Same car different weight

dave smiffy
dave smiffy Forum Participant Posts: 7
edited April 2023 in Towcars & Towing #1

hi people

i tow with a Volkswagen touareg 2019 r line i did tow with a 2012 touareg sel which towed my bailey Porto twin axle at 76% which is brilliant never know i am towing so relaxing, my newer one 2019 r line is 40 kg lighter  and is a 86 % of the towing weight.  which is okay been towing since 2006 . i didn't think of checking the weight as same car ? just a word of warning . happy towing.

 dave  

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  • eribaMotters
    eribaMotters Club Member Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭
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    edited April 2023 #2

    Have they swapped anything major, eg did the previous car have a spare wheel and the new one does not?

     

    Colin

  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,134 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2023 #3

    In 7 years many things will have changed - engine parts, gearbox components, exhaust, wheels and tyres etc etc. There’s no way I would expect the cars to be identical.

  • dave smiffy
    dave smiffy Forum Participant Posts: 7
    edited April 2023 #4

    hi colin

     my old one didn't have a spare wheel just the pump and foam canister, my new one has has a spare wheel. as tin wheel says its how its built now plastic floor etc.  but two tanks diesel and ad blue tank .  its amazing what they do. i was just warning other people. as 40 kg is a lot of weight

    Dave

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited April 2023 #5

    The 2012 and 2019 Touareg are totally different cars - which I would think is pretty obvious visually. Under the skin they are totally different for a variety of reasons. And 40kg difference on a 2tonne car cannot possibly change the tow weight ratio by 10%…… sorry if this sounds blunt but think about the numbers, if 40kg = 10% weight ratio difference it would suggest the car weighs around 400kg…..  I am not sure what warning is being given here. 

  • Lutz
    Lutz Forum Participant Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2023 #6

    40kg is hardly going to make any difference in the way in which the outfit handles and it's only going to change the weight ratio by a negligible amount - certainly by not as much as 10%. If the figure was taken out of a brochure, owner's handbook or a database, chances are that the difference between the published figure and the car's actual kerbweight is going to be greater than 40kg anyway. Not really worth a warning to others.

    It's far more important to check the towload limits. Changes in specification and design can have a really appreciable effect on the towload limit. In the extreme, a later version of the same car but with a different drive train may not even be approved to tow at all, even though it's basically the same model.

  • Paul Richards
    Paul Richards Forum Participant Posts: 23
    edited May 2023 #7

    Someones maths needs checking if you think 40kgs will make that much difference to the ratio. 

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