Site Pricing
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I used to strip ours.
Is it not cold in Winter!
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Can we get back to the topic please otherwise posts will have to be removed.
Many thanks.
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I like to understand the rationale behind things but, as is often the case, there appears to be little logic to the Club’s site fee structure. Where the pitches are in scarce supply, I’d expect the pitch to carry the premium more than the people using them.
Indeed, if the Club’s philosophy is to prefer a simple “all inclusive” price, I’m perplexed by the need to apply a per capita fee at all.0 -
As someone else has said I think the pitch fee should include one adult. Additional adults and children should be extra. I also believe pitch pricing should be in operation so an awning pitch should be more expensive than a non awning pitch in the same
way as a service pitch is more expensive than a standard pitch.On holiday last year there was a huge Bischoff & Niesmann MH. The warden had clearly reserved the only pitch it would fit on but they only paid the same price as me!
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I like to understand the rationale behind things but, as is often the case, there appears to be little logic to the Club’s site fee structure. Where the pitches are in scarce supply, I’d expect the pitch to carry the premium more than the people using them. Indeed, if the Club’s philosophy is to prefer a simple “all inclusive” price, I’m perplexed by the need to apply a per capita fee at all.
I suppose their rationale is that they are trying to be as fair as possible to all. Assuming that they would want the same revenue on a per night basis, it would make it particularly hard on those travelling alone, if all the costs were lumped into the pitch fee.
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As someone else has said I think the pitch fee should include one adult. Additional adults and children should be extra. I also believe pitch pricing should be in operation so an awning pitch should be more expensive than a non awning pitch in the same way as a service pitch is more expensive than a standard pitch.
On holiday last year there was a huge Bischoff & Niesmann MH. The warden had clearly reserved the only pitch it would fit on but they only paid the same price as me!
If you just added the adult fee to the pitch fee, that is effectively what happens now, as there will be at least one adult. Or are you suggesting the cost should be more or less than these combined prices?
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As I mentioned earlier in this thread, it is very interesting looking at all the special offers and savers that the Club does provide. Many sites are an all inclusive price for 2 adults, pitch and EHU, and solo tourers can stay on a pitch with Ehu for as
little as £9.10 on some sites! To a certain extent, it isn't the prices that are always the problem, but that some of the members don't always appreciate just what is available! Taking the time to browse the offers could save some a fortune, and perhaps pleasantly
surprise others! Not me though, we love CLs, but I do know what I can get from Club Sites should I need them.
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It is for us as well PD, but lots of locations showing for those who fancy a bargain and chance to explore somewhere new.
We used Wincanton Racecourse as a stop over one Summer. Great little site, we took an economy pitch as happy without hook up, and at the time it was £10.50 per night. There was just so much to see and do in area close by, so we did the same again only stayed
longer the next Summer. Nice to find opportunities like this.0 -
Is it more profitable to be full at £10 per night or half full at £20 per night?
50 pitches full at @ £10 = £500 revenue, and 25 pitches @ £20 = the same. But the costs in the first scenario will be higher, so there will be less profit and,
if the costs per pitch were more than £10, the site would even make a loss.Love your stats, and agree that there would be more profit for the £20 1/2 full site (less usage of electricity, water etc) but can't see where you get this part of your statement. If the site is full at a price greater than £10 then the revenue would be
higher and so the club would gain more income, not less.0 -
Is it more profitable to be full at £10 per night or half full at £20 per night?
50 pitches full at @ £10 = £500 revenue, and 25 pitches @ £20 = the same. But the costs in the first scenario will be higher, so there will be less profit and,
if the costs per pitch were more than £10, the site would even make a loss.Love your stats, and agree that there would be more profit for the £20 1/2 full site (less usage of electricity, water etc) but can't see where you get this part of your statement. If the site is full at a price greater than £10 then the revenue would be
higher and so the club would gain more income, not less.Costs will be part-proportional (direct) and part-overhead (fixed) and we don’t know what the split is. If the overall cost per pitch is £10, my logic was:
50 pitches filled @ £10each yields £500 revenue with £500 costs, so no profit.
25 pitches filled @ £20each also yields £500 revenue but with less than £500 costs because there are half as many pitches incurring the direct proportion of costs (whatever that happens to be).
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It is for us as well PD, but lots of locations showing for those who fancy a bargain and chance to explore somewhere new.
We used Wincanton Racecourse as a stop over one Summer. Great little site, we took an economy pitch as happy without hook up, and at the time it was £10.50 per night. There was just so much to see and do in area close by, so we did the same again only stayed longer the next Summer. Nice to find opportunities like this.
