Late arrivals at caravan sites
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Hiya Charlie, sorry if I upset you...
There are a few topics on CT that polarise opinion and invite swift and uncompromising response. Sunday departures, late arrivals, early arrivals, sticking to the rules, changing the rules, weekend bookings... All of these are exciting and sometimes contentious subjects for debate. Posting on forums can be nerve wracking; a thick skin and a smiley face go a long way. But latest arrival time is 8pm and long may it remain so 
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Anyway, back to this thread, what are the reasons for having a cut off time for arrivals, what happens on sites without LNAs when you are unavoidably late. Any ideas?
I suppose there has to be a compromise time between wardens' time off and an arrival time to suit those who may be working. Also would there be a demand for a later time? perhaps on Fridays?
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Anyway, back to this thread, what are the reasons for having a cut off time for arrivals, what happens on sites without LNAs when you are unavoidably late. Any ideas?
I suppose there has to be a compromise time between wardens' time off and an arrival time to suit those who may be working. Also would there be a demand for a later time? perhaps on Fridays?
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Write your comments here...Thank you J -- There is too much hijacking of threads by the usual suspects.
Totally unnecessary and disrespectful to the OP
K
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Anyway, back to this thread, what are the reasons for having a cut off time for arrivals, what happens on sites without LNAs when you are unavoidably late. Any ideas?
You would need to ring the site when you realised this and see what the wardens said. Basically on those sites you need to allow a good safety margin.
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Anyway, back to this thread, what are the reasons for having a cut off time for arrivals, what happens on sites without LNAs when you are unavoidably late. Any ideas?
You would need to ring the site when you realised this and see what the wardens said. Basically on those sites you need to allow a good safety margin.
that's precisely what I'd do and suggest. Then it's up to the wardens goodwill, understanding and discretion. It's great isn't it, couldn't ask for more!
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With many sites it is arrive before 8pm. I understand that a number of sites are doing away with LNA so if you are unsure that you will arrive before 8pm then check if LNA is available otherwise you will be sent on your way to find alternative parking for
the night elsewhere. The reason for this is, I believe, because LNA has been abused. ie Arriving overnight in the hope they can get on site early the next day. It was for LNA not early arrivals. The answer is, if you aren't going to get to site before 8pm
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I've only been caravanning since the early '70's and we never had any of this nonsense about 12.00 o'clock arrivals nor departure problems in those days etc etc. There was't any of the constant whinging that goes on and on an on about arrivals and departures
every day every week like today. There was give and take and everything sailed along, no whinging heaven compared to today.0 -
..... The answer is, if you aren't going to get to site before 8pm dont go.
and what about unexpected delays on motorways etc or maybe a breakdown ......
exactly, MM ...and especially if the leg of the journey is a long one and leaving work early might not be an easy option...
if youve booked the night, and arrival is likely to be afer 8pm, then you should be able to stay either at the LNA (if there is one) or in a 'visitors car park' (oh, what a waste of a resource if ever there was one...), book in asap the following morning
and go straight to your pitch....whats difficult about that?i can believe someone would suggest that, if you couldnt arrive by xxx then 'go somewhere else'.....what a way to treat a member and a customer.....
the Morris Leisure site at Ludlow where we stayed last week, had a huge LNA (could take three cans at least) equipped with EHU and water tap and waste disposal, outside the secure barriers....
this says...'we are sorry youre late, we look forward to seeing you in the morning, have a good nights sleep'..
...not 'bu**er off'......
..again, how (and how not) to properly treat customers....
Write your comments here...Agree with that BB. I didn't know Ludlow site belonged to the Morrison Group,was it a good deal pricewise?
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..... The answer is, if you aren't going to get to site before 8pm dont go.
and what about unexpected delays on motorways etc or maybe a breakdown ......
Write your comments here...then you make contingency plans. In particular you should phone the Warden to inform him of your situation so he can assist you. Communication is a marvellous tool.
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With many sites it is arrive before 8pm. I understand that a number of sites are doing away with LNA so if you are unsure that you will arrive before 8pm then check if LNA is available otherwise you will be sent on your way to find alternative parking for the night elsewhere. The reason for this is, I believe, because LNA has been abused. ie Arriving overnight in the hope they can get on site early the next day. It was for LNA not early arrivals. The answer is, if you aren't going to get to site before 8pm dont go.
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Where did you get your information about LNAs being done away with?
How can the system be abused - you can only use the LNA if you've already paid for the night and arrive late (or are you saying that folk are just turning up without a booking and using the LNA anyway - in which case they should be reported and action take by the club)
The last sentence is (IMHO) absurd!
