mud slinging start.Presumably you can only do this if you stop in late arrivals. Otherwise if you did not turn up until 10am you could find your booking had been canceled.
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