2016 Site Fees and Site Renovations
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has fully serviced hard standing for £18 per night, no fees for pitch per adult per child, with access to leisure facilities on sister site. The nearest CC site is £34 per night, for a non serviced pitch,
if you can get a booking.that's the interesting thing isn't it, even though it was far more expensive it is difficult to get a pitch on club sites. I know this is at peak times but why didn't all the people on the more expensive club site go to the cheaper and
better sounding other site?The CC site is not open over the winter. Since opening just before Easter, weekends are booked full.
Maybe people haven't looked beyond the CC site and the immediate area. A lot of reviews are returning visitors for weekends.
We popped in the weekend it opened this year, to understand what the appeal was. We also visited 6 other sites, all very similar in location, access, layout, facilities. All similar £34ish pitch fees.
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has fully serviced hard standing for £18 per night, no fees for pitch per adult per child, with access to leisure facilities on sister site. The nearest CC site is £34 per night, for a non serviced pitch,
if you can get a booking.that's the interesting thing isn't it, even though it was far more expensive it is difficult to get a pitch on club sites. I know this is at peak times but why didn't all the people on the more expensive club site go to the cheaper and
better sounding other site?The CC site is not open over the winter. Since opening just before Easter, weekends are booked full.
Maybe people haven't looked beyond the CC site and the immediate area. A lot of reviews are returning visitors for weekends.
We popped in the weekend it opened this year, to understand what the appeal was. We also visited 6 other sites, all very similar in location, access, layout, facilities. All similar £34ish pitch fees.
thanks for the reply, interesting about the prices being more or less the same
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has fully serviced hard standing for £18 per night, no fees for pitch per adult per child, with access to leisure facilities on sister site. The nearest CC site is £34 per night, for a non serviced pitch,
if you can get a booking.that's the interesting thing isn't it, even though it was far more expensive it is difficult to get a pitch on club sites. I know this is at peak times but why didn't all the people on the more expensive club site go to the cheaper and
better sounding other site?Either they are programmed into believing to get value from the membership fee they need to use club sites.
Or they are snobs who think using club sites makes them better educated and of better class.
While ignoring the insults to all those poeple staying at that site, an interesting, somewhat binary and insiteful viewpoint
It was directed to yourself as I'm sure you know but as usual you like to dry and deflect.
so you were insulting me? oh well if that is what makes you happy go, or what you think this forum is for then go right ahead.
BTW what does like to dry mean?
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Exactly so, BB.
As has been said before, all these commercial organisations seem to 'get it' when it comes to attracting custom to cover the overheads that exist whether the site is full or empty. Even the C&CC seem to be recognising it now and are offering discounts.
Can the CC really be the only ones who have it right? Or are they one of the only ones with a huge cushion of 'membership' fees to shield them from reality?
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Exactly so, BB.
As has been said before, all these commercial organisations seem to 'get it' when it comes to attracting custom to cover the overheads that exist whether the site is full or empty. Even the C&CC seem to be recognising it now and are offering discounts.
Can the CC really be the only ones who have it right? Or are they one of the only ones with a huge cushion of 'membership' fees to shield them from reality?
I think you have answered your own question in another thread, to quote your own words:
I also see that it's fully booked for the next couple of weeks
it's nice when you find an answer to your own question by yourself, we call that experienial learning in the trade
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Yes but we are talking about out of season here......do try to keep up!
no we're not, the next few weeks is not out of season, its off peak perhaps, out of season refers to when the season has closed/ended, google it. it means not avaiable. the next few weeks are most certainly available as most sites are open.
You can't wriggle out of what you posted
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It should be off peak again from next week. The last of the school holidays finish at the end of this week as far as I know.
Unless there's a new system whereby out of season is only when sites are shut
Edit - cross posted with corners
it's what we do best educate people
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I'm firmly in the "Use the Leisure industry standard model" camp.
If the CC have their sites open and staffed, then surely it is prudent to attract customers during the periods that the sites would otherwise be virtually empty. This involves a heavy discount during off-peak, and during midweek. This does not need to impact on peak or bank holiday or weekend prices, they can stay at the normal price.
