2016 Site Fees and Site Renovations
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We are going to be taking a short break at a Club Site where our average night fee will be £14.50. Has full facilities, HS, EHU, so great value for time of year. Did it last year as well for even less. There are Club bargains if you search them out, especially
this time of year. Wouldn't think of using same site outside of off peak period though.0 -
We are going to be taking a short break at a Club Site where our average night fee will be £14.50. Has full facilities, HS, EHU, so great value for time of year. Did it last year as well for even less. There are Club bargains if you search them out, especially
this time of year. Wouldn't think of using same site outside of off peak period though.We did the same in November full blown site £14 a night we had just left a CL having paid the same no facilities other than EHU, not complaining about CL by the way, but it does show you there are sites out there that don't cost £20 pn.
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We are going to be taking a short break at a Club Site where our average night fee will be £14.50. Has full facilities, HS, EHU, so great value for time of year. Did it last year as well for even less. There are Club bargains if you search them out, especially
this time of year. Wouldn't think of using same site outside of off peak period though.We did the same in November full blown site £14 a night we had just left a CL having paid the same no facilities other than EHU, not complaining about CL by the way, but it does show you there are sites out there that don't cost £20 pn.
Some of the Club Sites are great value in the Winter months, and very pleasant from our point of view as there are so few folks about. Our one regret is that a few of the no facility sites, such as Much Wenlock, Bromyard Downs aren't available, but there
probably isn't the usage to justify keeping them open for a very few visitors. I think in Summer months, some of these sites are even cheaper for solo travellers.0 -
Yes, I was right. Solo travellers can stay at some Club Sites for as little as £9.10, which makes them more competitive than many CLs. Haven't checked out what facilities sites have, but great value.
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of course the CC model takes account of folk using electric during the winter......it has an average rate which it applies across the year....
to suggest the club couldnt take a few more paying customers as they would use too much electric is strange indeed.
a customer paying £6 and using £5 worth of electric and services is £1 better than having an empty pitch, isnt it?
perhaps the club would prefer it if no one camped from October to March as they might be using more power than the 'average'.....
if the club charged for what was used then it wouldnt be an issue......at any time of the year and for any number of customers.
Clearly your figures show a positive out come ( I assume you have just used a £1 as an example) however, whatever that positive outcome it has to cover the running of the site, otherwise it may as well close for the winter. OK the club can afford to run
a few sites at very reasonable rates as takethedogalong as indicated but overall it needs to make a profit. Having a full site if the price you have to charge means you are making a loss just isn't sensible.0 -
Steve, I understand you point regarding setting a price that exceeds a break even point but surely you must accept that 4 units/night mid week is simply bad business practice. ISTM that the Club is very slow to respond to a situation and lower prices to
generate customConversely, they appear to have been very quick to keep Beeechwood Grange open and presumably to jump on the increased price bandwagon
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SL, I doubt if any of the Club's Sites make a profit over the Winter, with or without facilities. But therein lies one of the values that the Club provides for its members. It recognises that quite a few of them enjoy all year round touring, especially at
weekends, and provides options in different regions, at very reasonable rates.0 -
Steve, I understand you point regarding setting a price that exceeds a break even point but surely you must accept that 4 units/night mid week is simply bad business practice. ISTM that the Club is very slow to respond to a situation and lower prices to
generate customConversely, they appear to have been very quick to keep Beeechwood Grange open and presumably to jump on the increased price bandwagon
Write your comments here...you have to apply an average for the pitch across the year. Hence much higher fees in Summer, when Sites are in greater demand, much lower in Winter to try and tempt members out. Some wouldnt be tempted out if a pitch was free,
let alone low priced, but that is their choice. Some members win, some lose, it all depends on what you want from the Club, and if it's pricing policy suits. If it doesn't, and you have no other reason for being a member, then Perhaps not wise wasting money
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Agree with that! I do think they could be a touch more adventurous with Special Offers, which might tempt a few more out, and for the likes of us who shop around to keep our overall pitch fee average low, keep us using Club Sites a bit longer. But the sites
are very busy in the Summer months, even at the high prices, with families and those who prefer to be on Club Sites rather than chance something unknown for their main holiday break.In some respects, it is more difficult for the Club to offer too much, as the scale of business is so much greater than say a responsive single, two or three site private business. It could be a whole different ball game if each site had an individual Manager,
empowered to get creative on the Marketing front, but it just isn't that type of organisation, and that may not be what the membership likes anyway.0 -
In my view Club sites are getting too expensive ,too many regs too many rules ,people will begin to look elsewhere ,we do not use many club sites now,France much more relaxed.It is a shame they seem to make rules to suit themselves,ie no ironing boards etc,so
as they say you reap what you sow.0 -
We are out all year round, and would certainly use more club sites during the low seasons if they priced them reasonably, ie around the £15 mark, but instead we continue to use CL's where we get a better deal.
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Surely the weather at the moment has to have some barring on the low number of vans on site just know. This time last year we were out and about from Scoltand down to Wiltshire and every site we were on was around 30% or more full during the week and more at the weekends, the weather was cold but nice and dry with sunny days. I'm sure the club takes all this into consideration and will know that weather plays a big part in how some use their vans, should the weather get better (gosh I hope so) then I'm sure that numbers will pick up on the sites that are open.
