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I have not read every thread on here but here is my 2p worth.
Caravan club in general only sells pitches, commercial sites e.g.Haven have lots of other income streams on sites, bars, restauraunts, amusements, paid for sports etc. etc. so they can supplemnt a lower pitch fee with income from these other activities,
the low fee is there to get you in the door like say 2 for 1 meals in a pub, they make money on the deserts and drinks you buy!.Did a quick comparison for a 2 night stay at Haven Devon Cliffs for 25th June for 2 nights and it is £84. Sam stay at Hillhead as it is more a holiday type site and its £48!
Good post, Michael, and that's exactly the point. For every example of CC sites being more expensive than the alternatives, you can find several examples where they are cheaper. In general I think it's fair to say that commercial/private sites offer good
special deals in low season for those luck enough to be able to take advantage of them, but that in peak season CC prices, although they do rise, do not do so at anything like the extent the alternatives do. Personally, I think that is a fairer system than
having cheap deals subsidised by sky high prices in school holidays. Others think differently; that's their prerogative!
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I wonder if it's because of the age. Are a lot oh the Haven employees under 25 and therefor the living wage does not apply. Never been to haven so don't know
Write your comments here...Most of them are in jobs where they are making more money for Haven so the cost goes on these extras not the fees.
.....and thats not the case with CC at HQ selling pitches, insurances, ferries, etc, etc?
on this site at Haven they still have far more gardening, wardening, toilet cleaning staff than CC (two?) that must be chargable to 'sites' rather than 'other' parts of the business....
surely, the bar or restaurant will be a profit centre in its own right and will need to make money.....i dont see this subsidising sites.....though CC sites make a loss dont they, even at their rates?
yes the model is different, but the staff overheads (on the ground) must be enormous compared to CC.
Write your comments here...BB Maybe not profit centres but they have to pay their way and to do that they need bums on seats so ofer cheap pitch fees to attract poeple in who then spend cash on site so may not make much overall but better than paying staff
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I think youwill find that manynof us "off peakers" now get far better offers from commercial sites. This must be a great loss in income to the club. How do they rectify it - only one way jack up the "peak"prices. Just watch next years prices.
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Don't think so, F, but it hasn't stopped you suggesting that before has it? Much more constructive was the post from Knell suggesting that if off peak deals could attract enough extra folk to be self financing there'd be no need to boost peak prices the
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I appreciate all of your comments and it is so easy to digress . I think the NWL is a bit of a red herring unless someone comes up with exact figures.
I was only comparing one site of the cc not against other commercial sites. A lot seem to forget that gas electric and fuel for machines, have gone down over the last couple of years. I still think 8% increase is too much taking all factors into account.
Just check your future bookings with cc against last years prices and see what the results are. I think the caravan club should submit some sort of response and all who go to the district and annual meetings should say something on the subject of why the high
increase in prices. My most popular site Whitewater park Stckton- on - Tees is going through a facelift at present and won't reopen until August. I will be looking closely at what the prices will be for August compared with 2015.0 -
We use CC sites in true off peak, ie Winter months. Cheaper than a lot of CLs, but with all the facilities. In Summer we sometimes use no facility CC sites, still good value at £14 per night, all season. Depends what visitors want/need. If it is lots of
extras, peak Summer time, they will have to pay for it, Club or Private. If it is just peace, quiet and a nice view, then it can be obtained at a good price elsewhere. Our limit this year is average of £18 per night. So far we are averaging around £13 per
night. It all depends upon what individuals want or need. More extras are driving up Club prices nowadays, even if they still fall short of what private sites provide.0 -
What no one here knows is if reducing off peak prices would produce enough income to produce a better financial result. Given the level of pricing from some commercial sites I am not convinced as some look so cheap as to be impossible to co pete with.
It is a fact that the clubs sites are different to family run sites and large commercial ones and simply cannot be compared with them. They both work on very different financial models that would not work for the club.
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well it is all relative depending on what people want in my case i Ineed serviced piches these days and what few there are are snapped up pretty quick driving me to use more and more commercial sites usually from the top 100 and I have found that in most
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We were out in South Wales last November and a gorgeous Premier Parks site was recommended to us, £15 for night, and as it was quiet, owner gave us a serviced pitch! We didn't really know what to do with it, but it was a pitch with glorious views and a tap! Lovely place.
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We were out in South Wales last November and a gorgeous Premier Parks site was recommended to us, £15 for night, and as it was quiet, owner gave us a serviced pitch! We didn't really know what to do with it, but it was a pitch with glorious views and a tap!
Lovely place.Which site?
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Apologies, it is called Llwynifan Farm, just West of Swansea. Glorious views, lovely place, nice owners. Not sure of all prices, but for £15, it was a bargain. Cleanest shower rooms we have ever seen, little laundry, brilliant information gazebo that had
lots of books, DVDs, jigsaws, games to lend as well. Grass play are for children, safe dog walking in adjacent fields once details of stock whereabouts have been checked. Not far from Gower Peninsula.0