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How can the system be abused - you can only use the LNA if you've already paid for the night and arrive late (or are you saying that folk are just turning up without a booking and using the LNA anyway - in which case they should be reported and action take by the club)
Are you absolutely sure about that Mousley? I don't see the problem as long as the night is paid for in the morning. In the past the Club has said it can be used as such by motorhomes night stopping. I asked the question whether this still applies earlier in the thread but there has been no Club response.
peedee
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How can the system be abused - you can only use the LNA if you've already paid for the night and arrive late (or are you saying that folk are just turning up without a booking and using the LNA anyway - in which case they should be reported and action take
by the club)Are you absolutely sure about that Mousley? I don't see the problem as long as the night is paid for in the morning. In the past the Club has said it can be used as such by motorhomes night stopping. I asked the question whether this still applies earlier
in the thread but there has been no Club response.peedee
Now that is a good idea I disn't know about that....really useful for motorhomes en route and extra revenue for club. It is not often I have seen every LNA pitch used. Would guess it would be hit and miss with regards to vacant space and how to manage it
but certainly a safe haven to sleep if travelling late, being self contained nothing else needed apart from place to park and no noise setting up as sleeping only. Not sure everyone would agree to it though0 -
How can the system be abused - you can only use the LNA if you've already paid for the night and arrive late (or are you saying that folk are just turning up without a booking and using the LNA anyway - in which case they should be reported and action take
by the club)Are you absolutely sure about that Mousley? I don't see the problem as long as the night is paid for in the morning. In the past the Club has said it can be used as such by motorhomes night stopping. I asked the question whether this still applies earlier
in the thread but there has been no Club response.peedee
You might be right about that PD, although I was under the impression that they still had to have booked. What would happen in the, admittedly unlikely, event that all the places were being used?
Still, it explains all those MHers disappearing at 8 in the morning!
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In the past the Club has said it can be used as such by motorhomes night stopping. I asked the question whether this still applies earlier in the thread but there has been no Club response.
peedee
Sorry it wasn't in this thread I asked the question but in another on the same subject >here< A pitch fee wasn't required, you just paid for each occupant in the van. I have even heard that if you didn't hook up the charge was waived. Perhaps this is the origins of the rumours of abuse.
peedee
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"Agree with that BB. I didn't know Ludlow site belonged to the Morrison Group,was it a good deal pricewise?"
Morris Leisure not Morrisons
....but, actually, they were doing a 3 for 2 deal......Write your comments here...Thats what I meant Morris, I must have shopping on the brain yet I hate the job!.
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I can understand the logic of the above posts which express the view that in the absence of a Late Night Arrival area, if one cannot arrive before the Club's 8pm deadline one should "go elsewhere". My problem is in understanding where these posters think
this "elsewhere" is located, especially for a stranger to the area who has experienced a breakdown or delays on a motorway closed for multiple hours due to an accident.Perhaps they expect members to drive around in circles for the next 16 hours, or park on the approach road outside the site, or in a layby somewhere - all of which would attract the attention of the constabulary.
I would like to read some SENSIBLE suggestions here please. as this is a problem that could be encountered by anyone.
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We had a rather bad experience a few years ago. Had booked for an overnight stay at the Minnows, near Tiverton, not a site we know. We were very badly held up on M5 ( police had shut it down while they were searching for a body). I phoned Minnows to let
them know we would be late, but got a rather unsympathetic response, so to be frank, told them to stuff it. We phoned a CL a few miles away, who couldn't have been more helpful. They were more concerned about us, as we had been on the road some eight hours.
It was so lovely we stayed a bit longer and then have used it lots more times. So every cloud has a silver lining, another reason we prefer less rule driven CLs. It was a quarter of the price as well!0 -
We had a rather bad experience a few years ago. Had booked for an overnight stay at the Minnows, near Tiverton, not a site we know. We were very badly held up on M5 ( police had shut it down while they were searching for a body). I phoned Minnows to let
them know we would be late, but got a rather unsympathetic response, so to be frank, told them to stuff it. We phoned a CL a few miles away, who couldn't have been more helpful. They were more concerned about us, as we had been on the road some eight hours.
It was so lovely we stayed a bit longer and then have used it lots more times. So every cloud has a silver lining, another reason we prefer less rule driven CLs. It was a quarter of the price as well!Which CL's that? Would suit us if we head down that way later in the year.
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So, let's have a think about this. You are running very late due to no reason of your own. You, as is only right and polite, have phoned ahead to site and have been directed to just quietly pull on at arrival and use the LNA.
You arrive later to find the LNA has been 'taken' by someone who has 'slipped' in, someone who is not booked on site. Someone who was passing and, as its late, taken it upon themselves thinking its okay to mention this in the morning and pay the dues then.
I guess my point is that for the wardens wherever possible every use of an LNAs should be expected, there should be no surprises, The use of LNAs does need to be managed to avoid any instances like the one above!.
My other thought is, what of our fellow members, what if the legitimate late night arriver is in a trailer tent? No way could you peg a trailer tent out on a car park LNA! What then?
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....and they give loyalty 'points'....one free night for every 10 nights (at full price) taken.....just another scheme to get you back, but with an incentive to do so.....win, win.
this offer is available to anyone at any time AFAIK
These are not free nights, offers like this mean they have added the give away into the nights cost, and it simply puts up the price to people like us who might want an occaisonal stay, but are too far away to be regulars.
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....and they give loyalty 'points'....one free night for every 10 nights (at full price) taken.....just another scheme to get you back, but with an incentive to do so.....win, win.
this offer is available to anyone at any time AFAIK
These are not free nights, offers like this mean they have added the give away into the nights cost, and it simply puts up the price to people like us who might want an occaisonal stay, but are too far away to be regulars.
With ML we have a card which they fill in on every visit, so the points are cumulative, you do not need to stay 10 nights in one go. However, I agree they are covering this in there site costs. Nothing is for nothing,
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