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We are out all year round, and would certainly use more club sites during the low seasons if they priced them reasonably, ie around the £15 mark, but instead we continue to use CL's where we get a better deal.
Write your comments here...At the moment Gatwick Club site is costing us £14.50 per night for the two of us.
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Many of the comments in this thread prove the point that I was making, which is that sensible pricing will attract people to use sites at quiet times.
If Gatwick can run at £14.50pn then variable costs at Southport must be less.
The cost of electricity arguement isn't relevant. If my maths are correct then you can't pull much more than 3kWh from the supply bollard, so at average costs that's about £7 max in 24 hours, (and hopefully a lot less if the club have negotiated well).
Given that the site is open and all fixed costs, wages etc are already being incurred, then surely it makes sense to take the extra profit (min £7pn) and get more vans on site at this time of year? Particularly as most will stay for 2/3 nights rather than
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Many of the comments in this thread prove the point that I was making, which is that sensible pricing will attract people to use sites at quiet times.
If Gatwick can run at £14.50pn then variable costs at Southport must be less.
The cost of electricity arguement isn't relevant. If my maths are correct then you can't pull much more than 3kWh from the supply bollard, so at average costs that's about £7 max in 24 hours, (and hopefully a lot less if the club have negotiated well).
Given that the site is open and all fixed costs, wages etc are already being incurred, then surely it makes sense to take the extra profit (min £7pn) and get more vans on site at this time of year? Particularly as most will stay for 2/3 nights rather than
one.There is an assumption in your post that they are breaking even at £14.50 a night. If not there will only be so many sites the CC can keep open as a service to members, whilst operating at a loss.
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Many of the comments in this thread prove the point that I was making, which is that sensible pricing will attract people to use sites at quiet times.
If Gatwick can run at £14.50pn then variable costs at Southport must be less.
The cost of electricity arguement isn't relevant. If my maths are correct then you can't pull much more than 3kWh from the supply bollard, so at average costs that's about £7 max in 24 hours, (and hopefully a lot less if the club have negotiated well).
Given that the site is open and all fixed costs, wages etc are already being incurred, then surely it makes sense to take the extra profit (min £7pn) and get more vans on site at this time of year? Particularly as most will stay for 2/3 nights rather than
one.There is an assumption in your post that they are breaking even at £14.50 a night. If not there will only be so many sites the CC can keep open as a service to members, whilst operating at a loss.
Steve, if the sites are already open then surely by attracting more units at a slightly lower price, they will make more profit. The balancing act ( achieved by businesses throughout the UK) is to decide what this price can be
Using your logic , if a CC site in the Summer months is not full ( most likely because the prices are too high) then lowering the prices may cause them to lose money
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exactly Steve.
If you (or one) thinks that club sites are too expensive the answer is simple - don't go.
It will mean more room for the rest of us who still think the club is good value for money
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I think the Caravan Club does cater for tight budgets. There are many sites in the network where you can stay for £12.50 per night during Spring, Summer and Autumn. The difficulty is when these low price sites close in the winter leaving us all with less
choice at that time of year. I believe caravanning should be an all year thing and not just a seasonal activity.0 -
Supply and demand, price should reflect this, popular site's and popular weekends when demand outsrips supply, price should increase, less popular times decrease, most of the sites that I visit reflect this,the more expensive are always packed cheap ones
seem to be empty. CC should take note.0 -
Supply and demand, price should reflect this, popular site's and popular weekends when demand outsrips supply, price should increase, less popular times decrease, most of the sites that I visit reflect this,the more expensive are always packed cheap ones seem to be empty. CC should take note.
Write your comments here...The site we're staying on here at Gatwick is lower cost at £14.50 per night for two people but it's certainly not empty. So the lower cost is obviously attracting other caravanners into using it in the winter.
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So the lower cost is obviously attracting other caravanners into using it in the winter.
It's not rocket science!
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So the lower cost is obviously attracting other caravanners into using it in the winter.
It's not rocket science!
Write your comments here...Exactly but that's not what hooker128 said. It said in the comment that the cheaper sites are always empty which is not true.
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Supply and demand, price should reflect this, popular site's and popular weekends when demand outsrips supply, price should increase, less popular times decrease, most of the sites that I visit reflect this,the more expensive are always packed cheap ones seem to be empty. CC should take note.
...You seem to have answered you own question,do you not think, as thats why some sites are cheaper to try to bring in more "punters",
And as for more sites as Malcolm wants open all year,its been mentioned before that even the with the sites open now, some are,I understand ,being looked at as not viable
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Supply and demand, price should reflect this, popular site's and popular weekends when demand outsrips supply, price should increase, less popular times decrease, most of the sites that I visit reflect this,the more expensive are always packed cheap ones
seem to be empty. CC should take note....You seem to have answered you own question,do you not think, as thats why some sites are cheaper to try to bring in more "punters",
And as for more sites as Malcolm wants open all year,its been mentioned before that even the with the sites open now, some are,I understand ,being looked at as not viable
Write your comments here...Which is a pity!
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Supply and demand, price should reflect this, popular site's and popular weekends when demand outsrips supply, price should increase, less popular times decrease, most of the sites that I visit reflect this,the more expensive are always packed cheap ones
seem to be empty. CC should take note.Not quite sure I follow your logic there. Are you saying the CC should increase its prices at popular sites until folk stop using them?
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