Yes its a great site for visiting the local area which was why I stopped there this year. It wasn't the price which was the attraction, First and foremost I wanted to visit the Fleet Sir Arm Musuem. However, before selecting Wincanton, I did check other sites in the area including CLs. Convenience and price were eventually the deciding factors, not the fact it was a Club site.
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On summer tours espcially Scotland when daylight is probably 18 hrs per day.we look for the least facility sites, ie Brora, Clachan,Altnahara as they do give vaoue for mkney. Once you go for the all singing all dancing then there are better value alternatives,
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On summer tours espcially Scotland when daylight is probably 18 hrs per day.we look for the least facility sites, ie Brora, Clachan,Altnahara as they do give vaoue for mkney.
Once you go for the all singing all dancing then there are better value alternatives,Other opinions are of course available.
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Fisherman, What is frustrating, is that Altnahara is closed this time of year and the weather just now is beautiful. Its the only CC site I have used, even then, only the once, because its shut when I need it most.
...So there is one. wants to use it ?have you asked the club why it cannot be open?
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JVB 66 Have you ever stopped at Altnahara ? It's a Godforsaken place in summertime never mind in the middle of a Scottish winter !
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have stayed once and Kellysdad says he isn't going back. Very nice wardens when we were there but bleak when it is pouring rain with a gale .This year it is £ 14-00 per night. Kellysmum0 -
tAgree everyone to his/her opinion.Just like the last one about Altnahara cant think of a nicer region of the UK. I think there is great deal of difference in the requirements of a perapatetic Campervaner and the Caravaner who likes to stay in the one pace
for an extended period. Between the CC sites and Cls there is something for everyone. The only problem isthe ever increasing (hugely above inflation ) prices we see occurring.0 -
JVB 66 Have you ever stopped at Altnahara ? It's a Godforsaken place in summertime never mind in the middle of a Scottish winter !
We
have stayed once and Kellysdad says he isn't going back. Very nice wardens when we were there but bleak when it is pouring rain with a gale .This year it is £ 14-00 per night. Kellysmum...just answering a post
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Fisherman, What is frustrating, is that Altnahara is closed this time of year and the weather just now is beautiful. Its the only CC site I have used, even then, only the once, because its shut when I need it most.
...So there is one. wants to use it ?have you asked the club why it cannot be open?
Write your comments here...No, but I can guess why. Anyway, Altnahara open or not, as I take on my new CC none-member status, its of little or no relevance to me now.
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Is it more profitable to be full at £10 per night or half full at £20 per night?
50 pitches full at @ £10 = £500 revenue, and 25 pitches @ £20 = the same. But the costs in the first scenario will be higher, so there will be less profit and,
if the costs per pitch were more than £10, the site would even make a loss.Love your stats, and agree that there would be more profit for the £20 1/2 full site (less usage of electricity, water etc) but can't see where you get this part of your statement. If the site is full at a price greater than £10 then the revenue would be
higher and so the club would gain more income, not less.Costs will be part-proportional (direct) and part-overhead (fixed) and we don’t know what the split is. If the overall cost per pitch is £10, my logic was:
50 pitches filled @ £10each yields £500 revenue with £500 costs, so no profit.
25 pitches filled @ £20each also yields £500 revenue but with less than £500 costs because there are half as many pitches incurring the direct proportion of costs (whatever that happens to be).
I understand that completely. What I didn't undrstand was when you said the part sentense I highlighted, where it seemed to infer that should the £10 pitches be dearer, with the same occupancy the club would get a lower income.
Just reread your post and can now see where your coming from.... the second "cost" in the sentence refers to the perceived total cost of running the pitch where as the first "cost" refers to actual cost or running the site. I took it as the price paid by
the members to use that pitch. Hope this make sense and sorry about questioning your figures.
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Just keep it all simple, charge per head per night,say £15.0
super pitch £17.0
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Just keep it all simple, charge per head per night,say £15.0
super pitch £17.0
Write your comments here...Disagree -------- Keeping it simple is :- £5 pitch fee and £5 per person per night midweek Monday to Thursday nights. -- with £10 pitch fee and £10 per person at weekends.
I know those of us who go away for weeks on end will have to pay both those rates but in the long run it will balance it'self out and the CC will be making income from otherwise unused pitches.
K
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Just keep it all simple, charge per head per night,say £15.0
super pitch £17.0
Write your comments here...Disagree -------- Keeping it simple is :- £5 pitch fee and £5 per person per night midweek Monday to Thursday nights. -- with £10 pitch fee and £10 per person at weekends.
K
Agree midweek prices could be reduced, especially for last minute bookings, but that suggestion would make it mighty expensive for families who could only go weekends, unless they do "kids go free".
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