Mazda cx60
Has anyone else been looking at the Mazda cx60?
Mazda have always tried to do something different, think MX5 and rotary engined rx7, once again Mazda have bucked the trend and launched a 3.3 litre straight six diesel mild hybrid. It caught my attention because of the towing limit 2500kgs, the quoted mpg and the reviews look good on paper.
I’d be interested to know if anyone has test driven one. Should on paper make a great long distance tow car I’d have thought. My daughter has driven a cx5 for the last five years, it’s been very reliable and well put together. Just a little small and light for my needs.
I can’t see me buying an EV or a petrol hybrid given the short range and the mpg once the battery dies,, this could be just what I’ve been waiting for.
once one comes to a dealership by me I think I’ll take a test drive.
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test reply please ignore,
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Hi flatcoat
yes, I’m still around. Don’t post frequently but occasionally browse the content on here. I must say I’m usually put off from using any tech supplied by the Club as in my opinion it’s just hard work and unreliable. Perhaps it’s just me but as an example what’s happened to the font size suddenly!
Anyway back to the topic in hand. I’m afraid I can’t update you much.
I visited the Mazda dealer who had a cx60 in the showroom and very nice it was too.. Didn’t road test as when I looked at it I noticed the rear seats didn’t fold flat and a must for me is loading two full size e-bikes in the “boot”. I’d also spoken to an owner I spotted returning his van to where we store ours and whilst he was generally positive about towing characteristics the car did look very low at the rear with the caravan attached. I worried about ours as it’s a large twin axle. His was the petrol hybrid and he said he’d prefer the diesel but being a Mazda employee he had no choice.
I currently tow with a discovery 4 which is brilliant but it’s now getting to 10y old and I’m worried about reliability now and cost of maintenance. Eg is some thing big and expensive going to let go soon.
On the other hand we’ve changed how we holiday now. Being recently retired we’ve been doing long haul early in the year to shorten the British winter and using the van less and for shorter uk breaks, whereas before we’d holiday for 3 plus weeks in the summer in France. So, is it worth a large outlay on a towing vehicle which will sit on the drive mainly ( we have a hatchback for daily duties) v keeping the disco going?it’s all very complicated now or perhaps I’m just old. It used to be simple - diesel for torque and mpg instead of a large petrol engine and just worry about getting the correct kerbweight. Now there are a myriad of permutations.
I know chocolate trees will be smacking his forehead at me, this old dinosaur, running two cars both ICE, driving a 3 litre diesel weighting 2plus tons, 4WD, towing a large twin axle, flying long haul, etc but you do what you enjoy / can afford. I live in hope that things will become simpler and the way forward become clearer.
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No head smacking. Just jealous at the retired status!!! My MiL was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and given 3 to 4 months. Brings a new perspective. Enjoy what you can while you can is the top of the list of things to do. We did the Maldives in January - trip of a lifetime, but would go back in a heartbeat.
Of course - EVs are still great, and will be towing with ours not too far from home and the MiL / FiL this summer ;-)
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Denton Like you considering a hybrid. My neighbour has a new Toyota Rav4 which looks ideal. Having looked at this an a few other hybrids one thing to avoid in my opinion for us towers is a small fuel tank. Once the engine needs to top the battery up the Total range is reduced, from what Ive seen a 2.5l petrol hybrid tanks can vary between 45-70l depending on manufacturer. are there any Hybrid towers that can reveal real life towing mpg?
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I tow a 1550kg van with a RAV PHEV. Typical towing mpg is in the high 20’s. Tank size is 8 gallons plus an alleged 2 gallon reserve. I do a 2 minute splash and dash every 150 miles or so when towing. Just towed to southern Germany and back (600+ miles each way) after long towing trips to Cornwall and Inverness earlier in the year. In practice after years of diesels with usually 13/14 gallon tanks it has little impact on journeys.
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We are on our second PHEV initially a 2020 2.4 litre Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, reading all the hype on the internet we were panicking a little (a lot) but it could not have been easier, unfortunately the Outlander being old technology the ICE unit could get a bit vocal under load if the battery was empty, but nothing dramatic, you soon learn to use the charge button.
In 2023 we changed to a Suzuki Across PHEV (a rebadge Toyota RAV4 PHEV) new technology, truly amazing it pulls like a steam train, no depleted battery, no vocal ICE even on very steep inclines towing.
Towing our Swift Conqueror 480 1500kg down to the New Forest 180 miles starting with a full battery charge approximately 26 litre, the Across has a 55 litre fuel tank.
Running around the New Forest not charging using Hybrid mode around 50mpg, managed to get a charge at Tesco approximately 10kWh approximately mid 30mpg including the charge.
Towing with a depleted battery we are seeing around 30mpg, forget all this hype on the internet, these modern hybrid/PHEV are more than capable.
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Just in the midst of changing my car (ŠKODA Kodiaq) and have test driven a CX60 with the 3.3 254bhp diesel engine. It has 550 nm of torque and therefore has plenty of power for towing. Lots of kit and I’m sure will suit a lot of people. However I’ve been very pleased with my Kodiaq and found the latest model a nicer place to be than the Mazda. I’ve therefore ordered a 2.0 193bhp Kodiak similar to my existing car. Not as much torque as the Mazda at 400 nm but pulls my current 1500kgs van with ease. I think if I had a heavier twin axle van I’d give the Mazda more consideration.
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