Enclosed pitch’s

Jane n
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edited February 21 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Hi can anybody recommend any sites that have enclosed pitch’s ( fab idea when travelling with multiple dogs) thank you ☺️ 

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  • JillwithaJay
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    edited February 22 #2

    I don't think I've ever seen a site with 'enclosed pitches'; just hedges on three sides but open at the front.  Have you got anything in the way of 'wire mesh dog fencing' or windbreaks that would work?  The picture shows a Jormax set up which, I should add, is not mine as we don't have dogs.


  • Bakers2
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    edited February 21 #3

    A fully enclosed pitch wouldn't allow access/exit 😉.

    We saw one of these in use on a club site, they were asked to remove it. I believe dogs should be tethered or on a lead on site. Just incase...

  • Wherenext
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    edited February 21 #5

    I can't think of a single site, home or abroad, club or non Club, that I've seen a fully enclosed pitch. I've been on pitches in France with hedges on 3 and a half sides but that's the nearest to them.

    They would be fire hazards.

    If that's your criteria then I think I wold stick to cottage rentals

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited February 22 #6

    We've seen lots of people on club sites with 'dog enclosures' on their pitches, such as the Jormax one that JWJ suggested.  We've never heard of anyone being asked to remove them.  Maybe it depends upon the individual wardens? 

    We don't have "multiple dogs" but can well imagine that they'd end up like a bowl of spaghetti if tethered on the pitch!

  • JollyKernow
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    edited February 22 #7

    Dog enclosures aren't a problem on our sites as long as the fire separation to the next pitch is adhered to. Saying that, even with that type of enclosure the dogs should still be tethered while inside it. An untethered dog is an out of control dog no matter how cute and cuddly and friendly they may be. I've been bitten a few times while doing this job even by an escaped dog from an enclosure. 

    JK

  • GTP
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    edited February 23 #8

    JK....Similar but not bitten....happened to me at Southport a couple of years ago. (I believe I posted then about the problem)... 3 Dogs in an enclosed wire fencing...off lead. 2 dogs jumped over fence and continued to do 'their leg up' on a couple of A frame covers...including mine..When spoke with owner of dogs I just received a load of abuse and some very threatening behaviour . I quite understood why the SM did not wish to intervene..

    Also recently (Mid Jan) at Castleton...Motorhome pulls up on pitch next to us, erects wire enclosed fence, right up to the grass separation between us) and lets a couple of dogs, off lead run around...and more worryingly do all their business on the pitch. Again, unfortunately for what ever reason, the SM's declined to intervene...

    I can only see more and more of these fences being erected as no one from the club is addressing the issue...."Once you start the hare running"..

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 23 #9

    There’s a very real general issue at the moment around certain people who have taken on dog ownership, and this extends into taking them away on holiday. We have holidayed with two, three dogs most of our lives, never needed to enclose them, never leave them tied up outside unattended, never had any complaints about their behaviour. 

    Our favourite Cornish CL, (sadly no longer open) used to have two practically enclosed pitches. The only open bit was just wide enough to drive through and pitch up, huge pitches, you could swing right round with our little van on, pitch however you liked. Cornish hedge walls, fabulous in Spring Summer with wildflowers. JK, you might recall the name if you looked after Marazion? Farm up the lane called Kestal? 

  • mickysf
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    edited February 23 #10

    Similar experiences, I’ve been bitten by a stranger’s dog off a lead, the owner preferred to call it a friendly nip. On annother occasion our dog,  on a lead,  was viciously attacked and bitten by an again untethered dog. He needed vet attention, the owner paid the bills and was mortified, they didn’t believe their friendly dog was capable of the likes. Neither of the above on a site.

    However, we had a neighbour arrive on site and erect a dog compound which included the pitch and much of the grass finger between us and them. Just two dogs but all that dogs do was done inside that compound. Wouldn’t wish for a young family to occupy it after this.

    i will add that most dog owners we have met are understanding, competent and socially aware.

  • Arch
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    edited February 23 #11

    For the life of me I cannot understand why the club allows these enclosures I've never seen the dogs on a lead in them they run loose doing their business the owners give no thought to their neighbours or the next occupants of the pitch, the club should put an end to this practice now, I'm seeing increasing numbers of these enclosures on sites and avoid pitching next one.

  • vbfg
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    edited February 23 #12

    It isn't just dogs in enclosures that relieve themselves on pitches as I have seen quite a number of dog owners often with the dog/s on an extended lead, let their dogs foul grass areas and pitches, sometimes occupied pitches, often early in the  morning when they think no-one is up!  I am a dog owner and never let my dog/s foul on the grass or on the ptiches and it infuriates me when others do, as all dog owners are then assumed to do so.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited February 23 #13

     My only gripe and not much to do with the op sorry! Flexi leads of any sort. They were invented to aid in recall training, if only people on the end of that mile long rope understood thatyell, but let's not let this thread descend into an anti dog rantwink

    JK

     

  • Amesford
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    edited February 23 #14

    The magic words told to me by a warden was  "As long as its inside your pitching area and not a trip hazard" thus you also comply with fire regulations

  • GTP
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    edited February 23 #15

    JK..Agree, no anti dog rant. I was simply replying to your post with my own personal experience.

