Motorcaravan Guide
What a good idea this is, published in Club Magazine April, 2023, page 14.
Excellent idea if you can get this to work. But all I get after several attempts at trying to copy an extremely complicated web address is either page not available or asking for a subscription to a site I do not wish to employ on a time limited subscription
Would it be so unusual to publish a truncated form of address instead of
https://paperturn-view.com/ncc/ncc-motorcaravan-guide?pid=MzA305376&p=7&v=1.1
Try this:- "ncc-motorcaravan-guide" to give the PDF download.
Having spent a tedious hour correcting this I'm hoping that this link can be published as a live hyperlink for you click and collect. Bon chance amis!
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Cushie
I think what you suggest is easy enough to do on this forum because you can hide the length of the URL behind a shortened version of the link. I think that is more difficult when working from a printed magazine if I have understood you correctly? But thanks for the heads up and I have used your link to find the file in question which I will look at later.
David
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Thanks for posting this link Cushie - it should be very helpful to newcomers to the MH fraternity and also a good reminder to old hands.
Not sure about the statement on page 10 regarding needing a medical and eye test every two years after age 70. I renewed mine last year for a second time after age 70 and got a three year licence.
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One or two odd bits in it, like don’t carry food, buy when you get to your destination and don’t carry ANY fresh water. I’m all for putting money into the local economy but you probably don’t want to check in and then take your van straight out to shop, and not many sites are close to shops. Surely you either take first meal with you or shop on the journey. Also we would have tubs of pasta, rice etc and a few tins in the van anyway. And as for fresh water, surely that depends on payload, fuel economy etc. And again, as a motorhomes, you are likely to want water on the journey, flushing the loo, making a cuppa.
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Cushie
I thought it would be useful to make your thread "sticky" so it remains at the top of the listing. We often get new motorhomers asking for advice so it could be a useful read for them.
David
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I hope I’m in the right place for some advice? at present we’re caravanning but going to have to change how we holiday. I’m thinking a small(ish) motor home, don’t want to tow a car behind it, and would go out each day in it, how practical would that be? We’re not fit enough to erect a driveway awning and for a couple of years have been incapable of putting up a caravan awning. I realise there will be height limitations for where we’ll be able to park and shop etc, it goes without saying we can’t ride bikes.
I really hope you can give us some practical advice.
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That’s exactly what we do and for the same reasons. Take a look at panel van conversions which, in my opinion, give you the best of both worlds in that they can be used like a caravan yet, mostly, are small enough to go out and about to do your sight seeing. They’re narrower than coachbuilt vans too. We found the 6m AutoSleeper Warwick Duo pretty much ideal. Any longer and you might have problems parking when out and any shorter might be cramped inside. There are loads of makes and models available with varying layouts. I’m sure you’ll find something to suit.
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That looks like a good option, but we really need something with 4 seat belts, two berth is fine but we help out with grandchildren sometimes during the school holidays and they live quite far away so need our own sleeping arrangements. What would you say would be the next ‘step up’?
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There are loads of 4 berth panel vans around at 6m. The ubiquitous Adria Twin has a front lounge with 4 seat belts and a double bed at the rear (this is transverse which might be an issue but longitudinal bed versions, within 6m are available) and a proper, modern pop top with another double.
this config also available from brands like Malibu (Carthago), Pilote, Rapido, Dreamer, Globecar and Hymer etc....note these are all European brands (they do proper beds) and will have decent storage under the beds accessible from the rear.
a uk type rear lounge (make up bed) with pop top would also fit the bill but storage (remember this will be for four) won't be in the same league.
good luck.
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It’s not so much a step up as looking at different layouts and there are loads of them. Look around and see what takes your fancy.
I think you’re saying you need 4 belted travelling seats but only 2 sleeping berths. It’s definitely possible. The Wildax Pulsar at only 5m fits that bill but is, inevitably, less spacious inside.
I think the best thing is to get yourself off to a few dealerships and check out what’s on their forecourts.
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Thanks yt for your input, we’ll only be sleeping 2 so don’t need a pop top, and will only need storage for 2, but seatbelts for 4 for trips out with grandchildren during the day. It’s a huge decision and I had hoped to decide on layout etc and then find one to hire for a week or so to be sure.
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I think you can still find PVC's with four seat belts but if you want that in a 6 metre van you will only get a transverse double bed, rather than two longer beds which can be used as singles. You would probably need to go for a 6.4 metre van conversion to get long bunks, if it is an absolute that you need four seat belts. Having changed from a caravan, after thirty years, to ten years ago changing to a motorhome we went for, initially, one that more or less replicated our caravan in terms of space. Very comfortable it was to but not so convenient for taking off site. We compensated for this by using sites either within walking distance of things or close to public transport. As we have aged so has our mobility! Probably a good idea to get to a large dealer which will have a variety of vans/motorhomes on display so you get a feel for the different layouts and sizes.
David
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David, it's done in 6m by most of the main Euro players...
here's the Malibu version...
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Does anyone have an Autotrail F60, and can tell me how long the bench seats are and how low the double bed will drop down.
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Answer is the same as TW gave you on 10/11/23. Go to an Autotrail dealer (there are 20) and check if it is suitable for you.
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As the F60 only sleeps 2, I assume you have the choice of using either the drop down double or the 4’8” long bunks made into a double. If correct, this suggests the drop down bed drops low onto the fixed bunks.
I can’t see where the 3rd and 4th belted seats are🤷🏻♂️. Suggest again you view one to sort out the queries👍🏻
Edit: cross posted with Euro.
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Sorry I’m repeating myself, I don’t know how to look back an my earlier questions, I’ll try to find one to physically look at, thanks for your help
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You have earlier posts in this thread but you can check your previous activity via your profile - the easiest way is to tap your avatar.
You really do need to check out MHs 'in the flesh' to get an idea of suitability.
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Thanks very much TW managed to look back at my earlier questions and appreciate your help. We recently went to a camper van and motorhome show and while there was a huge selection we’ve been unable to find a hire vehicle in a layout that interests us.
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You’re welcome 🙂
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There are currently 14 used and new Auto-Trail F-line F60s on Autotrader. Likely one of those advertised will be near you.
Not all of them have seatbelts for 4. Some have straight single berth settees either side. Others have the familiar L shaped dinette giving scope for the two additional belted seats.
They look to be a really tidy MoHo. Only major downside is the circa extra 20cm of width over mine that I would need to get used to. However do not underestimate also the need for garage space on a van. I started out thinking there was far too much on mine but I now appreciate the ability to securely store my folding Ebike unfolded and ready to role! The F60 looks to have a reasonable size garage but do not underestimate the amount of junk you will end up taking with you - outdoor chairs and table, maybe a barbecue, etc, etc.
Given the width you really do need at least to get a test drive if you are unable to hire.
Chris
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The section regarding speed limits in the document that is linked in this post is incorrect in a couple of places.
The body type shown on the V5 registration document does not affect speed limits. Quote from the DVLA website.......'The body type does not affect the insurance category of the vehicle, or have any effect on speed limits or other legislative requirements. It is only used for establishing vehicle appearance and identification.'
The speed limits quoted also mention an unladen weight of '3500kg or less.'
This should be 3050kg not 3500kg.
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
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