2016 Site Fees and Site Renovations
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Not sure I see the logic there when Slinfold was a £12.50 site run by volunteers and is now £14 - £1.50 pitch raise yet no wages to pay? OR does the new government rules mean you are having to pay volunteers?
They probably claim expenses which used to be pretty generous.
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.The reply refers to other increased costs including utilities so these may be relevant here. It does look like the comment has been made without reading the post fully.
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Not sure I see the logic there when Slinfold was a £12.50 site run by volunteers and is now £14 - £1.50 pitch raise yet no wages to pay? OR does the new government rules mean you are having to pay volunteers?
They probably claim expenses which used to be pretty generous.
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.The reply refers to other increased costs including utilities so these may be relevant here. It does look like the comment has been made without reading the post fully.
Most utility costs are falling or should be along with fuel/ energy costs. The only thing which may be increasing at these sites is local charges?
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I shall just vote with my wheels.
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.The reply refers to other increased costs including utilities so these may be relevant here. It does look like the comment has been made without reading the post fully.
Most utility costs are falling or should be along with fuel/ energy costs. The only thing which may be increasing at these sites is local charges?
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Yes, even commercial rates for utilities have fallen, OH recently did a new contract for our local Guide Hall and both gas and electricity were sightly cheaper than 3 years back.
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I've found that fuel is a lot cheaper than it used to be. It used to cost me over £80 to fill up with diesel. Now it's around £70 to fill up. Much better!
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I know this might be controversial how about not putting up site fees and increasing the kids for a quid to 2 quid after all this has been pegged for the last few years!
I personally would not agree with this. (we do not holiday with any kids) It only seems to apply at a very few sites, and most with kids are forced into holidaying at the most expensive times of the year in any event. To increase the burden further just seems unfair.
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Caravan Club site increases huge this year up £7.60/ night over 2015 prices for our booking. We find it costs about the same for a month on the Med out of season using acsi as club site on the south coast, even after factoring in fuel, ferry and Ped Pennant
and we get free WIFI and fully serviced private hedged pitch0 -
As has been said before, comparisons with over the water are not really valid. When compared with the commercial alternatives in the UK , the CC is generally better value in the high season. This being achieved by not offering lost leader deals in the off peak. Incidentally WiFi is never provided free, it is inclusive.
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I find shopping at our local Sainsburys is much more expensive than going to Morrison's just up the road. But I still do it, just so I have something to moan about on Sainsburys forum!!
post of the day award!
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Loss leaders have nothing to do with it. Out of season offers is a way of maximising income where otherwise there might be less.
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I think the point was, CY, that, yes these special deals off season (loss leaders if you like) do result in income which otherwise wouldn't be gained. But they exist because they are subsidised by sky high prices at the likes of Haven and SB during the peak
season. Club prices also increase at peak but not by anything like the same degree. Some of us think this is rather fairer.
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OK then. If Sandy Balls/Haven didn't do low season deals, why would they change their high season prices? They may, in fact, be even higher to recoup lost income.
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Not sure I follow your reasoning there CY, which is unusual because you're usually very clear. Who knows what Haven/SB would do if they didn't offer those deals, it's all hypothetical. What is fact is that they do offer them ( and good luck to those who
take them up, they're undoubtedly very good value if you can take advantage of them) but that they also whack up their prices sky high in peak. On balance, I just think that the club price structure, for all its faults, is fairer.0 -
As has been said before, comparisons with over the water are not really valid. When compared with the commercial alternatives in the UK , the CC is generally better value in the high season. This being achieved by not offering lost leader
deals in the off peak. Incidentally WiFi is never provided free, it is inclusive.That has been said before, but it was wrong then also.
Comparisons with other sites is always valid, especially when they appear to offer more for less money.
Or of course, they can just be ignored and pretend that it doesn't happen - rather like the CC do.
(I have this picture of the CC management, when someone tries to point out a better way of doing things, sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting "blah!, blah! blah!" to drown it all out
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ISTM that Sandy Balls/Haven charge mega bucks because they can. They also recognise that they won't get punters in at those prices in low season and therefore offer deals to offset overheads. It ain't rocket science.
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Off peak, Sunday to Thursday nights, many club sites have very low occupancy, but the wardens are still there and have to be paid. Would it not be better for the site to make some income from discounted prices than to be almost empty?
This does not mean that peak period prices need to rise.
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OK, going with this, remember it doesn't affect me yet, but its affects you lucky chaps, how much of a reduction would get you to go? if a site is currently say £25 per night per couple what would you like to see it come down to? If you halved it and got
double the occupancy that wouldn't change things?0 -
Off peak, Sunday to Thursday nights, many club sites have very low occupancy, but the wardens are still there and have to be paid. Would it not be better for the site to make some income from discounted prices than to be almost empty?
This does not mean that peak period prices need to rise.
Well, yes, that would be a perfect scenario, kjell. And if it's possible then we ought to press the club to do it. The point I've tried to make all along is that cheap deals off peak
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If the discounted pitch fee covers the costs of someone staying on the pitch then why not offer discounts? By that I mean the electricity primarily.
Based on some of the information posted by people here I wouldn't think £10-12 per night would cover electricity costs.
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OK, going with this, remember it doesn't affect me yet, but its affects you lucky chaps, how much of a reduction would get you to go? if a site is currently say £25 per night per couple what would you like to see it come down to? If you halved it and got
double the occupancy that wouldn't change things?If it was halved it still wouldnt attract us as we can get that price plus sunshine in that place we cant mention
au contraire
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Ok would that sort of discount attract more people to visit?
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Cyber, what does ISTM stand for..... I'm not too proud to ask
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If the discounted pitch fee covers the costs of someone staying on the pitch then why not offer discounts? By that I mean the electricity primarily.
Based on some of the information posted by people here I wouldn't think £10-12 per night would cover electricity costs.
What? We're not all Malcolms you know!
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