Where some posters are being confused is because they cannot bear to think that somebody else is able to benefit from caravanning during those off peak periods. In fact they would rather the CC lost money by making off-peak prices uncompetitive. Selfishness springs immediately to mind.
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Out of interest I've just run a booking through Haven, Dorset (via the CC offer.) For two adults on a grass pitch plus two dogs (Haven charge £1 for dogs, allowing two only) the cost for two nights on 23/3 is £37 +, for re-inforced grass it's £41. No hardstandings available. Hillhead is a similar price. The one night free offer for Haven brings things this down but is a one off voucher, a good offer if you like Haven sites.
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The thing is, for those who support the CC in maintaining high prices out of season (and yes, bizarrely it appears from this thread that there are those that do so!)......the financial realities are that, if the CC don't wake up to the real world, they will be forced to close more and more sites outside of peak periods......and even close / sell off site alltogether (we are already seeing their ham-fisted attempts at this).
Think on......this is what you are supporting by finding no fault with the old-fashioned out-of-touch ways that the CC operates.
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Following on from BB's post above......we booked a week in Devon on a commercial site.....extra large, fully serviced pitch with a view of the sea, ability to book a specific pitch.....for £105.
We then received an email from them saying that they hadn't given us the full on-line discount and credited another £10 to our credit card within the hour.
That is the difference!
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We are off to Haven Greenacres Porthmadog shortly for 2 weeks hard standing full service pitch inc all facilities swimming pool clubhouse all the usual services. £184.50 using the caravan club discount. Now that is a good price. New Forest Centennary Site in May £330.00 2 weeks only on a hard standing.
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The thing is, for those who support the CC in maintaining high prices out of season (and yes, bizarrely it appears from this thread that there are those that do so!)......the financial realities are that, if the CC don't wake up to the real world, they will
be forced to close more and more sites outside of peak periods......and even close / sell off site alltogether (we are already seeing their ham-fisted attempts at this).Think on......this is what you are supporting by finding no fault with the old-fashioned out-of-touch ways that the CC operates.
but that doesn't explain your findings and your post that a club site is fully booked over the next few weeks which is definetly
off peak? Also the number of club sites open all year has been growing, the only ones that close down are the one with grass pitches0 -
why because I'm quoting facts? as opposed to your suposition?. The number of club sites staying open all year has increased - fact, Ferry Meadows is fully booked in off peak - fact (yours actually), the club annual accounts look very good - fact. I am the sort that bases his views on facts not fiction or imagination
oh and how sites have been sold off?
How do you claim to know the financial realities of running a vast network of club sites? I don't but I know a few chaps and chapetts who do it very well indeed - the club
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Following on from BB's post above......we booked a week in Devon on a commercial site.....extra large, fully serviced pitch with a view of the sea, ability to book a specific pitch.....for £105.
We then received an email from them saying that they hadn't given us the full on-line discount and credited another £10 to our credit card within the hour.
That is the difference!
Write your comments here...So you have to pay in full up front?
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interesting....i went to the office when we arrived at lunchtime to organise our move to a Euro pitch....yes, no problem, got on the pitch and went back later to pay the £3.99(!) i thought i owed....oh no, says the lovely lady, theres no charge for you moving.....
so, got our pals a free upgrade too.....
brue, your date quoted was 23/3....do you mean May?
if so, i expect prices to rise a little....
edit: perran sands, 2 nights, 23/5 ehu pitch £20.
edit2: seaview dorset, same dates Euro HS pitch £22....just a quick browse of booking website, no cc offer used.....
littlesea £24.....
if interested, id ring office for best deals....
...Apologies the quote was for this month...23/4, Littlesea, won't be going, prefer smaller sites. (But very handy for Portland and Weymouth.)
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if cc lowered off peak prices then off peak tourers would look harder at them and youd get more vans on site. the infrastructure is running, the costs are already accrued, it needs bums on seats, not empty sites.
We wpuld certainly be one of those. We do like CLs but occassionally choise a CC site duting the quiet off season periods, unless of course there's no rally on the site!
it does make you wonder why CC are giving away two free nights on competitors sites and also a further discount...?