    Aside....I have been, in the past, quite vocal on CT regarding dogs on Site.. but just to be clear (as they say)..I have in the past, owned several dogs , not at the same time, and two Grey Hunter geldings. I and OH did not belong to any hunt but were fortunate to have woodlands close by where we enjoyed our riding with the dogs..

  • Hja
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    edited February 23 #16

    One of the reasons why we don’t use CAMC sites. I am not a dog lover. I do not believe I should be bothered by peoples’ dogs and that includes not having them urinate or worse on my pitch. I believe in Spain if your dog urinates you are supposed to spray disinfectant on it. Wish that happened here. I really can’t see why people can’t stick to the rules of having dogs on a short lead at ALL times.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 23 #17

    As ever, JK, it’s irresponsible people who cause the problems but, yes, let's not see this thread go the way of so many others 🙁

  • moulesy
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    edited February 23 #18

    Jane, the OP, asked a genuine question which, it seemed to me, indicated that she wanted to avoid her dogs impinging on neighbouring pitches. There was no indication that the dogs would be left loose , unattended or allowed to defecate or urinate on the pitch. It's such a shame that the thread has deteriorated into the predictable negative comments.

  • Arch
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    edited February 23 #19

    The OP was asking about enclosed pitches the following reply suggested using an enclosure common sense questions the need for either if the dog/dogs are on a lead as required by club rules, this is not a negative reply and I cannot see any of the others were.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 23 #20

    I think you are right, Arch but we have to be careful. It would only be right to recognise all aspects and opinions when discussing the poster’s questions. Yes, there are negatives and positives but mostly these are to do with owners behaviours and not their pets. Statistically the most dangerous animal in the UK today is the domesticated dog, that’s now a well documented fact. It used to be cattle! The club is right to assist all in their enjoyment of our shared pastime and they need to recognise all viewpoints.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 23 #21

    Jane, the only club site which comes to mind is Melrose, Gibson Park which has just a very few pitches at the rear of the site bordered on 3 sides by hedges and a high bank. Another is an independent site at Polstead, Suffolk (formerly a C&CC franchised site) which has a few pitches bordered by hedges on 3 sides. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 23 #22

    I thought the OP was asking about pitches that, once the caravan had been sited, had a fence all the way round the pitch and I assume where dogs can roam without restraint? I have seen such sites advertised but the number is very small and mainly in France, usually British owned! 

    David

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited February 24 #23

    Not a club site, but Eye Kettleby Lakes near Melton Mowbray may be worth a look.  The Northern Close superior extended pitches are very large and hedged on three sides. It's several years since we were last there, but I do seem to remember some people 'blocking' the entrance to their pitches with long inflatable windbreaks.  Of course you'd need to check with the site first to ask if that would be acceptable and whether dogs would still need to be tethered on the pitch.

  • joanie
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    edited March 2 #24

    Hillhead in Devon has some enclosed pitches.

    Many people use CMC as they have dogs or multiple dogs as the OP stated. IMO it doesn't matter what dogs you have , they should be under control and taken out to go to the toilet. I cannot abide dogs who run about all over the place  and are a complete nuisance. The owner should be approached by the warden and warned that their behaviour is upsetting other campers.  I'm sure if it were teenagers running amock something would be said.  

     

     

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2 #25

    In all honesty I cannot recall in my 34+ years of being a member seeing "dogs who run all over the place etc" as posted by Joannie. The odd dog that has slipped their leash. You must be extremely unlucky J.

    I can recount numerous times showing both sides of the coin with dog owners but my overall impression is one of responsible dog owners. As I've posted on another thread it is usually the minority that spoil it for the majority and dog owners are no different.

  • joanie
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    edited March 2 #26

     just to clarify my post,  dogs , meaning more than one and in all my years of caravanning, there has been more than one dog  running around the site . As I have always had 2 or 3 dogs at a time,   a dog on the loose will approach my dogs and they are a complete nuisance . 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2 #27

    To quote JK:   “….let's not let this thread descend into an anti dog rant"

  • Rob2CathDavies
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    edited March 2 #28

    There used to be a rule that you couldn’t erect a dog enclosure due to contamination of the area by dog deposits. That rule seems to have disappeared.  However, on reading the current leaflet about dogs, that site managers can give to members, it states that dogs must be on leads of 2m or less at all times on site unless on dog walks or dog areas.  Therefore, even in an enclosure.

    I once suggested to the Club that dog owners should have to read and sign that leaflet on their first visit to a Club site each year.  Then produce their signed copy when they book in at further sites in the year.

    But with automated check-ins being the way forward the opportunity for site managers to provide leaflets about dogs on site is disappearing.