C&CC to Close Their Forum
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Surely if you don’t like a particular discussion just ignore it. I have found this forum to be more informative/useful than negative. Yes there are of course spats from time to time but they are not really that frequent in comparison to the number of posts. I don’t usually follow threads like What have you seen or Where are you etc which I would have thought would have garnered more postings. I tend to follow the more technical threads where it is true there are perhaps some very strong views and also, at times, a bit too much navel gazing. But that’s forums for you.
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Posts are removed because they breach CT guidelines and/or are off topic, it really is that simple. Posts are not removed for being critical of the club unless staff are named or labeled in some (usually) negative way
Additionally if a post is reported and then removed there there must have been some breach, reporting or objecting to a phrase does not automatically lead to its removal, only if it breaches guidelines. In my view it is not for posters to judge what is acceptable, mundane, or what is to be reported and what is not, that's the job of of CM.
Off topic so apologies.
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Totally agree WTG. I think most folks try to post in a helpful, informative way, and I also agree that it shouldn’t be construed as negativity all the time if someone chooses to express informed dissatisfaction with certain things the Club chooses to do. Any business needs constructive criticism, otherwise it won’t change positively.
Personal barbs directed at easily identified site staff or CL owners aren’t helpful, nor are petty grievances posted in the review section when someone makes a poorly researched choice of site, but the Club needs feedback of all sorts to improve its services. That’s why the latest booking system/deposit system has seen so many changes and alterations, because users have voiced their concerns.
There are a tiny number of occasional posters who jump at the chance to berate other CT users, wanting “examples” of this that and the other. But they don’t tend to contribute much else of value to CT, which in itself to me is a negative tone.
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The CCC is a bit of an unknown quantity to us. We joined for a year back in the 1990’s at the site in Haltwhistle. We were the only one’s there, as the site was just re opening after flooding, and we needed a pitch. To this day it’s the only CCC Club Site we have used, enjoyed it though.
We rejoined last year, having worked out that their CS network would give us more options, and more choice. Most CS sites have at least a loo and a shower, as they take tents as well. The two we found were happy to give us £5 per night discount if we didn’t hook up to electrics, so we paid £15 per night, in July/Aug, with superb facilities (one certainly rivalled Club Site facility provision). That’s far less than many CLs would charge us, let alone Club Sites, so we more than covered our joining fee. We hope to revisit one of those sites this week if weather allows. CCC Club Site prices don’t attract us, unless we opt for their offers (looking more attractive than this Club’s). We don’t qualify for age related discount.
I did glance at their forum, but it required too much personal info. As for TP, their rating is and always has been poor. They simply don’t respond.
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Thanks for that👍😁 I thought I had read somewhere that you had to have been a Member for so many years, like the NT, to qualify. Will check our Membership out. Some nice looking CCC sites not far from us.
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That’s for veteran membership - half price annual fee if you’ve been a member for 25(?) years.
At 50 years they give you free annual membership, a badge and a certificate. I recently got mine🤣🤣🤣
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Ah, I mixed up veteran with our current status, thought I had read something😁 That’s good news, we do qualify then. Take to the grass pitches mid week and we are laughing👏👏
The power of a decently supported forum has worked well this time👍
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Dry season bargains a plenty at CCC with their cheap grass, no EHU offers... and as WTG mentions the THS network is a real attraction from April to September.
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Yes, we have had those emails YT. Currently looking on website for something around Skipton for a night, and then Harrogate for a night, but I think the snow forecast will make life difficult this coming weekend, in which case it will just be a day out in Jeep.
We will consider grass pitches in Summer though, and possibly a THS.
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For the information of one who believes he has spotted an anomaly, I will explain something. We were not going to renew C&CC this month and cancelled the DD. The next day the free membership arrived. There's nothing odd there at all just a matter of facts and coincidental timing.
My apology for deviating from the topic of the C&CC forum closure.
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A question for those that know how to do these things. The C&CC are suggestion members use other social media like Facebook. Having just had a look at their Facebook page I can't see any way to post other than on the threads started by the Club?
David
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Hja
The only posts I can see are those posted by the C&CC themselves. You can see member comments on those posts but I can find individual member posts. Usually there is an option to see all posts but not found that yet. It just strikes me that if they want to replace the forum with social media they are going to have to allow more two way communication.
Goldie
The CMC Facebook page is slightly better as you can see some member posts but I think the Club hide a lot of posts so as not to overshadow their own use which is mainly for publicity.
David
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The CMC Facebook page is slightly better as you can see some member posts but I think the Club hide a lot of posts so as not to overshadow their own use which is mainly for publicity.
David, couldn't it also be because they are removing any comments that are critical of the Club?
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Nellie
It could well be but if they are trying to persuade members to use Social Media, like Facebook, it needs to be available to members I would have thought? It depends what they want. Do they want to shut any adverse comment down which might be what you are suggesting or do they just want members to post happy-clappy stuff? I do find the C&CC a bit secretive and far less likely to share information compared to the CMC.
David
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It would appear they have silenced their membership🙁
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That never happens, all that does happen is posters move to other more open and tolerant forums which the Clubs cannot control, don't have the time to follow and cannot respond to. My own view it is better to keep it all in house warts and all.
peedee
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I tend to agree with your last sentence. Closing the forum and stifling free expression certainly isn’t going to promote goodwill amongst the membership.
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Like many others, I am sure, I have fired off an email to the C&CC to ask how to use the alternatives they suggest, like Facebook. Whilst I got a reply to my initial email with the usual reasons why the forum is being closed they seem rather coy about how you are meant to interact on Facebook. As I have discovered, also the same experience as many on their forum, the only way you can interact is by replying to the advertising posts the Club make. There is no way of initiating a new discussion. Just seems they are trying to close down any avenue where members can hold the Club to account? I am sure some bright spark will initiate a group on Facebook "Camping and Caravan Club Chat" which they won't have any control over.
David
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All seems a bit strange to me. As you know David there a quite a few CAMC unofficial FB groups (which some are quite entertaining), anyone can start up a private group on just about anything. Don't get why the C&CC are trying to achieve, free speech and all that. Is there something on the horizon perhaps?
JK
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This is the latest reply I got from the C&CC having questioned some of the things mentioned in their first reply.
"Good morning David,
Thank you for your email.
Regarding the forum requiring both the first and second names to access, this was just the format of the system and required this information in order for members to access and take part in use of the forum.
Unfortunately there is not a way for users to start their own conversations on our Facebook page, as it is not something that Facebook supports anymore. However, we do still actively encourage our members to interact with us and other campers, whether this be by director messager by posting comments or questions on the posts we publish. This will allow you to interact with the Club and other members.
There are also a number of other Facebook groups that are related to camping and other forums.
Kind Regards"
There is probably no point pursuing the issue anymore as clearly the C&CC have reached a decision which they are unwilling to go back on. It is clear that there are now no options, within the Club, for members to communicate between each other. Be interesting to see if any members get together to form their own Facebook Group, but as one does not seem to already exist I wonder what the likelihood is?
David
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