Can't understand this, unless the competitors pay the club a sum greater than the discount, just to get members into their system.
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Following on from BB's post above......we booked a week in Devon on a commercial site.....extra large, fully serviced pitch with a view of the sea, ability to book a specific pitch.....for £105.
We then received an email from them saying that they hadn't given us the full on-line discount and credited another £10 to our credit card within the hour.
That is the difference!
Write your comments here...So you have to pay in full up front?
Do you not pay in full up front when you check in at a Club site? of course you do the only difference is how long in advance.
I think there is quite a difference in paying on arrival and paying in advance in full, we're talking
only a £100 here, but a summer holiday could cost far more, into the hundreds. Perhaps this (paying in full) was a condition of booking for such a price Also what happens if you have to cancel? and in what timeframe? how much would you get back? if
any? Ian hasn't provided us with any of that information. An approach like this would make you have to take out insurance for any substantial amounts/stays away, further adding to the cost of anytrips away. While travel insurance is the norm for travel to
other lands would one like to have to do it for home travel?0 -
Following on from BB's post above......we booked a week in Devon on a commercial site.....extra large, fully serviced pitch with a view of the sea, ability to book a specific pitch.....for £105.
We then received an email from them saying that they hadn't given us the full on-line discount and credited another £10 to our credit card within the hour.
That is the difference!
Write your comments here...So you have to pay in full up front?
Do you not pay in full up front when you check in at a Club site? of course you do the only difference is how long in advance.
I think there is quite a difference in paying on arrival and paying in advance in full, we're talking
only a £100 here, but a summer holiday could cost far more, into the hundreds. Perhaps this (paying in full) was a condition of booking for such a price Also what happens if you have to cancel? and in what timeframe? how much would you get back? if
any? Ian hasn't provided us with any of that information. An approach like this would make you have to take out insurance for any substantial amounts/stays away, further adding to the cost of anytrips away. While travel insurance is the norm for travel to
other lands would one like to have to do it for home travel?The more usual practice is a small deposit, often fully refundable in a given time period in case of cancellation. Full payment can be on check in, or as far out as 7 weeks. Depends on terms and conditions.
Travel insurance to cover this is often a small extra to the fees, or can often be part of a credit card or bank account package.
Dependant on what method of payment ie credit card with 57 days 'credit' you may not incur advance payment.
In our case we can't book holidays in advance as we don't know where I will be working at any given time. Often I go 6-9 months without a holiday or weekend away. Conversely could be away several weekends on the trot, as over the early winter.
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Following on from BB's post above......we booked a week in Devon on a commercial site.....extra large, fully serviced pitch with a view of the sea, ability to book a specific pitch.....for £105.
We then received an email from them saying that they hadn't given us the full on-line discount and credited another £10 to our credit card within the hour.
That is the difference!
Write your comments here...So you have to pay in full up front?
Do you not pay in full up front when you check in at a Club site? of course you do the only difference is how long in advance.
I think there is quite a difference in paying on arrival and paying in advance in full, we're talking
only a £100 here, but a summer holiday could cost far more, into the hundreds. Perhaps this (paying in full) was a condition of booking for such a price Also what happens if you have to cancel? and in what timeframe? how much would you get back? if
any? Ian hasn't provided us with any of that information. An approach like this would make you have to take out insurance for any substantial amounts/stays away, further adding to the cost of anytrips away. While travel insurance is the norm for travel to
other lands would one like to have to do it for home travel?The more usual practice is a small deposit, often fully refundable in a given time period in case of cancellation. Full payment can be on check in, or as far out as 7 weeks. Depends on terms and conditions.
Travel insurance to cover this is often a small extra to the fees, or can often be part of a credit card or bank account package.
Dependant on what method of payment ie credit card with 57 days 'credit' you may not incur advance payment.
In our case we can't book holidays in advance as we don't know where I will be working at any given time. Often I go 6-9 months without a holiday or weekend away. Conversely could be away several weekends on the trot, as over the early winter.
thanks for the reply, when the club had deposits it was £5 per booking, but at that time a night's booking fee for a couple was £5, would people now be happy with paying a night's fee as a deposit?
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